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TheSrb2DUDE: Splatoon 2- Motion controld vs sticks?
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foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Dont know, but he is or at least was a big sonic fan
His channel use to do a lot of stuff with sonic before he went competitive with splatoon and started uploading vids having to do with it
If you look far enough back you can see SRB2 videos, as well as lots of other Sonic ones.
Gyro aiming gives you aim correction (or what he calls "snapping onto") that isn't possible with traditional sticks. It's the open secret of the Steam Controller, and it was fantastic in Splatoon 1 as well despite the unwieldy nature of the gamepad. No surprise it's superior here.
From the image it looks like you took a lot of splatting, no motion controllers confirmed.
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Retro Edge
Member
I still believe that motion control in this game is not "so much better" just because it's motion control but because the stick control in this game is quite awful in comparison to many many other console games.
It always feels off and imprecisely.
It always feels off and imprecisely.
Motion controls are fine and to some degree better. I just wish they would not lock out the vertical stick movement.
It would totally be that way and I love the SC for that, but again... do not lock out stick aiming on one axis.
It would totally be that way and I love the SC for that, but again... do not lock out stick aiming on one axis.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
i can't play with motion, my hands are always moving, it's just painfull, so sticks for me!
I tried playing without motion controls and I just couldn't do it, even in handheld mode. My brain won't let me go back. It feels so cumbersome, I just didn't feel comfortable aiming and moving at the same time, using the cursor to long-jump, it was just wrong. I didn't feel fully in control.
I'm sure those used to twin stick controls will find it totally fine but if you've mastered the motion controls you can never go back.
I'm sure those used to twin stick controls will find it totally fine but if you've mastered the motion controls you can never go back.
Turning (horizontal) is available via stick (see my post above).
Every time I think the motion controls maybe aren't working for me I try without for about 5 seconds and find myself instinctively trying to use them. They're definitely the way to go even if I can't quite find the right sensitivity yet (had no problem in the original, annoyingly). +1.5 motion +2.5 stick feels ok at the moment though.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
It hurts my hands so thanks no. Maybe when I get the Pro Controller, but with the grip and handheld mode it hurts. Well, it's not a big pain, but it's uncomfortable and I can see it transitioning to real pain after a while.
Most people in the "core community" definitely don't give motion controls a chance. If Wii has shown anything is that plenty of hardcore gamers who clamor for challenge can't stand being challenged to learn new types of controls and don't bother overcoming the difficulties inherent to change.
Of course, that doesn't mean someone is wrong for not using motion, just that they're wrong if they can't accept motion controls are more precise and accurate.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
That's a whole lot of assumptions.
Icedburden
Member
I'm in the 20% then. I've tried EVERYTHING but the camera constantly dips downward when I play. I've tried to recalibrate among other things. Nothing fixes it. I'm doing great using the sticks though so it's all good.
Nitpicker_Red
Member
Vertical gyro moves are the easiest to quickly turn a wide angle since you just tilt your wrists right? The wide horizontal turn is not as comfortable to do fast, so it makes sense that you'd need sticks support.
Definitely a video I'll watch OP. Thanks for sharing!
I might be in the same boat even though I'm waiting for my copy of Splatoon 2 still.
People - including me usually - tend to say that having more options is always better but for me with Splatoon 1 this mostly led to going back and forth between both control schemes while never fully feeling either of them fully felt perfect. The motion controls led to unintentional and jittery camera movement while also leading to me stuggling with the invert y-axis option that I normally always turn on, while the sticks felt more natural but perhaps a bit more sluggish.
I'll give the motion controls another chance with Splatoon 2 since people generally do keep praising them but if it doesn't click with me again I'll go back to sticks for once and all to avoid again getting hung up on the control options instead of fully getting into the gameplay itself.
I might be in the same boat even though I'm waiting for my copy of Splatoon 2 still.
People - including me usually - tend to say that having more options is always better but for me with Splatoon 1 this mostly led to going back and forth between both control schemes while never fully feeling either of them fully felt perfect. The motion controls led to unintentional and jittery camera movement while also leading to me stuggling with the invert y-axis option that I normally always turn on, while the sticks felt more natural but perhaps a bit more sluggish.
I'll give the motion controls another chance with Splatoon 2 since people generally do keep praising them but if it doesn't click with me again I'll go back to sticks for once and all to avoid again getting hung up on the control options instead of fully getting into the gameplay itself.
My problem with motion aiming is I can't relax into my couch and do it. I like to keep my one arm resting on my knee while I play. And having one arm's motion restricted makes moving the controller to aim really uncomfortable and restricted.
Certainly not dogging anyone who prefers motion controls, I'm sure they're better. But if we're gonna go for perfect controls in a shooter, why not give my a mouse and a keyboard. It also takes away my comfortable couch position but it's the perfect shooter control scheme...
Certainly not dogging anyone who prefers motion controls, I'm sure they're better. But if we're gonna go for perfect controls in a shooter, why not give my a mouse and a keyboard. It also takes away my comfortable couch position but it's the perfect shooter control scheme...
As someone who has never had big issues with motion control yet has to listen to whining anytime motion control is being used, either forced or not... It gets hard to not get assumptions. Espescially as most of the posts are drive-by "lol motion controls suck".
I'm curious how many people who advocate motion controls are playing handheld?
Because it feels like crap when the screen is tilting while you're trying to aim. Then again anyone who takes gaming that seriously will probably use a pro controller anyway right?
I'm doing well enough with sticks, generally finishing top in the majority of matches. The reality is I'm never going to be elite at any game anyway so as long as you're having fun what does it matter....
Because it feels like crap when the screen is tilting while you're trying to aim. Then again anyone who takes gaming that seriously will probably use a pro controller anyway right?
I'm doing well enough with sticks, generally finishing top in the majority of matches. The reality is I'm never going to be elite at any game anyway so as long as you're having fun what does it matter....
Are you implying motion control is only used because people feel forced because it gives an advantage, not because it feels comfortable?
I haven't played Splatoon 2 since testfire but I had no issues going from docked with split joycons to handheld at least.
I'm basically saying that motion while using the handheld doesn't feel right for me personally.
I can't comment on what other people feel comfortable with. I also certainly don't think many people are going to make themselves feel uncomfortable while playing a game, hence why most people would likely use a controller while using motion controls. Yes of course I'm now going to see posts from people who tell me how comfortable they find using motion on handheld, but if I was pulling figures from my ass, I'd say the majority of people would find using a controller more comfortable.
My comment about people who take gaming seriously is my opinion. I don't think the guy who posted the video plays the game in handheld does he? And didn't someone on this very thread say he was a "pro" player?
This whole thread is revolving around the notion that motion controls are "better" and will result in you performing better once mastered. All I'm saying is that ultimately using motion with a controller is better than trying to use it handheld.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Why in the hell does motion controls negate the complete stick control though? Why only give me one axis to control?
This makes no sense... this is why I turned them off. Progress be damned.
sixteen-bit
Member
sounds like motion is the way to go.
Yeah, my main gripe about the controls.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
when I have my pro controller available, analog. If I only have the joycons, play something else.
InterMusketeer
Member
I want to be able to move the camera with the stick on the vertical plane as well, so I can't use gyro controls. I'm into the idea of roughly aiming with the sticks, then fine-tuning with gyro, but I don't want to move the whole system/controller up and down just to look above or below me. Too bad. Hope Nintendo patches it in at some point, though I'm not expecting much seeing how it stayed the same across 2 games now.
Diablohead
Member
Splatoon has some bad stick speeds even at low settings, the Y axis is just as fast as the X when really it should be a little slower, it makes the corsshair feel very loose.
Right stick for large movements and gyro for fine aiming.
gcncontroller
Member
Typically I use the stick for big horizontal adjustments and the motion for finer movements on both axes and aiming. There are also situations where you can move the reticle extremely quickly to react to incoming enemies, make quick escapes when necessary, etc.
I can't imagine playing with sticks only, though to be fair I have never played a traditional shooter before
I see, but the video posted in this thread seems to indicate he is using it not for finer movements but for fast total movements 180 degrees etc. Just trying to figure out how hes doing it
Earthpainting
Member
There's a slight learning curve to it, but I can definitely feel the benefits from overcoming it in games that support it. It's not as good as a mouse, but it's the best performance I can squeeze out of a twin-stick controller.
What Heringer said. Gyro allows me to do quicker and more accurate corrections to my stick-aiming.
Jelle
Member
This exactly. I use it exclusively for finetuning as well, just as in shooting arrows in BotW. Nintendo, please patch this..
motion controls work on both axes