Fox Mulder
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There are 802 Pokemon.
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Hot Coldman
Banned
It's gotten to the point where each area of a new game can be wonderfully varied. SuMo lets you catch dragons on the first island, because there's enough Pokemon that that doesn't break the game or deprive you of awesome Pokemon later.
It's great. Much better than every other area being home to Graveler.
It's great. Much better than every other area being home to Graveler.
UnemployedVillain
Member
I'm not sure where you'e going with this or why you can't seem to disentangle performance and features/focus. So far you've posted a sum total of ZERO reasons or justification for why you don't believe multiplayer and battles are the main focus and catching is, probably because you can't
Frost Walrus
Member
The series went downhil after Rhydon
GuitarGuruu
Member
It'll definitely reach 1,000. The question is when. Each generation lately seems to be getting smaller and smaller. They seem to be artificially shortening the amount added each generation to prevent having such a large number.
Its really inevitable though. And i'm all for it, never can have enough Pokemon and I can name them all!
Its really inevitable though. And i'm all for it, never can have enough Pokemon and I can name them all!
MaximumSpider
Banned
Oh you lol
lvl99 Pixel
Member
its like they knew the design was uninspired so they had to include pikachu
Framerate and accessibility are terrible in s/m, which seems to me like they didnt focus so much on multiplayer as much as they wanted new mechanics in general.
There was more effort put into cutscenes than any significant multiplayer addition.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Man, you guys really do stretch for insults lol
Hot Coldman
Banned
If you don't like it, fine, but I think calling a sentient sandcastle "uninspired" means that's not the word you think it is.
I just..dont see how Pallosand is more crazy than Muk and i love both of them.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
you had a similar concept but more inspired with Rotom
insult? for whom?
Vital Tundra
Member
You mean any less uninspired than Muk, who is literally just sludge.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
That's not even Pallosand's usual form. It's just art of it sucking a Pokemon into it's trap.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
I know what it looks like, I have the game.
Its by that british character designer whose concept art has had pokemon being stabbed and killed etc. He might have issues.
LMAO
I mean yeah. I'd love even crazier monster designs not gonna lie.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I do prefer Rotom, yeah, that's the best iteration of a possessive ghost, but the idea of a possessed sandcastle that's formed as such to lure in children and Pokemon to eat their souls is brilliantly dark, as Pokemon often is.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Really makes you think
lvl99 Pixel
Member
often laughably so
palossand has a bunch of corpses inside it etc , but they want you to also believe that pokemon battles are the worlds main pastime and totally not abusive even though half the time they're said to tear other pokemon apart casually.
didnt say it did
im just not a fan of his work
Zen_Arcade
Banned
That doesn't really have anything to do with if the design is good or not.
Hot Coldman
Banned
In the wild. In the wild, Pokemon care for themselves, and so Pidgeotto will eat Magikarp, Sableye will eat Carbink, Mareanie will eat Corsola. But trained Pokemon are fed prepared food and are tamed to incapacitate, not kill or consume, other Pokemon. Simple logic easily construed by the nature of Pokemon battles vs the described habits of wild Pokemon.
But also: don't think about it too hard.
Dark Orchid
Member
Nah, went downhill after they changed the name to "Pocket"
Seriously though, I'm always amazed when the quality of Pokemon designs still holds up after all these years. Gen 7 was unbelievably strong and I was shocked how the good designs kept coming with those monthly reveal spams last year.
...just wish they had all been a little bit, you know, above base 60 speed.
Vital Tundra
Member
Nah, went downhill after they changed the name to "Pocket"
Seriously though, I'm always amazed when the quality of Pokemon designs still holds up after all these years. Gen 7 was unbelievably strong and I was shocked how the good designs kept coming with those monthly reveal spams last year.
...just wish they had all been a little bit, you know, above base 60 speed.
The speed issue with Gen 7 still baffles me. Why is Vikavolt so slow??? It literally contradicts the Pokemon.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
I mean thats quite a handwave when theyre literally fighting their natural enemies, or some that exist purely out of spite etc
even if battles are 100% fine, you still go out of your way to start brawls with wild pokemon
it works as a cartoony game, but it sometimes takes itself seriously and falls apart very quickly
Like I read the manga up until Giovani starts killing pokemon, and it made me think, if they can be insta killed and gibbed why would the world revolve around this sport? it definitely becomes something a sociopath would enjoy
Salty Rice
Member
With every new Gen the Pokemon get shittier.
Other than maybe Gen 5, not really.
Although "Gotta Catch 'Em All!" was an iconic slogan earlier in the series, they dropped it a long time ago. I assume because catching them all became difficult, or at least immensely time-consuming. Especially in Gen III where you could not transfer your GB Pokemon over, and RS only had about half the Pokemon available to capture. They didn't really push catching all the Pokemon again until Sun and Moon with the Alolan forms and the updated Pokedex features.
Also I have no idea if Japan ever had a slogan similar to "Gotta Catch 'Em All." Collecting all the Pokemon is just one OPTIONAL activity you could engage in.
Also I have no idea if Japan ever had a slogan similar to "Gotta Catch 'Em All." Collecting all the Pokemon is just one OPTIONAL activity you could engage in.
Rumblebones
Banned
No. Those are all acceptable designs. They fit the aesthetic.
A fucking popsicle does not. A sand castle does not. Stop defending mediocrity.
Not all Pokémon tho. There are some cool Pokémon designs in gen IV and forward. Of course there are also designs that make you think "this guys are running out of Pokémon ideas" like this two questionable designs:
Op, with 802 pokemon there are 362,720,721,781,320
Team combinations
MaximumSpider
Banned
Kalos and Alola has some of the strongest designs we've had in the entire franchise.
LOL
Calm down lol, it's all subjective in the end. I'm indifferent towards the ice cream one, while the sandcastle one is rather cool. At the end of the day, each gen has its Pokemon that are easy to criticize.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
you haven't actually explained how those designs constitute mediocrity or how they 'don't fit the asthetic'
you just keep saying they're mediocre
why?
"because popsicle"
"because sand castle"
same shit, different day
NipplesAndToes23
Member
How does a game that takes place at islands known for their beautiful beaches where people make sand castles doesn't fit the aesthetic? Also I'm pretty sure there isn't a popsicle pokemon.
I'll never get why they made this gen so slow.
He's referring to Vanillite, Vanillish and Vanilluxe, which are Icicles covered in snow shaped like I've Cream cones
Maybe it's because there's not a lot of thought put into them? Like I said earlier there are a few questionable designs. although palossand is great, don't see nothing wrong with him.
whitemex88
Member
More like a mass extinction..amirite
Not all Pokémon tho. There are some cool Pokémon designs in gen IV and forward. Of course there are also designs that make you think "this guys are running out of Pokémon ideas" like this two questionable designs:
Those are terrible but still not as bad as this entire sequence of evolutions:
Well again, some would argue that previous gens all have their own questionable/mediocre designs, including Gen 1. Regardless, Gen 7 ain't really the gen to be saying this about. It has a ton of Pokemon that were well thought out, like Lurantis for example.
I mean...
What's your opinion on palossand &ditto?
Those are terrible but still not as bad as this entire sequence of evolutions:
I'm still scratching my head on that one. Seriously who thought adding new evolutions to those classic old designs was a good idea?
Those are terrible but still not as bad as this entire sequence of evolutions:
I will not tolerate any insults on Magnezone, Hell I even like Magmortar and Electivire
Rhyperior and LickyLicky suck tho
lvl99 Pixel
Member
they're the equivalent of a treasure chest mimic tho
Huge Succeeded
Banned
and what's your basis for thinking that?
because I've heard that a lot. in reference to a lot of Pokemon. and that specific criticism is so often just a reflection of that poster's kneejerk feelings toward a design, and nothing more. people will say, 'boy, that's a lazy design' or 'boy, that's uninspired' without qualifying that shit, even in reference to designs that are genuinely clever, or even based on real life creatures that poster simply didn't recognize.