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Team Meat: 3DS eShop has a 2GB limit for DD. [Misquoted, not true]
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Team Meat hates Sony because they didn't think SMB would perform well enough or something
AceBandage
Banned
That was MS, actually.
frankie_baby
Member
Glad to hear the 3ds is so liberal with size limits, I still don't understand why the Wiiware limit was so Low surely they could've increased it to 64mb without any problems, in fact I to this date have no idea why half of the Wii's internal storage was reserved to the os
Are we sure they weren't talking about XBLA?
I wish there was some way to put another card, or to copy its data to a computer hard drive to free space, or to erase and redownload stuff when needed.
You've basically said this twice and given no reason as to why it's a bad idea. If you have money for games, you certainly have money for SD cards.
Edit: Isn't Team Meat huge Nintendo fans?
SteveWinwood
Member
Especially since the cards are so much cheaper as well.
AceBandage
Banned
The problem with WiiWare was two fold.
1. The horribly low amount of internal storage that was not properly expandable by SD cards.
2. The fact that, for some reason, WiiWare games had to be able to run right off the RAM.
What?
Why should everyone be held back by people who won't buy bigger cards?
The angles you people take on issues sometimes fucking astound me.
Exclusivity agreement with MS. PSN turned them down when they shopped it to them initially IIRC.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I really should invest in a 32 GB card. Considering probably 98% or more of the games on the PSN for the PSP are less than 2 GB (including full retail games), we could really see some amazing games on the eShop if developers decide to take advantage of this.
Nintendo should allow full retail games on the eShop. That would really speak volumes about their online efforts. I know they've mentioned it before, and I would be ecstatic if it goes through.
Nintendo should allow full retail games on the eShop. That would really speak volumes about their online efforts. I know they've mentioned it before, and I would be ecstatic if it goes through.
AceBandage
Banned
It'll probably happen, if Iwata is to be believed.
ScreenSplitter
Member
I would imagine so, considering their two titles are pretty much hardcore Mario + Zelda. (Simplifying I'm sure, but the influences are definitely there)
frankie_baby
Member
Doesn't change the fact that 40mb was arbitrary and could easily have been increased to 64mb without causing any problems
Classic Nintendo fans; Edmund McMillen has had some choice words to say about Nintendo in recent years, if I remember correctly.
But AceBandage just said it was technical. Wouldn't you have to change the entire OS to get WiiWare games to not run off the RAM? That was stupid on their part, but it doesn't seem like something you could easily change.
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Nice news anyway, no biggie. XD
Plus the unit also has internalmemory, but that's for Nintendo DSi Ware games, camera pictures and some other files.
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Yep, the Wii per se couldn't stream content from the SD Card directly, so whatever you had stored in there, to use it directly in the games that allowed it (Guitar Hero, Rock Band) it created a copy in the internal memory before using it.
Was apparently the reason Black Ops while having the hooks for DLC, never got any DLC. Since teh maps eahc took over 40MB and they could save it on the SD, but couldn't use it from there.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Retail games being released as DD titles would be crazy good. Flipping on the 3DS and playing through SM3DL? Yes please. (That's if it's ~2GB, ha)
Anyway, they should release SMB on eshop.
Anyway, they should release SMB on eshop.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Agreed. Pilotwings would make so much sense as a $7 downloadable title, for example.
They just have to get the pricing right. I like my boxes and cartridges. I need incentive to give em up.
300+MB for Mario 3D Land
600+MB for Mario Kart 7
EDIT:
Actual sizes...
Super Mario Land: 307.43 MB
Mario Kart 7: 656.53 MB
EDIT 2:
And a few others...
Cave Story 3D: 466.15 MB
Dead or Alive Dimensions: 96.2 MB**
(**some places report it as over 100MB; so it seems to vary or something)
lordfroakie
Member
Stop being butthurt and accept it! inb4samerespsonse
Hot Coldman
Banned
AcceptableGhost
Member
The fact that you cannot get retail games digitally on the 3DS is ludicrous. Of course I guess I really wouldn't want to DL anything until Nintendo gets a proper account system anyway though.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
No way we see 2GB games anytime soon. Full Games rarely approach that.
Good to hear, and I'm glad they've seemed to learn from their mistakes in this regard. Now if only we could get a revamped eShop that isn't an incomprehensible mess (random categories, search "Wayforward" and only one game comes up despite them having threeish titles on the shop, etc)...
test_account
XP-39C²
Do you have any source to this? Just curious to read more about it. I can see some reason if it is to run the games of a SD card, but the ability to do so wasnt added before later on. I dont see any reason to run it from RAM when it initially was designed to run from the internal memory.
Granted, there aren't very many 4GB games right now, but I would imagine that when retail games get offered on the eShop, they'll circumvent the limit on the virtue of being retail games, similar to how MS treats XBLA and GoD.
AceBandage
Banned
All except RE:R.
It might have just been for games read of the SD card, now that I think about it.
Though, making the limit less than the RAM in the system would also make sense if you wanted the games to run easily.
Dunno, though.
And MGS3D baring some crazy compression.
MGS3D is also on a 4GB card, and I believe it's already been said that Kingdom Hearts will ship on one as well.
I doubt they're going to be the norm for at least another year or so, but the seeds have already been planted.
Why would you type it in search? You can just select them from the publisher drop-down box and voila...
Is that a new feature? I haven't used the shop since early January due to the Wifi setup at my college campus conflicting with the 3DS.
No.
There's a ton of Nintendo references in Super Meat Boy, so I'm gonna say yes.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. Gamecube discs had a max capacity of 1.4GB.
Theoretically, couldn't Nintendo totally release Wind Waker on eShop
Theoretically, couldn't Nintendo totally release Wind Waker on eShop
AceBandage
Banned
Eh, not straight emulation.
They could do a remake of it for the system, but it's highly unlikely.
Theoretically, yes. But I think they've already said that they're reserving Gamecube downloads for the Wii U.
I would pay $100.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Google "Connectify". You'll thank me later. For restrictive college internet, it's a must.
Don't you play with my heart
You could easily download XBLA titles without an actual Live sub. Just connect your 360 via Lan for one time.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
You think everyone hates everyone, don't you?
Anyways, fantastic news. I'm not expecting a game to actually be 2GB in size, but its nice to have more than 40mb.
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