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I hope nintendo will let the wiimote be usable for the internet browser again tho.
I'm saying maybe not even that. Maybe in really rare cases, but there will always be regular controls as a back up.
But now you have the internet browser on a touch-screen tablet.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Well, Nintendo will probably give developers free reign as to what they use and not surprisingly, everyone will jump at the chance to use the new "toy".
Developers outright abandoning Remotes for FPSs would be really disappointing though as besides Mouse/Keyboard, nothing is better.
Aside from the circle pads the Controller is probably the one thing that was recieved really well by the gaming press last year. With the tweaks I am sure they will be even happier while the internet warriors will be like wow thats so big and looks so uncomfortable even though people with hands on say its great and not uncomfortable at all.
TheExplodingHead
Banned
Would still be cool to have the option of a pointer in shooters.
Then again, if it's heavily online-based you might not want to have a bunch of people owning the rest by using the Wiimote. So online-wise I don't know where to stand. Single player should allow for any and all options.
I know, but Pitchford sounded really enthusiastic about the controller, plus, they know that 100% of Wii U's (in theory) have the tablet, while who knows how many have the nunchuck.
Would be great for sending messages to friends. Easy to do when in-game, and no attachment required.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
The guys making Killer Freaks seemed to be fond of the new controller for their game as well.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Because the Wii Remote + nunchuck combo is amazing.
Give me the fucking option at least.
TheCongressman1
Member
Let's not forget that the Controller has a freaking sensor bar on it. If that's not Nintendo wanting to keep their options open, I don't know what is. Hopefully a good number of developers will give the option to use Wiimote+nunchuck.
I have no room to speak on this, but I wonder why any developer would wan to waste resources or time on developing nunchuck controls when the tablet must be used. It just seems like it would splinter the market. I don't want to be a debbie downer for the Wiimote fans, I'm just thinking that it's compatible so that Wii games are compatible with the system, as it adds another selling point.
I think it's great. But will they bother to support it? How many PS3 games support Move? Well I guess that's not a fair comparison...
-Pyromaniac-
Member
<--------- is so glad he prefers non-pointer controls.
I'm running out of complaints. Now it's all about games and stuff.
I'm running out of complaints. Now it's all about games and stuff.
Chopper Dave
Member
Is everybody forgetting local multiplayer? We are still wondering if the system can handle 2 Upads. How else is local multiplayer going to work without the wiimote? Even if WiiU could easily handle 4 Upads the controller's price tag would pose a huge problem. How could publishers expect a significant portion of WiiU owners to buy multiple Upads when they are obviously going to be far more costly than what we're used to paying for extra controllers? Skip local multiplayer altogether? 
Is everybody forgetting local multiplayer? We are still wondering if the system can handle 2 Upads. How else is local multiplayer going to work without the wiimote? Even if WiiU could easily handle 4 Upads the controller's price tag would pose a huge problem. How could publishers expect a significant portion of WiiU owners to buy multiple Upads when they are obviously going to be far more costly than what we're used to paying for extra controllers? Skip local multiplayer altogether?
Regular controllers.
TheCongressman1
Member
It might make sense, but the only reason you'd want it is if your friends all have a Upad of their own, because I don't think anyone would buy 4 only to use two of them without screens.
I'm hoping for a Dreamcast vs. Xbox/GC situation next gen. I'm keeping my expectations in check for the off chance that Nintendo underpowers their console this gen too. I'd honestly be fine with 360/PS3 level graphics for another gen. Anything more is a bonus to me.
Mithos
Member
Actually much better looking then the official one, I like it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Wait? Wii Remote is out?
Chopper Dave
Member
Classic controllers will need the wiimote. Would devs use the CC and not use the controller that needs to be hooked up to it?
When the controller that hooks up to it is designed completely different? Yes.
You make it sound like they couldn't do 'new' USB controllers, or wireless controllers.
My guess is that we get a Wavebird-esque controller with dual, clicable sticks and a few other modifications.
Metroid Prime 4 will require this controller to be played. It's the only way.
brochiller
Member
I'd like to see a Photoshop of the Wavebird controller in the style of the Wii U controller. Give it that color scheme with +/- buttons, the same analog sticks, and d-pad. I think it would look sexy.
How so? I can see myself scanning stuff with the touchscreen.
I'm guessing Congressman will probably do it, and it will definitely look awesome.
...that's what that black strip reminds me of.
Gettin back to your roots.
Because Metroid Prime and the Gamecube controller is an example of pure control perfection that will never be outmatched.
TheCongressman1
Member
...that's what that black strip reminds me of.
Nice! I didn't even think of it at the time, but you're right. I like my design it even more now.
That's a weird way to say Wiimote and Nunchuck.
Have you tried the MP Trilogy?
Nope.
Shadow Hog
Member
Actually, given things like that Shield Pose tech demo at E3 2011, I can see this working pretty well. You play with the controller, but when you want to scan something, you hold the controller up between you and the TV, and it'll automatically start scanning whatever you're aiming at.
Dreamwriter
Member
Not *totally* unprecedented. Think back to the days of yore, a simpler time when Nintendo sold FOUR Skus at once. The NES launched with the Control Deck (two controllers, Mario), Action Set (add a Light Gun and Duck Hunt), Power Set (add an exercise pad and Track Meet), and a Deluxe Set (replace the exercise pad/game with the robot and Gyromite).I just dont' think Nintendo cares about the multiple SKU thing, it's confusing to consumers who will potentially be confused enough as it is with what is different abpout the Wii U than the Wii
I would be surprised if Nintendo ever did the multiple SKU thang, it'd be unprecedented for them.
Personally, I want Nintendo to release two Skus: the normal one, and one that replaces the disc drive with a lot more storage (all digital, baby!)
TheCongressman1
Member
I'm on it. lol
Well, now that I think about it, are you guys expecting it to have GC layout for the buttons, or Wii U layout? I don't see them going back to the GC style.
Google some of the Project Cafe mock-ups or even the Gamecube keyboard to get an idea.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I'll sell you my copy for 700$.
Didn't even think about scanning stuff with the controller. Seems obvious now, but I'm fine with that.
How rare is it though, Poo? I paid for half of a copy that my friend eventually traded in without my knowledge.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Yeah, I knew someone would get me on that shit but I just don't see it happening for them, at least not at launch or soon after.
Dreamwriter
Member
One of the big advantages of existing controllers, is the fact that almost 100 million homes already own them. If Nintendo makes new controllers, they are removing that huge advantage.
But I think regardless, the system is going to be packed with one Wii-U screen, one Wii Remote, and one Nunchuk. If they don't then developers won't make much use of the "assymetrical gameplay" that Nintendo was pushing hard last E3, because publishers are morons and assume that if it doesn't come with the system, nobody will own it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's not THAT rare but the asking prices on those silly sites is fairly steep.
Or steep enough for me to taunt friends that didn't get the game before Nintendo discontinued it, muhahahahahaha.
I guess sometimes "limited edition" means just that.
Chopper Dave
Member
My big point is the Upad will simply not cut it for local multiplayer because of technical and cost related reasons. Nintendo's only solution as far as we know is the wiimote and its classic controller. The obvious advantage here is millions of people already own these controllers. The wiimote/nunchuck in particular is the standard combo in all original wiis so it seems natural any game using the CC may as well use the more standard wii control option as well.
I don't doubt Nintendo could see some big $$$ possibilities in trying to sell people new dual analog controllers that they shouldn't need if they already own a CC.
I don't doubt Nintendo could see some big $$$ possibilities in trying to sell people new dual analog controllers that they shouldn't need if they already own a CC.
But, there's always money to be made with new controllers. That, and let's be honest here, local multiplayer isn't important to developers as it used to be.
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, why did they trade it in!? I wanted to play it and I knew it was going to be worth something some day. Fuck!
Agent Unknown
Member
I leave the thread for one day and final controller design gets leaked, there's rumours of a Metroid Starfox crossover (seriously, what on earth?), uh...anything else I missed?
Anyways, updated design is awesome, love the sticks and thicker design for more grip, hopefully the d-pad will be comfy/responsive too.
Anyways, updated design is awesome, love the sticks and thicker design for more grip, hopefully the d-pad will be comfy/responsive too.
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