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~ The Official Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions thread ~
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Revengeance
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I've never been able to figure this out: what system governs how JP are given to jobs other than the one currently equipped? (ie: your knight gains some points in squire in a battle).
I've looked around, and have yet to find an adequate explanation elsewhere.
I've looked around, and have yet to find an adequate explanation elsewhere.
BlueTsunami
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ethelred said:
Eh, I already played it so many times but I can see where its objectionable. Leveling up a Mime seems like a pain in the ass though since you can equip the Calcs EXP UP skill. I've personally never payed any attention to leveling up as a certain class in my last play throughs.
BlueTsunami
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Holy shit, I never knew this! GameFAQs FTW!
Appearently you can cast Firaja and all other top tier magics on Black Mages (and each skill on a respective magic class) and they will learn the skill? Thats a massive 900 Points that I only need to use once on each skill and pass it along my team. Pretty cool.
Appearently you can cast Firaja and all other top tier magics on Black Mages (and each skill on a respective magic class) and they will learn the skill? Thats a massive 900 Points that I only need to use once on each skill and pass it along my team. Pretty cool.
Splash Wave
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BlueTsunami said:
What, what, whaaat?
Revengeance
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Aeana said:
Ahh, makes sense now. Thanks!
BlueTsunami
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Citizenship said:OW.MAI.GAWD
this is the BEST info I've read so far for the game. THANK.YOU.SO.MUCH
and you're mostly welcome, Sallokin!
I'm not sure if its some GFAQ NEWB thing but I got it off the message board. They stated it only works for top skills (usually ones that don't allow Calculator use, you can check this by looking at the description of the Spell).
So Time Mage it would be Hasteja, White Mage Curaja and supposedly all Summon Skills are learnable this way. You have to be the class with which the respective skill is being used, obviously. Huge time saver if true (if you want more than one person attaining Dark Knight)
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Beowulf is the best character in the game. His Drain does like 999 damage to the final boss. The ability to quickly turn ppl into frogs or chickens is also awesome for grinding purposes.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Citizenship said:Ok, I did Firaja on another Black Mage, he died and didn't learn the spell. I played another battle, did the Firaja again on him, he survived, but yet he didn't learn it :\
damn...
EDIT: give it more time Amir0x, you'll get used to it eventually.
You need to learn a certain Summoner skill for it to work. I don't remember the name.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
So...is sword duping still in this game or was it fixed?
BlueTsunami
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Dechaios said:
You need to Master both the Knight and Black Mage class (as in learn all of their abilities) and you need to have level 8 Dragoon, Geomancer, Ninja and Samurai also kill and crystalize (not sure if you need to collect them or just let them crystalize) 20 enemies
Sallokin beat me to the punch
and I guess I was fooled by GameFAQs
Unless you can't do this in Multiplayer mode or something...I have to test it for myself but I haven't learned any of those high skills yet...well, I do have Flare.
KyanMehwulfe
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I'm rather intrigued by his monster hunter archtype. As far as character themes or fantasy roles or jobs goes, I've always had a sweet tooth for fur trapping, hunters, rangers, and other wilderness specialists of sorts -- hence the poaching 'complete game' file theme I've referenced many times before -- so that Luso was designed as such catches my attention when he otherwise completely turns me off (I hate his visual appearance; utterly nonsensical and goofy).ethelred said:
So it's sort of sparked an interest in FFTA2 that wasn't there before, and a curiosity of his FFT archtype hints at a character theme or role in his actual story title. Or it's just a convenient excuse to give him FFT context and really means nothing else, but I suppose we'll see.
gamespot review:
http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/finalfantasytacticspsp/index.html
its very interesting. most reviews i have read say it as if the psx and psp versions are quite same regarding the..the..you know what.."runs away"
http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/finalfantasytacticspsp/index.html
8.0
its very interesting. most reviews i have read say it as if the psx and psp versions are quite same regarding the..the..you know what.."runs away"
MoxManiac said:
The worst part is when you have an ability that autotriggers whenever someone hits you. I put Regenerate on one of my guys, he was hit like 4 times in a row each time triggering the fucking slow ass piece of shit regen spell. I actually had to take off the ability it was so annoying.
Yeah, I don't think I'll be playing this anymore. Nice try, Squeenix, next time spend an extra ten bucks making a port that isn't worse than the original. One again, I swear off ports for a reason.
For the case in the PS version (I haven't tested it on the PSP version)
For the blue magic style learning. Its not all the time except for zodiac.
Also there's some things you might want to know before hand.
1. An enemy has to cast the spell. (Or a charmed spell caster (own))
2. You have the be the natural class of that spell. The caster does not need to be of the natural class. So an enemy lancer casting firaja on your wizard could result in your wizard knowing firaja.
3. Even if multi learn capable characters gets hit with a spell only one person can learn it at a time.
4. Obviously you have to survive.
5. Enemies can learn spells too. (Which is very important getting everyone to know zodiac).
Also for Plummel the damage formula is this.
damage = (1..9) * (PA + [PA / 2]). Its one of the most random attacks. The others are attacks dealing with flails and axes whose damage forula is (1..WP)*PA
Also the slowdown isn't too bad. I already beat it and it only took me like 2 days. 15 hours of gameplay time. Now I'm half working on a perfect file while doing some single class challenges.
For the blue magic style learning. Its not all the time except for zodiac.
Also there's some things you might want to know before hand.
1. An enemy has to cast the spell. (Or a charmed spell caster (own))
2. You have the be the natural class of that spell. The caster does not need to be of the natural class. So an enemy lancer casting firaja on your wizard could result in your wizard knowing firaja.
3. Even if multi learn capable characters gets hit with a spell only one person can learn it at a time.
4. Obviously you have to survive.
5. Enemies can learn spells too. (Which is very important getting everyone to know zodiac).
Also for Plummel the damage formula is this.
damage = (1..9) * (PA + [PA / 2]). Its one of the most random attacks. The others are attacks dealing with flails and axes whose damage forula is (1..WP)*PA
Also the slowdown isn't too bad. I already beat it and it only took me like 2 days. 15 hours of gameplay time. Now I'm half working on a perfect file while doing some single class challenges.
AgentOtaku
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Amir0x said:
wow
that bad huh?
Amir0x said:
Yeah even on the PS version I never used long length reaction skills. They just take way too long. I turn off all quotes/jp/exp at the start of the game.
Also why I hate the dancer class even though its one of the most effective class in the game. 3 dancer/2 mime = every enemy on the screen have 1 sp in 2 turns.
The translation is great, the CG cutscenes are pretty. But since 99% of the time you're in these battles with the god damn awful slowdown every five seconds, it is not enough to keep me going. I'm sure everyone's mileage will vary, as it clearly has varied, but for me I don't have time for this terrible port.
The Sphinx said:
Apparently, although YMMV. Most places had it listed as shipping today previously; Gamestop .com now lists it as back ordered (store locator not working yet), amazon.com has it in their general 4 to 6 week shipping estimate which is what they toss up when something is out but they don't have it. I say that it is out though because bradygames.com has it listed as in-stock and shipping. They also have a PDF chapter sample up and it looks pretty good.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Wait, is this added slowdown since the original PS1 release?
How the hell does that happen? The damn PSP can fully emulate the original game already at full speed!!
How the hell does that happen? The damn PSP can fully emulate the original game already at full speed!!
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
ethelred said:
The mind boggles. Sony already practically did the work for them!
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Well, almost every other spell you cast now has some slowdown. It's pretty minor and barely noticeable after a while. The only problem is that for every other spell you cast now, there is some minor slowdown so it all adds up. Not an ideal situation but it's hardly a reason not to own one of the greatest games of all time.
However, on the flipside, some of the slowdown from the PS1 version has been toned down as well. For example, the summons spells don't seem to cause as much slowdown now as it did back in the PS1 days.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Our luck is ill, that we should chance upon fiends such as these in the wood.
Segata Sanshiro
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I did post the Tose motto earlier in the thread.HomerSimpson-Man said:
Once again: "Tose: Ehhhn"
PepsimanVsJoe
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Ehhh dammit. I'll probably pass now.
It looks like they haven't learned a thing since Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth.
I'm not going to hate on better presentation but I'll be damned if the core game suffers.
Some random review off gamefaqs:
"What is not forgiveable is the fact that they didn't properly modify the graphics to fit the wide-screen format of the PSP. The end result is slightly blurred graphics on some portions of the game. Aside from that, there are a number of speed hiccups that should not have been there. The graphics in my opinion was very sloppily ported."
Then again the original versions are more expensive than the PSP remakes now so eh.
It looks like they haven't learned a thing since Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth.
I'm not going to hate on better presentation but I'll be damned if the core game suffers.
IcebergSlim3000 said:
Some random review off gamefaqs:
"What is not forgiveable is the fact that they didn't properly modify the graphics to fit the wide-screen format of the PSP. The end result is slightly blurred graphics on some portions of the game. Aside from that, there are a number of speed hiccups that should not have been there. The graphics in my opinion was very sloppily ported."
Then again the original versions are more expensive than the PSP remakes now so eh.
IcebergSlim3000
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PepsimanVsJoe said:
Whats wrong with Lenneth?
AgentOtaku
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nothing really...Lenneth port is great.....
if you running off a memstick =p
Splash Wave
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My plans for right now:
Ramza and my other primary warrior are both on their way to becoming Samurai. I have another working toward Ninja, and an alchemist turned White Mage. Lastly, I have a Black Mage going through the motions. Does this sound ok? I've only just started chapter 2.
Also, my Black Mage has a little over a 1000 JP to spend, should I skip to a top tier spell? (Firaja, Flare, etc) or should I go through the natural progression? Same question for my White Mage, but in terms of skipping Cura for Curaja.
Ramza and my other primary warrior are both on their way to becoming Samurai. I have another working toward Ninja, and an alchemist turned White Mage. Lastly, I have a Black Mage going through the motions. Does this sound ok? I've only just started chapter 2.
Also, my Black Mage has a little over a 1000 JP to spend, should I skip to a top tier spell? (Firaja, Flare, etc) or should I go through the natural progression? Same question for my White Mage, but in terms of skipping Cura for Curaja.
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DXMachina said:
If you plan on using the Calculator skill, I suggest Flare
So yeah, since this game was released I've already played through once to see the new cutscenes, and now I'm going through again to get everything/everyone. I can't put this game down, easily in my top 3 of games ever. I mean hell, I've bought 4 copies on ps1 alone, and I bought this game for the psp I don't even own. I ended up having to barrow someone elses and a memory stick so I can play it.
The ONLY problem I have with it is the slowdown, which of course has been mentioned, but I got over that. At first I thought the renaming of all the skills was going to be a problem, but it really wasn't after I finally got used to those. I just can't put it down, play it every chance I get. Although, once you know the good skill sets it's just a matter of grinding the JP out and rolling through the rest of the game
The ONLY problem I have with it is the slowdown, which of course has been mentioned, but I got over that. At first I thought the renaming of all the skills was going to be a problem, but it really wasn't after I finally got used to those
. I just can't put it down, play it every chance I get. Although, once you know the good skill sets it's just a matter of grinding the JP out and rolling through the rest of the game BlueTsunami
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TommyT said:
Thats one of my motivators and speaking of cutscenes, holy shit at the
Ovelia and Delita cutscene; where Delita is explaining (passionately) why hes doing what hes doing. The cutscenes are breathing life into these characters (more so than originally).
Splash Wave
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BlueTsunami said:
What makes a Calculator so good?
Aside from the calculator skills to rape through the game a fun build to play with is :
Class: Monk
Second: Guts ( Mettle )
Two-Swords
Counter
Move+2 ( or teleport )
It's really easy to get early on, just have one Knight in your party with speed/power break ( rend ) and get into a fight. Kill all but one monster then have everyone surround them. Rend the monster of speed/power and have Ramza just yell ( tailwind ) everyone to boost speed, then just use the skill accumulate ( focus ) until they have however many JP they need!
Class: Monk
Second: Guts ( Mettle )
Two-Swords
Counter
Move+2 ( or teleport )
It's really easy to get early on, just have one Knight in your party with speed/power break ( rend ) and get into a fight. Kill all but one monster then have everyone surround them. Rend the monster of speed/power and have Ramza just yell ( tailwind ) everyone to boost speed, then just use the skill accumulate ( focus ) until they have however many JP they need!