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The Last Story is the most successful game in XSEED history
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I think a bald space marine RPG could be excellent at best and hilarious at worst.
Change the swords to guns in TLS and you're well on your way to Mass Effect!
But then it's no longer a JRPG.
What if it's made in Japan?
fabricated backlash
Member
So going in with an educated estimation of:
a) customer demand
b) potential for sales beyond that demand
c) costs/reward
is a recipe for success? Who knew.
a) customer demand
b) potential for sales beyond that demand
c) costs/reward
is a recipe for success? Who knew.
Oh lets not get into this.
Then it's a game made in Japan.
That's not what I meant, and you know it.
Sorry, you're right. This is not the subject of the thread.
Delusibeta
Banned
Obsidian & Relic presents Warhammer 40k: Deathwatch.
Agreed. I'd even go as far to say that I hated the actual game.
LoftyTheMetroid
Member
What I meant was, you're suggesting this isn't representative of why the Wii could have potentially been a good platform for third parties by outlining variables that would have negatively affected a "regular" effort made by a publisher that had to actually fund the development of the game.
But, if you want to go that route, you should also factor in the variables that would have positively affected a product's viability on the Wii, or recognize variables that would normally have hindered a title and that The Last Story was a success in spite of them.
And I'm not saying that these variables are absolutely equal and cancel each other out or anything, but I'm saying that, just as you are tired of the "Why didn't 3rd parties support the Wii more strongly earlier?" narrative, I'm equally frustrated with the claims that "Only Nintendo games can succeed on Nintendo platforms," or that "There were no opportunities for success on the Wii".
The Last Story's success doesn't translate directly to, "All third party games would have sold gangbusters on the Wii," but I don't think it should be downplayed either.
As a GameStop employee I am quite literally astounded this has been deemed that much of a success. I personally don't think I have sold a single copy of the game, and the copies we have in store are from the same batch we got at launch.
And dammit I don't like paying a lot of money for games that I won't play in a long time due to my backlog, but I really want that sexy case which is going to become increasingly hard to find and expensive.
And dammit I don't like paying a lot of money for games that I won't play in a long time due to my backlog, but I really want that sexy case which is going to become increasingly hard to find and expensive.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I'm just glad Xseed has something to be happy about, they always bring me the games I want that no one else will, and they do a damn good job of it.
I guess there's a Destructoid post coming, hopefully there will be answer, I'm really curious.
Well, can't argue that.
I know demidar was being silly, but what if there was a (serious) Japanese developed RPG that shared a similar aesthetic to the "bald space marine" stereotype? Makes me wonder anyway.
I can't wait for the requisite bath scene!
chertipros
Member
How much did this game sell?
Apparently about ~50k in the states.
chaosblade
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TreasureHunterG
Banned
This shows how Reggie is the wrong person to decide what Nintendo should localize or not.
I'm pretty sure NoA would deem 50k somewhat of a failure.
On one hand, that is a low number for bigger publishers, but on the other they are supporting a fanbase that is quite hungry. Will this pay dividends? We won't really know.
Sammy Samusu
Member
TLS is not that boring.
Mm, not going to agree with you since I don't like TLS very much.
Spieler Eins
Member
Good for niche publishers, but I didn't really like the game. In fact, the linearity and ,,drab'' artstyle some weren't really fond of were things I was looking forward to, but then it had several problems elsewhere I really didn't see coming.
I think it generally profited more from the hype in EU/US. NoE was apparently surprised that their first shipment of Xeno was sold out almost immediately.
I think it generally profited more from the hype in EU/US. NoE was apparently surprised that their first shipment of Xeno was sold out almost immediately.
thechristoph
Sir!
Wow. I still need to pick up a copy. Hell, I haven't even started Xenoblade, and I'm only a couple dungeons into Skyward Sword. I'm a bad RPG fan these past couple years...
People are saying it's a failure? Selling 50k when you don't have to pay for localization must have given them a pretty hefty profit.
KojiKnight
Member
Good to hear for xSeed. Since Atlus has been getting further and further outside of the "niche" market, it's nice to see others stepping in the last couple years.
Sadly 50k is still a pitiful number for a great looking RPG from Sakaguchi*.
*This comment shouldn't be taken as me blaming the console or saying that this is not a success for Xseed, just lamenting the circumstances and the fate of Mistwalker because I really loved Lost Oddysey and wanted Sagakuchi to keep making these big budget RPG (no matter where).
*This comment shouldn't be taken as me blaming the console or saying that this is not a success for Xseed, just lamenting the circumstances and the fate of Mistwalker because I really loved Lost Oddysey and wanted Sagakuchi to keep making these big budget RPG (no matter where).
Sammy Samusu
Member
I'm not a big fan either, but still better than ME (I only played the first one).
TLS is similar to NMH, I enjoyed the game's setting and characters, but gameplay-wise there's nothing really interesting.
JordanLMiller
Member
BEST NEWS EVER. I love you based xseed! Keep bringing me those awesome japanese games everyone else is afraid to.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
First of all, "GAF" didn't say anything, and no one is forcing you to take part in discussion here.
Second of all, no one has claimed XSEED is lying
Third of all, no one has claimed the game was a failure for XSEED
Fourth of all, if you do not believe that the game sold (approximately) 50k units at US retail, how many units do you think it has sold and what basis do you have for thinking so? John Harker was, presumably based on his record here, posting NPD figures.
Nobody is saying it's a failure, we've said that each company has different metrics and expenses. 50k is very successful considering how XSEED's other games sell, and probably moreso in this case since they didn't have to translate it themselves.
You should also quote the person/people you're talking about instead of attributing it to some nebulous "GAF."
Who said they were lying? They publish niche games and this game was one they didn't even have to do all the localization work for. That's all people have said especially in light of those who think that Nintendo passing on this was some kind of huge mistake, maybe they should've gave these games a chance but they wouldn't have lost out on anything all that big by passing, it's not even on the same level as Sony passing on Demon's Souls.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Very well deserved for Xseed.
You missed that Fire Emblem 3DS got announced for next year at around E3?
denshuu
Member
I got it for $8 on Amazon
Just now?
You sure you didn't just buy a box with an artbook in it? Because it's $50 on amazon. Even more used.
Schlachtor
Banned
..... =(
A time machine to travel back to 1999.
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