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This will likely use the same sensor as the D600, and my feeling is that this will come in below that pricewise. This is meant to undermine the X100, not the Leica X2.
BlueTsunami
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If anything the Sony FF compact signifies a big change in where a FF sensor is placed. It may be priced like some exotic big screen OLED but next year im sure we'll see the prices for newer products come down to earth.
I love that it's Sony that's doing this though. I'm also interested in the design of that Zeiss lens. The modern SLR design is a reference lens for the format.
I love that it's Sony that's doing this though. I'm also interested in the design of that Zeiss lens. The modern SLR design is a reference lens for the format.
Assuming these leaked photos of RX1 and A99 are real. Allow me to point out a few Sony strategy problems:
1) Can't commit to either EVF.
2) Can't commit to APS on NEX. Introducing a new lines of possible NEX lens when the APSC NEX lineup is basically barren.
3) Major change to the hotshoe
4) IMO a FF NEX body with EVF would have make much more sense than a FF non interchangeable rangefinder. A FF NEX body would have been a satisfying conclusion to the suspension novel that is the NEX lineup. Add this RX1 is basically introducing more questions then fullfilling answers.
IMO this is not a right time to invest in any NEX lens.
1) Can't commit to either EVF.
2) Can't commit to APS on NEX. Introducing a new lines of possible NEX lens when the APSC NEX lineup is basically barren.
3) Major change to the hotshoe
4) IMO a FF NEX body with EVF would have make much more sense than a FF non interchangeable rangefinder. A FF NEX body would have been a satisfying conclusion to the suspension novel that is the NEX lineup. Add this RX1 is basically introducing more questions then fullfilling answers.
IMO this is not a right time to invest in any NEX lens.
This thing is going to be insane in low light.
But why would you expect an OVF in a new Sony camera?
Yep, they're clearly in a transitional phase right now.
But why would you expect an OVF in a new Sony camera?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I totally agree with you. I'm definitely expecting $2,00-$2,500. But I don't think it'd be entirely out of the realm of possibility for this to come in at $1500 or so; making it $1200 during its first good sale or on the gently-used second-hand market.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Me, too. I love that Sony can still go balls-to-the-wall crazy with a great new product when they actually really try. Plus, things like this are the only things that will light a fire under Canon/Nikon's ass.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
This could end up being a near perfect street photography at night camera. Which is what I'm always looking for.
EDIT: Sorry, thought I edited and not double-posted.
EDIT: Sorry, thought I edited and not double-posted.
Camera companies have always had the technology, really, to make smaller full frame cameras. The reason Companies like Canon and Nikon don't do that IMHO is because it would interfere with their product road map and longer term strategy.
Olympus with the OM-D and now Sony with this camera, don't have the same restrictions. Canon and Nikon are the biggest companies and the most wanted cameras. They know that very well.
But the smaller guys? They are far more ready to push the envelope than everyone else.
Olympus with the OM-D and now Sony with this camera, don't have the same restrictions. Canon and Nikon are the biggest companies and the most wanted cameras. They know that very well.
But the smaller guys? They are far more ready to push the envelope than everyone else.
Because they can.
And it's not like they won't release a FF NEX given they already have the sensor. Maybe more complicated due to NEX lenses compatibility.
The X100 was a big hit for Fuji.
There's also the problem of protecting their Alpha and Nex lines, at least for the time being. However, I think this product makes it clear that their days are numbered.
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Because they aren't prepared to produce a system of lenses for a mirrorless FF mount yet. Fuji weren't ready for interchangeability with the X100 nor Konica with the Hexar AF. Great interchangeable-lens cameras followed both of those.
The rumors say a full-frame NEX will debut next year.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Slayer-33
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Always spend more on your lens than body brah.
Slayer-33
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I just haven't seen a lens cost that much, I'm a total noob ;P kinda shocking to me lol.
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Ah, the SonyAlphaRumors admin says the RX1 will be just a bit less than $3K. I was just a wee bit overoptimistic.
Some final pictures of the NEX-6 surfaced too:
Looks nicer than the preproduction pics that were floating around.
Some final pictures of the NEX-6 surfaced too:
Looks nicer than the preproduction pics that were floating around.
BlueTsunami
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I agree, and it makes sense when you consider their camcorders. If a FF NEX was released you'd have to think a portion of the consumers who would buy it may have paid more for a dedicated camcorder if they didn't have the choice.
Forsete
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Awesome stuff. 
I love the crazy stuff they are pulling right now.
Now, get krazy with the NEX lenses. I am itching for a fast zoom with OSS.
Edit: Le sigh. If Sony insists on raping current Alpha owners with that stupid ass ISO-shoe why the heck doesn't the A99 come with a built in flash? I hope the adapter is in the package at least (it wont be).
I love the crazy stuff they are pulling right now.
Now, get krazy with the NEX lenses. I am itching for a fast zoom with OSS.
Edit: Le sigh. If Sony insists on raping current Alpha owners with that stupid ass ISO-shoe why the heck doesn't the A99 come with a built in flash? I hope the adapter is in the package at least (it wont be).
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
$3K, huh? Welp, I was way off! Lol. I figured $2600 at the max, and was definitely hoping for under $2K.
Guess that means whatever the X-Pro 1's successor is, is what I'll have my eye on, still. Any new rumors on the X-Pro 2? It seemed people were thinking we might see one at Photokina; but the murmurs have stopped in the last few months.
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Also, I'm gonna post this in the B/S/T forum; but figured I'd just drop it in here if anyone is interested. I'm looking to sell my D90, 18-105 VR Kit Lens, and 55-200VR. Everything looks and works great/like-new - the body has less than 1,000 clicks. I'm probably just gonna end up eBay-ing it this week; but figured I'd throw it out here. I'm looking to get $700 for the bundle/shipped via PP Gift.
Guess that means whatever the X-Pro 1's successor is, is what I'll have my eye on, still. Any new rumors on the X-Pro 2? It seemed people were thinking we might see one at Photokina; but the murmurs have stopped in the last few months.
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Also, I'm gonna post this in the B/S/T forum; but figured I'd just drop it in here if anyone is interested. I'm looking to sell my D90, 18-105 VR Kit Lens, and 55-200VR. Everything looks and works great/like-new - the body has less than 1,000 clicks. I'm probably just gonna end up eBay-ing it this week; but figured I'd throw it out here. I'm looking to get $700 for the bundle/shipped via PP Gift.
I really like rx100's design - it is a perfect hybrid of retro and modern. More like the modern leicas than the fujis which are more retro.
The rx1 with FF and fixed lens could be the ultimate street camera if they had added a bloody evf. A most likely 2k - 2.5k cam withoutit?! Even they nex 6 has one!
Seriously sony you just put a bloody full frame on what looks like a point and shoot body. Who are they aiming for?
The rx1 with FF and fixed lens could be the ultimate street camera if they had added a bloody evf. A most likely 2k - 2.5k cam withoutit?! Even they nex 6 has one!
Seriously sony you just put a bloody full frame on what looks like a point and shoot body. Who are they aiming for?
Technosteve
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i want to buy a lecia m9 quality camera for not so much =(
Valkyr Junkie
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We're assuming no EVF from the top pic?
There's no way you won't at least be able to attach an external if so, but that still blows.
There's no way you won't at least be able to attach an external if so, but that still blows.
Valkyr Junkie
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Post-launch software support has been pretty shitty, but they've said its something they're working to improve on.
Guys.
I'm very much interested in buying a macro lens lately. I want to shoot "macro" video, get up close and personal with ants and little critters.
So, I've been wondering would it be worth investing in this hunk of L glass lovin'?
From all the reviews and stuff I've read, this is optically similar to the half-the-price 100mm macro non-L. But my only decision to go for the L is due to IS, which makes a HUGE difference in video at least (one of the reason I'm not gonna buy the 24-70mm "brick" even its damned fine quality).
I haven't done macro so don't know how little hand movements/shakes translate to recording video (with the bad as it is rolling shutter problems). I definitely want to save money and get the non IS 100mm macro, but it is useless to me if the video I produce looks like shit due to not having IS (compounded with rolling shutter).
For example, on the youtubes, I found this video from the non-IS 100mil macro.
It is horribly shakey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx0jghPe-yo&feature=g-hist
So what say you GAF? should I save some cash and go non-IS or go IS with the L glass?
I'm very much interested in buying a macro lens lately. I want to shoot "macro" video, get up close and personal with ants and little critters.
So, I've been wondering would it be worth investing in this hunk of L glass lovin'?
From all the reviews and stuff I've read, this is optically similar to the half-the-price 100mm macro non-L. But my only decision to go for the L is due to IS, which makes a HUGE difference in video at least (one of the reason I'm not gonna buy the 24-70mm "brick" even its damned fine quality).
I haven't done macro so don't know how little hand movements/shakes translate to recording video (with the bad as it is rolling shutter problems). I definitely want to save money and get the non IS 100mm macro, but it is useless to me if the video I produce looks like shit due to not having IS (compounded with rolling shutter).
For example, on the youtubes, I found this video from the non-IS 100mil macro.
It is horribly shakey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx0jghPe-yo&feature=g-hist
So what say you GAF? should I save some cash and go non-IS or go IS with the L glass?
BlueTsunami
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The lack of viewfinder is ver jarring but I believe the comparable Leica didn't either (the updated one has one I believe). I wonder if they have a new OLED EVF on deck that will be announced alongside it?
reggieandTFE
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Sony's tech seems great, but their lineup is going to be confusing as hell to non-camera gear geeks.
mclaren777
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I wasn't aware that people actually used that feature in cameras.
I was under the impression that most macro pictures/videos typically involve using a tripod.
I consider myself to be a camera geek and I'm fully confused by Sony's current lineup. The entire NEX line just looks like gibberish from my perspective.
Not actively, no. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be a nice feature to have access to.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
$2799, to be exact, according to alpharumors.
EEk. I mean; there's no arguing their assessment that a typical FF from Nikon or Canon + a 35 mm f2 would cost more than this combo. But you give up so many other features by going with this Sony. But, on the flip side of that, this thing is uber portable; and there's nothing on the market like it.
I don't see this selling well at all. But, I'm still extremely pleased Sony is releasing it. I definitely WANT one; but it'll never happen, lol.
$2799, to be exact, according to alpharumors.
EEk. I mean; there's no arguing their assessment that a typical FF from Nikon or Canon + a 35 mm f2 would cost more than this combo. But you give up so many other features by going with this Sony. But, on the flip side of that, this thing is uber portable; and there's nothing on the market like it.
I don't see this selling well at all. But, I'm still extremely pleased Sony is releasing it. I definitely WANT one; but it'll never happen, lol.
It will likely be a super low volume product meant as a stop gap until they can really get the FF ILC thing going.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Are we all still expecting that to come around in 2013?
It's a cine (film / video) lens, and that price is on the low-end of the spectrum.
Valkyr Junkie
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Yes, a FF NEX is still slated for 2013.
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