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The "follow your dreams" mantra -- outdated?
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ZackieChan
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What does any of this have to do with following your dreams?
What did you do for 2 years?
Oh, and here's a juicy tidbit for you with the caveat I don't hold this against Team17 and there were many good people there.
When things weren't going well with the ports, and I said and explained why it would take months to fix, the response from one person was:
"Don't listen to Andy, he doesn't know anything about games"
If would be funny if it wasn't so hurtful, and just gets in the way of creating something good. I've got one about EA as well if you want it.
When things weren't going well with the ports, and I said and explained why it would take months to fix, the response from one person was:
"Don't listen to Andy, he doesn't know anything about games"
If would be funny if it wasn't so hurtful, and just gets in the way of creating something good. I've got one about EA as well if you want it.
smileyforall220
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Everyone has dreams. Less people have goals. Even less people have researched their goals and planned it into achievable short and long term goals. And the least amount of people, the ones who tell you to follow your dreams are the ones who do all the above and are not afraid to put in the hard work and struggle it takes to achieve their goals.
I wanted to be a cinematographer when I was 16 and 12 years later I'm doing it, and I'm middle class to lower middle class depending on who you ask. Had to choose between living on my own and working a day job, or living at home and saving up for camera equipment. Chose the latter.
Of course, a lot of people wouldn't even have that option, but I think a more accurate statement is that following your dreams is for people who are able to acquire the means to make it happen.
NaughtyCalibur
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Hmm... incoming former dreamer turned cynic:
In a better (not even perfect) world, the mantra would serve to empower and embolden individuals to reject conformity and be, well, individuals.
However, the developed world is designed more like a casino, wherein you're told to play big to win from the moment you enter, with supporting testimonials from the 1% convincing you it can be done relatively easily without offering any advice beyond "never give up," and rarely letting you in on the actual rules & conditions, nor what's truly at stake if you put your all into it and fail, especially in America.
Ex: Nobody wants to get through to little Timmy on the horrors of not having health coverage when he grows up, especially if he plans to have a family. Even some of the busiest artist friends I know have shit for health coverage, so it kinda sucks the glamour out of it when they have to figure out how to afford their kids' medication, some of which costs upwards of $800-1200 a bottle (yes, this is real American life). And that's just one factor.
And, hell, if the economic system itself didn't have enough deterents in place you'll be pleased to realize that we essentially live in a "fuck you, got mine" society, where very few are interested in lifting up their fellow dream chasers in fear that they'll undermine or overshadow their own success. These people would sooner give Kanye $30 if he randomly asked on Twitter for no clear cause than $10 to help a "good friend's" genuinely amazing startup company or music album and say it's because 'Kanye gets shit done,' or something.
I still do video production any chance I get, and am even co-hosting a local live show that's recently secured some corporate sponsorship, but I still work my day job and am prepared to do so for a good portion of my life because I now know realisticly how hard it is to even get to a point where one can live comfortably in a studio apartment in bumfuck Ohio on consistent, professional level work alone.
I may go back to school so I can try to teach the stuff I love as a way to fuse the day job with my passions. But I am turning 30 this year and have come to peace with knowing I'll never be well off with this, let alone rich.
I'd just like to have my own garage by the time I'm 40. That's my new dream now. I'll update you guys in a decade.
In a better (not even perfect) world, the mantra would serve to empower and embolden individuals to reject conformity and be, well, individuals.
However, the developed world is designed more like a casino, wherein you're told to play big to win from the moment you enter, with supporting testimonials from the 1% convincing you it can be done relatively easily without offering any advice beyond "never give up," and rarely letting you in on the actual rules & conditions, nor what's truly at stake if you put your all into it and fail, especially in America.
Ex: Nobody wants to get through to little Timmy on the horrors of not having health coverage when he grows up, especially if he plans to have a family. Even some of the busiest artist friends I know have shit for health coverage, so it kinda sucks the glamour out of it when they have to figure out how to afford their kids' medication, some of which costs upwards of $800-1200 a bottle (yes, this is real American life). And that's just one factor.
And, hell, if the economic system itself didn't have enough deterents in place you'll be pleased to realize that we essentially live in a "fuck you, got mine" society, where very few are interested in lifting up their fellow dream chasers in fear that they'll undermine or overshadow their own success. These people would sooner give Kanye $30 if he randomly asked on Twitter for no clear cause than $10 to help a "good friend's" genuinely amazing startup company or music album and say it's because 'Kanye gets shit done,' or something.
I still do video production any chance I get, and am even co-hosting a local live show that's recently secured some corporate sponsorship, but I still work my day job and am prepared to do so for a good portion of my life because I now know realisticly how hard it is to even get to a point where one can live comfortably in a studio apartment in bumfuck Ohio on consistent, professional level work alone.
I may go back to school so I can try to teach the stuff I love as a way to fuse the day job with my passions. But I am turning 30 this year and have come to peace with knowing I'll never be well off with this, let alone rich.
I'd just like to have my own garage by the time I'm 40. That's my new dream now. I'll update you guys in a decade.
You're 29 and you think it's over? I don't know what your dream is, but if you want to be well off you should aim higher than the job title of video producer.
I attempted to teach myself how to code. Went to all the meetups I could and I networked my ass off. And I tried to teach myself full time through all that. After all that I learned ok I'm probably good enough for an entry level job and enough devs legitimately thought I was ready. But I never made it through the interview process because I drew blanks on all the CS theory stuff or I never got calls back because of no degree. Hence why I'm going back to school or pursuing a trade. I saw the reality of the market since supposedly there's a million jobs and technically it is possible to get a tech job without a degree. But so far it seems I need to be an utter all star otherwise I should be in school and I'm not about to drop $19k for a bootcamp. And I had all the passion and enthusiasm for it and people saw that. But I rarely if ever got an opportunity. Of course now I'm being told I'm just giving up and I didn't work hard enough. And hearing shit like never give up on your dream, take out the loans, go to school do whatever it takes.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Define rich. You're posting on GAF which means you're better off than most people on this planet. I don't think you're in survival mode seeing as you're here.
you can see it in this thread
people told to keep their expectations in check, to not have too outlandish a dream
the phrase is empty, devoid of meaning
Napoleonthechimp
Member
Brought to mind this xkcd from a few days ago:
I've never been a fan of the chase your dreams mantra. There's no shame in just trying to survive and enjoying the day-to-day as best you can. But some people need to aspire for greatness, even it's unrealistic. There's no one-size-fits-all path to life.
That is a gamble based on nothing but chance. It doesn't apply to the idea of consistent hard work. Many people who don't achieve anything are that way because they gave up in the face of hardship, or didn't adapt their approach to whatever obstacle came their way.
But again... if you want to look for reasons to give up then you'll find them.
Yeah so this has nothing at all to do with following your dreams, seems more aimed at the white collar ladder? I don't even know.
Then use a different phrase? The point of it is attempting to do what you want to do for a living.
well yeh, that's the point...but we're discussing this specific phrase
Napoleonthechimp
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I don't know how you got "work your way up the corporate ladder" from that phrase. If you're doing that and hate what you're doing, or it isn't leading to where you want to be, then that's not following your dreams.
It is your dream, not someone else's, that you're following.
But as I said earlier the phrase should be followed with "follow your dreams... with consistent hard work and adaptability in the face of obstacles or hardships". If you don't have a goal then you can be easily swept away with all the BS that comes at you in life.
we're talking about the job market right? and the dream is a goal, right? you have to make sacrifices to get to that target, certain things you have to do reach it
exactly, that's bootstraps in a nutshell and the "try hard and you will succeed" that is synonymous with using that phrase in labour context
SmackDaddy
Member
i think this is a little extreme. classes exist and persist for a reason dude. and class upwards mobility is extremely difficult in this country.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
Following your dreams doesn't have to refer to the job market. It just means have a goal that you aspire to and keep moving towards it rather than get distracted by other things.
It really isn't that complex.
It is like getting in a car with the intent of reaching your destination. Maybe you'll hit traffic, or the car will break down. If you're determined to get where you're going then you'll find a different route or find a different mode of transportation.
Trying hard is not a guarantee of success. You've got to adapt your approach in the face of hardship. Think of it like finding a boulder in the middle of a road... perhaps finding a different route may be a better idea than trying to ram your way through it.
Exactly. You have to have an end goal, consistency, and a deep understanding of how to reach that goal with a constant desire to improve. Having the goal by itself and hoping for the best isn't enough, and if you rely on other people you've already lost. Everyone needs help but you can't ever expect anything from anyone, not even friends.
That's all true but what's also more common than some might think is people just looking for reasons outside of themselves to justify a lack of ambition.
except in this thread it absolutely does
Blue Ninja
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It's good to have dreams, just be realistic about them. My young dreamy side still wants to end up writing for a succesful video game developer, even though that's never going to happen and at this point I'll be happy to finish my first novel in the next few years. Dreams give you something to strive towards in the long term, some hope. That's never a bad thing.
The problem is that some people want their dreams realized right away. One of my best friends my age has had three jobs already in the span of a year, resigning every time because "it's not what he really wants". Which is fine reasoning, except that what he wants is to start his own business, with people working under him, and the freedom to choose which projects to pursue. Stuff you need money and connections for. But he wants that stuff now, and it's killing him that he can't do it, while everyone else is worried about him.
The problem is that some people want their dreams realized right away. One of my best friends my age has had three jobs already in the span of a year, resigning every time because "it's not what he really wants". Which is fine reasoning, except that what he wants is to start his own business, with people working under him, and the freedom to choose which projects to pursue. Stuff you need money and connections for. But he wants that stuff now, and it's killing him that he can't do it, while everyone else is worried about him.
Napoleonthechimp
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If you want to find a reason to not do something then you'll find it. If that is the life you want then that is your choice and no one else's.
That's what it boils down to for me too. If you weren't born lucky you will have to make sacrifices to get what's most important to you. You want kids and a wife in your 20's or 30's, you'll probably have to settle for that accounting job instead of the dream job. If you want the dream job, you might have to put aside everything else while you chip away at getting to the big break. You can't get it all at once, and everyone is born with their own unique deck of cards.
So Good They Can't Ignore You <--- Recommend this book for practical advice on how to avoid being sucked into the "mantra" and instead focus on developing a specific set of skills and self-image / presentation that will allow you to accomplish a discrete set of goals.
The problem with "following one's dreams" isn't the idea of having dreams - but being too abstract and flippant about what your "dreams" are. I dream of writing well-received fiction and developing cool software and video games, and I'm trying to set discrete goals to be on my way.
But I'm also aware of the immense privilege I have of even considering these options.
The problem with "following one's dreams" isn't the idea of having dreams - but being too abstract and flippant about what your "dreams" are. I dream of writing well-received fiction and developing cool software and video games, and I'm trying to set discrete goals to be on my way.
But I'm also aware of the immense privilege I have of even considering these options.
IrishNinja
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saw Chris Rock live recently & he said we should stop telling kids that they could do anything...and maybe tell them "you can do whatever you're good at, if they're hiring for it."
somber, but fair
somber, but fair
SillyEskimo
Member
People's ability to achieve their goals and "dreams" correlate directly to their level of ambition. The who/what/why/how is all secondary to personal ambition. If you have given up at achieving your dreams, that's 100% on you. You have failed. As long as a person keeps trying, they never fail.
none of it is a guarantee of success, and the onus is always on that person with the dream to navigate all these ever-increasing challenges like it's some test for them, which is completely unfair
outside of the artists their dreams don't happen in a bubble so you're always going to have to rely on people
lifetime of regret waiting to happen, why didn't I try harder? why didn't I do that at that one time? why didn't I talk better? look better? how many times does one have to "pick themselves up, dust themselves off" before they are allowed to forget the illustrious dream in your opinion?
My "dream" since I was a teenager was always to lead an interesting life. It's pretty vague and it's debatable if I have accomplished it, or am accomplishing it, but I am giving it a fair shot. I think if your dream is money or fame or "success" oriented than you maybe will have difficulty achieving it, if you have a more internal kind of goal then we can all follow our dreams and even reach them.
I'm 32 and American and I've done everything from taxi driving in Australia to documentary photography in Nepal and now globetrotting in the fashion industry and based in China. There have been many times when I've been low on funds, not materially succesful, directionless with regards to career or life path, but it's always been interesting so I'd say I've more or less been able to successfully follow my dreams of having interesting life experiences.
One lesson I've learned from life is to say yes to (almost) everything. Opportunities do come, but you need to put yourself in the position to seize them. A lot of people are cynical and feel that the world owes them, as evidenced by so many threads on GAF. OP says your dreams can be reached based on nepotism or whatever unique circumstance you were born into (yes I know as a middle class white American male I have certain opportunities not available to others)... but OP is wrong because his dreams/measure of success are based on making money or some other external sense of value or achievement. Of course money is important and needed to survive, but money or important job titles shouldn't be your dream. IMO Your dreams should be realistic and based on internal goals/achievements, because in society not everyone can be rich or a CEO or run a successful company. We can't all be the boss. Reach for a goal that satisfies you internally.
I'm 32 and American and I've done everything from taxi driving in Australia to documentary photography in Nepal and now globetrotting in the fashion industry and based in China. There have been many times when I've been low on funds, not materially succesful, directionless with regards to career or life path, but it's always been interesting so I'd say I've more or less been able to successfully follow my dreams of having interesting life experiences.
One lesson I've learned from life is to say yes to (almost) everything. Opportunities do come, but you need to put yourself in the position to seize them. A lot of people are cynical and feel that the world owes them, as evidenced by so many threads on GAF. OP says your dreams can be reached based on nepotism or whatever unique circumstance you were born into (yes I know as a middle class white American male I have certain opportunities not available to others)... but OP is wrong because his dreams/measure of success are based on making money or some other external sense of value or achievement. Of course money is important and needed to survive, but money or important job titles shouldn't be your dream. IMO Your dreams should be realistic and based on internal goals/achievements, because in society not everyone can be rich or a CEO or run a successful company. We can't all be the boss. Reach for a goal that satisfies you internally.
NaughtyCalibur
Member
Not over at all, I've just become used to lowering my expectations accordingly. I'll still put in the work, but never again to the point of sacrificing relationships and my health to get to any level of success. Unfortunately that's what it typically takes to make it past the front door in most dream fields these days.
When you have people out here sleeping in cars several nights a week away from their family to drive for a company as shitty as Uber, or Twitch streamers literally dying from exhaustion to keep their fickle viewers entertained, you can't help but question the sustainability of the dream itself.
The same rather inocuous, inspiring dream mantra that is tossed around to kids since first grade is ultimately leading to some pretty messed up lives. I'm not pointing the finger at any one cause, because as I've said this is multi-faceted (economics; human psychology; etc), but I do think a different approach should be taken in regards to motivational messages like this. Not just in how they're delivered, but also how they're processed.
I just don't think today's world works well for average dreamers, and that's a shitty feeling. It never has, one could argue, but there was a time where it seemed you could dream big, fail or bow out, and still live a pretty good life after "settling down." This does not appear to be true anymore.
You really start to feel hopeless when you make 40k a year and still struggle financially with a roommate living in a two bedroom duplex in a run down Cleveland neighborhood. If this is the life a "good job" nets me, just imagine what struggling artists and entrepreneurs without a mom and dad safety net or trust fund must be going through.
A lot of them kill themselves or don't live a single day without considering it because their life is devoid of any semblance of meaning through their 9-5s and they don't even have affordable healthcare or decent living to fall back on anymore.
This is perhaps beside the topic itself, but I personally think we have to make the world a better place for dreamers before we keep shoveling that shit. That's my dream, if I have one anymore.
Not the person you were replying to but just because someone can access Gaf doesn't mean they are doing well or that they have the financial means to achieve their dreams.
I live on disability and I cannot currently work to obtain extra income. I live on 14.5k a year which is less than I'd have if I could work even 30 hours a week for minimum wage in Ontario. My computer is old, my cellphone is old, I typically wear worn clothes more than a decade old. Before disability I was on the much less generous Ontario works and I needed to use a foodbank to get enough food each month. I am fortunate to rent from generous friends who have given me a nice deal on internet included with my rent on the room I rent.
I get by, I have a few luxuries in my life I've saved for and fuck anyone who thinks I'm living the high life because I'm not starving in a 3rd world country. Poverty is poverty regardless of the location, it's not an oppression olympics where we get ranked by who suffers the most.
There are things I want to do with my life, small and large and most of them I can't even begin to afford. There are lessons I can't take, workshops I can't attend and degrees I'll never be able to earn. The internet, books and a can do attitude can only take you so far unless and until you start lowering your expectations.
The poor can dream all we want but no one should shame us for being cynical of the fact that we're so very very unlikely to even get a chance to accomplish things regardless of how much time and effort we'd be willing to put forth.
John Caboose
Member
There's been a thousand books on how to be an entrepreneur and they all say different things. Do you want to know what the biggest common factor among all successful entrepreneurs is? They started out with a boatload of cash.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
FYI: I was fired from Staples at 29 and at 30 was talking with Anjelica Huston in the lunch line on the set of a feature film directed by Melissa Joan Hart (Sabrina the Teenage Witch). Why? Because I spent YEARS undergoing a process of continual self-improvement through a process of trial and error. I then sat down and built my own little business based on nothing but a £2,000 loan given to me by The Prince's Trust (a UK based charity that helps long-term unemployed people under 30 start their own businesses).
Why? Because in my local region there aren't any film making facilities. So I figure why not build them myself? So that is what I started to do. And now I've combined resources with others (people I met because I went out and networked) and will build my own high-end services that will enable to work on a consistent basis on great movies and TV shows. I'm talking the kind people bitch about on neogaf.
Is that much harder than relocating to a big city (which I can't afford) and working my way up the traditional career ladder? You bet. However, that is the path open to me. Mostly because others are too lazy and afraid to take it themselves.
By all means say that I could only do it because of that £2,000 loan. But keep in mind that I could only get that because I was long-term unemployed and poor as shit. However, all of that would have failed without all of the time and effort I put in before that.
Why? Because in my local region there aren't any film making facilities. So I figure why not build them myself? So that is what I started to do. And now I've combined resources with others (people I met because I went out and networked) and will build my own high-end services that will enable to work on a consistent basis on great movies and TV shows. I'm talking the kind people bitch about on neogaf.
Is that much harder than relocating to a big city (which I can't afford) and working my way up the traditional career ladder? You bet. However, that is the path open to me. Mostly because others are too lazy and afraid to take it themselves.
By all means say that I could only do it because of that £2,000 loan. But keep in mind that I could only get that because I was long-term unemployed and poor as shit. However, all of that would have failed without all of the time and effort I put in before that.
You know what will cause the biggest regret? Knowing that you didn't try at all or knowing that you tried but that you didn't spend every bit of time and energy you had at your disposal to make it happen. But only you really know what you're capable of so you and you alone will have to live with it.
This is a very good post. Internal dreams are going to give you more satisfaction and you can be more pragmatic in terms of how you want to achieve them.
There can a be defeatist and deterministic attitude on this website that can be quite frustrating at times.
ZackieChan
Member
Of course. You can't expect the world to change for you. You either find a way to make your dream fit into reality or find a different dream.
You do web dev? You could freelance and do you own business. No client will ask where you went to school. They'll just want to know that you can get the work done. Are you single? Fly over to Thailand and live on peanuts until you have enough clients to make a decent living.
Yeah only problem is I'm not confident in doing freelance work lol. My design skills are shit and I have massive issues trying to build anything from scratch. If this makes any sense, I'm confident I'd be good at contributing to a team and helping build an app. But if I'm asked to build something on my own I'll look like a complete idiot. Hence why I'd prefer more of a learn on the job route like trades do or probably why I should go back to school so I have base to work with. This is also why I always had issues of having a killer portfolio full of websites and apps. I'm not exactly capable of that atm. But instead I've been doing a decent job of understanding all the concepts required to build those apps and how to use them. Again I'm just not great at utilizing those on my own to build some super cool app that will get me hired. Like it took me awhile to even feel comfortable being useful on hackathon teams even when my team has won. But slowly I became more useful with code review and code refactoring. But I still wasn't great at adding features when I was told to since I usually went blank when I had no idea how to even get started.
Adam_Roman
Member
There's thousands of people who you think didn't "make it", but I guarantee that at least a quarter of those people did and you just can't comprehend their goals as being dream goals. I remember asking my dad once why he and my mom never go on vacation and he said "Because we have no interest in going to other places because we like it here" and I couldn't fathom that. I couldn't comprehend not wanting to see as much as you can and experiencing as much as possible in life, but that's something they're more than happy with not doing.
There are people who live to make things and be remembered by others, but there are others who would rather not be remembered and just enjoy the moments they've been given on earth. I feel like most people follow their dreams in small ways that we can't tell. I have enough friends who have taken paths I didn't expect, but then I realized it was because I never bothered to talk to them about dreams or aspirations. When I did, it became more clear why they were taking steps that they took.
There are people who live to make things and be remembered by others, but there are others who would rather not be remembered and just enjoy the moments they've been given on earth. I feel like most people follow their dreams in small ways that we can't tell. I have enough friends who have taken paths I didn't expect, but then I realized it was because I never bothered to talk to them about dreams or aspirations. When I did, it became more clear why they were taking steps that they took.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
You'll hate yourself a lot more if you find yourself on your deathbed having given up on your supposedly impossible dreams years ago.
If you try and try and try again, and still never succeed, you can at least hate the world instead, at the end.
If you try and try and try again, and still never succeed, you can at least hate the world instead, at the end.
This is my dream too. I actually did finish my first novel, and am working on my second now. I would absolutely love to see them published at all, and the desire to see them become the story of a video game - even an indie style game like the recent Cosmic Star Heroine - is still somewhere in the recesses of my heart (and maybe even my mind, as well). At the risk of sounding too self-deprecating, I doubt they will ever see the light of day or are worthy reads, but I set out to write my own story, and it's there. The whole damn thing. Nobody can say I didn't try. And it feels good, man. Keep writing your story.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
I hate the phrase because I never had dreams. Not feasible ones. I wanted to be a robot, but that's not happening. Nowadays the closest thing to a dream I have is to live in somewhere like Maine with a basement full of guns, but since I live in the UK with barely any income that doesn't seem achievable either.
Nowadays I just play videogames and eat unhealthy foods while I wait for death.
People who are motivational speakers, who say "follow your dreams" or that one cunt who says "DO WHAT YOU CAN'T" (I bet someone's linked that fucking video at least once in this thread) make me want to do harm, to myself or to them.
Nowadays I just play videogames and eat unhealthy foods while I wait for death.
People who are motivational speakers, who say "follow your dreams" or that one cunt who says "DO WHAT YOU CAN'T" (I bet someone's linked that fucking video at least once in this thread) make me want to do harm, to myself or to them.
cityhunter
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oxrock
Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
I think the bottom line is that you need a carrot on a stick to keep you going in life, so you keep following that dream. Without that dream there's little motivation to keep moving forward, right? You gotta have something to keep you going or you're dead inside going through the motions until one day you crack and bring a gun to work or something crazy. That's how I see it anyway.
lol, can you come up with something more substantial than your esoteric bullcrap-boulder story? not trying to be mean, but that "boulder in your way, just walk around it! *thumbs up*" is the same kind of shit like telling a depressed person to just be more cheerful.
"follow your dreams" is such a vague statement, it means everything and nothing. let's say a gaffer wants to compete in bodybuilding and trains real hard. it's a dream that's achievable. he gets in an accident and ends up in a wheelchair. now, how is he going to circumvent that boulder? or was that dream not follow-worthy?
I'm assuming you just wanted an anecdote for each speaker but this is fine? The person left a secure future to strike out on her own. Yes, she had a windfall and professional connections but shit still could have gone south on her and if her dream was to have her own agency, she got it.
Obviously people with inherited wealth can fuck off with talking about being rich.
I tried to ignore this mantra, but I've never enjoyed the jobs I've had and it's taken its toll mentally. Having a dream has made my life more fulfilling and myself more interesting regardless the final outcome. When I settled I just found myself so empty, but not everyone is the same. I hate dreading work every single day
SirJackDaniels
Member
A lot of haters here. All the nay-sayers of follow your dreams directly discredit me & my family.
30 years ago we were piss poor. Immigrant family with nothing in a new country. Dad divorced, single mum with 4 kids.
From where we were with nothing, we made the local equivalent of the forbes top list a few years back. All of us worked ffing hard and dedicated and motivated to better our situation. We followed our dreams to get out of a shitty situation. Its extremely hard but people saying to follow your dreams does not work i wholeheartedly disagree.
Our journey took approx 25 years. I have been working for 25 of my 34 years on this planet in some form. We didnt get there overnight but we made things better every day/week/year step by step. You need to be focused on what you want, what you need to get there, make a plan, be disciplined and work your ass off.
It isnt for the weak and i agree some are priviliged to be born in richness. We didnt and its insulting to me to my core individual that people say that "follow your dreams" mantra is outdated. There is always a way to better your life whatever the situation.
30 years ago we were piss poor. Immigrant family with nothing in a new country. Dad divorced, single mum with 4 kids.
From where we were with nothing, we made the local equivalent of the forbes top list a few years back. All of us worked ffing hard and dedicated and motivated to better our situation. We followed our dreams to get out of a shitty situation. Its extremely hard but people saying to follow your dreams does not work i wholeheartedly disagree.
Our journey took approx 25 years. I have been working for 25 of my 34 years on this planet in some form. We didnt get there overnight but we made things better every day/week/year step by step. You need to be focused on what you want, what you need to get there, make a plan, be disciplined and work your ass off.
It isnt for the weak and i agree some are priviliged to be born in richness. We didnt and its insulting to me to my core individual that people say that "follow your dreams" mantra is outdated. There is always a way to better your life whatever the situation.
Lord Frieza
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I'm going to follow my dreams, fight me
Napoleonthechimp
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Cool. Let's say I was unemployed for the majority of my 20s, then at the age of 29 I was fired from Staples after a few months. In the year after that I worked on a feature film, as a runner on the X Factor (where I got to see Simon Cowell), on two high-profile corporate films (where I got to meet gold medal winning British Olympians), and then most recently a horror film shot in Wales, UK starring Anjelica Huston and directed by Melissa Joan Hart (both people I grew up watching).
I got to that point because I was too poor to follow the traditional media production career path and instead went and built myself up as a freelancer.
How's that? Is that a good enough real example of overcoming obstacles? Or are you going to come out with some more pitiful dream crushing excuses?
But with regards to your bodybuilding wheelchair BS: http://wheelchairbodybuilding.com/
Roar at them.
what was the boulder?
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