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The Official Apple WWDC 2007 Thread
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Dragona Akehi
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The only disappointing part of this conference was a lack of Leopard release date.
Phoenix, is Finder finally cocoa?
Phoenix, is Finder finally cocoa?
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Terrell said:
As much as I <3 my mac, I haven't been keeping up.
As for the specific day, a woman can dream, no?
infiniteloop
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
Probably as close to october 31st as they can get.
Phoenix
Member
Hitokage said:
And to be even more precise, WebKit is open source - its actually the foundation of ALL of Nokia's mobile browsers. To anyone who thinks that Safari is proprietary - they are complete delusional.
http://webkit.org/
I quickly uninstalled it.imastalker co.
Banned
leopard is such a beautiful marvel.
Zombie James
Banned
iapetus said:This is not my experience. Here's what it makes of Slashdot out of the box on my machine:
WTF is with that font?
Here's how it looks on my system:
SaotomeMtl
Member
Still waiting for some updated iMacs. I want to order now, but know that they'll announce upgraded versions any time now.
SolidSquirrel
Member
Some thoughts:
-Transparent Menu Bar is a great idea, but ugly in it's current state. I'm sure it'll be very configurable, but as somebody mentioned earlier, a transparent+reflections type thing sounds awesome.
-The new Finder looks awesome. I'm surprised they're modeling all of their new apps around iTunes, but it makes sense. Previewing features look awesome and coverflow may actually be useful since docs/pictures/slideshows and all that show visual previews now. Hopefully it won't have all the quirks that the current Finder has.
-I don't like the table-style dock. I hope you can change that.
-Somebody mentioned Spotlight and Dashboard would work faster? Spotlight in particular better be faster, my Mac Mini Core Solo really struggles when I search w/ spotlight.
Everything else is meh. Stacks looks nice, but is forgettable; I don't use desktop icons anyway. iChat features are gimmicky. With Expose (by far my favorite feature switching from XP to OS X), Spaces is a little redundant and I wouldn't want it adding clutter to my small dock.
-Transparent Menu Bar is a great idea, but ugly in it's current state. I'm sure it'll be very configurable, but as somebody mentioned earlier, a transparent+reflections type thing sounds awesome.
-The new Finder looks awesome. I'm surprised they're modeling all of their new apps around iTunes, but it makes sense. Previewing features look awesome and coverflow may actually be useful since docs/pictures/slideshows and all that show visual previews now. Hopefully it won't have all the quirks that the current Finder has.
-I don't like the table-style dock. I hope you can change that.
-Somebody mentioned Spotlight and Dashboard would work faster? Spotlight in particular better be faster, my Mac Mini Core Solo really struggles when I search w/ spotlight.
Everything else is meh. Stacks looks nice, but is forgettable; I don't use desktop icons anyway. iChat features are gimmicky. With Expose (by far my favorite feature switching from XP to OS X), Spaces is a little redundant and I wouldn't want it adding clutter to my small dock.
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Leopard looks nice, but I don't think I'll shell out the cash for it. I'll just wait until it's time to spring for a MacBook Pro. I do wonder how Leopard would run on my 1.5 PowerBook . . .
A consistent look for the interface and the new Finder are both welcome (long-overdue) additions. Stacks may or may not be worthwhile. I suspect I'll get at least some use out Spaces, anyway. Time Machine is still the most practical thing in there by a wide margin. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't find Coverflow to be useful at all. All in all, a pretty tame batch of secret features.
Why the hell aren't Widgets uncoupled from Dashboard yet, particularly in light of Spaces? And that Movies Widget . . . yeah, it's called "Sherlock". That Widget-maker thingamajig is pretty cool, though.
A consistent look for the interface and the new Finder are both welcome (long-overdue) additions. Stacks may or may not be worthwhile. I suspect I'll get at least some use out Spaces, anyway. Time Machine is still the most practical thing in there by a wide margin. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't find Coverflow to be useful at all. All in all, a pretty tame batch of secret features.
Why the hell aren't Widgets uncoupled from Dashboard yet, particularly in light of Spaces? And that Movies Widget . . . yeah, it's called "Sherlock". That Widget-maker thingamajig is pretty cool, though.
perryfarrell
Member
imastalker co. said:
Dude, you take fanboy-ism to a whole other level. It's like you joined a cult or sumtin.
imastalker co.
Banned
what are you talking about? it's not as if im wrong. look at everything Leopard offers. it's better than Tiger in every way, and that was already much better than the competition.perryfarrell said:
here, maybe this will convince you that im definitely in a cult or something...
No ZFS?!
I was surprised he didn't mention it, but thought that might be a usual 'Steve Jobs pissed off at Sun bloke for speaking too soon' thing.
It might still be in there, just announced further down the line. Any reports from the version developers got their hands on yesterday?
I was surprised he didn't mention it, but thought that might be a usual 'Steve Jobs pissed off at Sun bloke for speaking too soon' thing.
It might still be in there, just announced further down the line. Any reports from the version developers got their hands on yesterday?
infiniteloop
Member
Grifter said:
Safari, Mail and iTunes (to name a few) all have different styles to them.
imastalker co.
Banned
it works for me, and let me just say, it was a hell of a show.
Leopard must be what was used to design the universe.
Leopard must be what was used to design the universe.
Honestly I thought this was a rather boring keynote.
Even though Leopard looks SO HOT, the 10 features thing was kinda weak. New desktop, new finder, Time Machine, Quick Look were all awesome stuff, but everything else was either shown last year or was kinda of boringly presented (Core Animations sounds sweet, but his little demo didn't really show how it would benefit the end user).
The two "One more thing..." segments were the two worst ones ever since I've been watching Steve's keynotes for a few years now.
But whatever. Leopard is gonna be so ace when it's released, plus the next Apple show should be pretty awesome with new Macs and iPods.
Even though Leopard looks SO HOT, the 10 features thing was kinda weak. New desktop, new finder, Time Machine, Quick Look were all awesome stuff, but everything else was either shown last year or was kinda of boringly presented (Core Animations sounds sweet, but his little demo didn't really show how it would benefit the end user).
The two "One more thing..." segments were the two worst ones ever since I've been watching Steve's keynotes for a few years now.
But whatever. Leopard is gonna be so ace when it's released, plus the next Apple show should be pretty awesome with new Macs and iPods.
SolidSquirrel
Member
Is that desktop the default now? I must say, I like Aqua blue desktops a lot more.
There is a reason ZFS was not mentioned:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525
Wow. Safari 3 on the Mac is insane. Fastest browser I've used without a doubt. Not only does it render pages fast, but the actual program feels so snappy. Safari 2 had the tendency to lag a bit and the beach ball would come up every now and then, but not 3. If this is an indication of what all the core OS programs will run like under Leopard, I can't wait. That's always been my one problem with OS X, it always felt a little laggy compared to Windows.
imastalker co.
Banned
their loss.Nash said:
Senor Silky
Member
imastalker co. said:
StrikerObi
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Spaces doesn't need to be in your dock to be running. It's probably like Dashboard. You can yank the dashboard icon right out of your dock and it continues to run without occupying space in the dock. That said, I doubt I'll use Spaces also. If I don't want an app cluttering my screen I just close it or hide it. And since the apps don't output sound if they are in an inactive space, there's no benefit to moving iTunes to a different Space just to get it out of the way while I work.
The demo Steve showed has him running at least 8 apps at the same time, one of which is World of Warcraft. What's the point? If I'm going to use an app so infrequently that I hide it in a different space, I may as well just quit it and free up system resources.