Puck Beaverton
Banned
Harry Knowles would say that. I wish I could say that is surprising.
FF will be awkward I imagine.
FF will be awkward I imagine.
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Tim League of Alamo Drafthouse extends mercy to noted blogger/molester
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George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Disgusting. Can't say I'm surprised, though.
Nothing specifically about him has come out, this is more like a Paterno "buck stops here" situation where he kept associating with these people after this stuff kept being reported to him and helped cover for it.
Not to absolve him of anything, but the poster did note she didn't share these with anyone so Tim wouldn't have been protected Harry on these since he probably didn't know.
Oh I'm not saying that Tim knew those tweets but he was aware of Knowles being a pervert and avoided confronting him about it way before then. I'm just saying it's a bad look for him that he seems to handle these situations with perverts quite poorly and not decisively. He better hope no more stories continue to pop up with him being associated with 'troubled folks'.
No. He's not involved with Fantastic Fest programming. AICN were sponsers/partners, they're a big name in Austin genre fandom obviously, even if they're nowhere near as influential as they once were (you can see that in this thread). But Knowles has nothing to do with Alamo festivals or day to day running. He just runs in the same circles as a lot of Alamo staff obviously.
He can't use the "confidant" card if there's other accusations...
Associate editor at Screencrush :
https://twitter.com/MissBrittHayes/status/911749521469829120
Harry sexually harassed me. he has sexually harassed other women in this community for years. this wasn't an anomaly. he is a predator.
it's unfair to solely blame the Alamo for this. several people in our community (local and not) knew about it and chose to ignore it.
several people who *did* know felt powerless when faced with the weight of that knowledge bc this community has emboldened Harry for years.
he seemed sort of untouchable. and sure, that was partially due to his relationship with Alamo.
some people didn't know until this week. some knew but felt helpless. others thought the allegations were rumors.
in every instance, there is an immense feeling of guilt. everyone is hurting right now. we need support, not outrage.
Maybe another...
https://twitter.com/thehorrorchick/status/911743910950535168
So close to opening a can of worms but I don't think I'm strong enough to do it. To the women out there who do use their voices - ❤️❤️❤️.
You guys are amazing. I don't think tonight is the night to share my story, just because there are more important stories to focus on.
That being said, there are some amazing women out there who have been able to speak up that have made a lot of us feel like we aren't alone.
But I've cried twice tonight before getting over here to FF because I realize I've spent over 8 yrs feeling shame & like no one believed me.
& maybe one day soon, I won't have to feel that way. Just not today. So to all the amazing women & supportive dudes out there, I love y'all.
I'm also feeling massive guilt over being at FF, but I just hope you guys know it's my deep love of film that got me on that plane today.
Not my need to be in some cool kids festival club. I love movies. I love indie movies & that's what I'm here to celebrate.
Associate editor at Screencrush :
https://twitter.com/MissBrittHayes/status/911749521469829120
Harry sexually harassed me. he has sexually harassed other women in this community for years. this wasn't an anomaly. he is a predator.
it's unfair to solely blame the Alamo for this. several people in our community (local and not) knew about it and chose to ignore it.
several people who *did* know felt powerless when faced with the weight of that knowledge bc this community has emboldened Harry for years.
he seemed sort of untouchable. and sure, that was partially due to his relationship with Alamo.
some people didn't know until this week. some knew but felt helpless. others thought the allegations were rumors.
in every instance, there is an immense feeling of guilt. everyone is hurting right now. we need support, not outrage.
Maybe another...
https://twitter.com/thehorrorchick/status/911743910950535168
So close to opening a can of worms but I don't think I'm strong enough to do it. To the women out there who do use their voices - ❤️❤️❤️.
You guys are amazing. I don't think tonight is the night to share my story, just because there are more important stories to focus on.
That being said, there are some amazing women out there who have been able to speak up that have made a lot of us feel like we aren't alone.
But I've cried twice tonight before getting over here to FF because I realize I've spent over 8 yrs feeling shame & like no one believed me.
& maybe one day soon, I won't have to feel that way. Just not today. So to all the amazing women & supportive dudes out there, I love y'all.
I'm also feeling massive guilt over being at FF, but I just hope you guys know it's my deep love of film that got me on that plane today.
Not my need to be in some cool kids festival club. I love movies. I love indie movies & that's what I'm here to celebrate.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So... Fantastic Fest seems to be going well:
Really well, in fact:
Yikes
Really well, in fact:
Yikes
Tender Joe
Member
I mean look, I get it.
Curating and coordinating festivals like this is a monumental undertaking and these films/"scripted events" are scheduled and planned months in advance, but what kind of tone-deaf motherfuckers are allowing these types of shenanigans immediately following the fallout of bombshells of sexual harassment?
What on earth are they thinking?
Curating and coordinating festivals like this is a monumental undertaking and these films/"scripted events" are scheduled and planned months in advance, but what kind of tone-deaf motherfuckers are allowing these types of shenanigans immediately following the fallout of bombshells of sexual harassment?
What on earth are they thinking?
Discotheque
Banned
Really well, in fact:
Yikes
Oh shit was it Terry Notary? That clip from the movie was super tense to watch alone. I'd be suffering from major anxiety if I had to witness it in reality haha
https://youtu.be/NaBTxBmc7vY
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Maybe League is living by the "There is no such thing as bad press" motto right now.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Harry appears to still be taking the "maybe if i ignore it it will go away" route on twitter
I can't imagine doing that job. It's one thing defending a guilty person so they get a fair trial. It's another defending the public image of a total shitbag.
If you develop a conscience, morals, or ethics can you file for workers comp in that industry?
What in the fuck
How clueless do you have to be to not realize that was a bad idea?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
"We already paid for this, I guess we just have to keep doing it!"
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Hell, this stuff would be a bad idea in a normal year.So... Fantastic Fest seems to be going well:
Really well, in fact:
Yikes
DoctorFling
Member
Christ, I keep thinking of Knowles' infamous Blade 2 review. Guy always gave me creeper vibes.
So... Fantastic Fest seems to be going well:
Really well, in fact:
Yikes
Lol, wow .
Nappuccino
Member
So . . . who approved of that film? Like, a new Ed Wood film is a neat thing. The content of said Ed Wood film probably should have been clarified way in advance.
Also, with everything secret, they could have changed the film and no one would have been the wiser. Just . . . what were they thinking?
Also, with everything secret, they could have changed the film and no one would have been the wiser. Just . . . what were they thinking?
Holy fucking shit, these guys.
edit: so when are we starting GAFCinemaHouse, where bullshit like this doesn't happen?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Dipshits
Porn is as old as the medium itself. Not a lot of it survived, but there are a few hardcore films from the 1910s that are well known for instance.
According to this article at least one of his films would be considered hardcore, it's still an utterly baffling thing to show without warning at this point in time.
the The Square stunt sounds dumb
the ed wood movie seems like it's being blown out of proportion, considering that ~~~viral~~~ facebook post is from someone who didn't see the movie and several who have have come out to say the ire is misplaced:
https://twitter.com/annietown/status/912174191314685953
Basically this seems totally misplaced and hasty but considering FF's inability to can scum like Knowles these kinds of side conflicts were bound to erupt.
the ed wood movie seems like it's being blown out of proportion, considering that ~~~viral~~~ facebook post is from someone who didn't see the movie and several who have have come out to say the ire is misplaced:
https://twitter.com/annietown/status/912174191314685953
https://twitter.com/ArchivistAriel/status/912174676796833792Annie Choi said:
Choi also has a bunch of follow-up tweets about how it's very softcore and how positive its depiction of same-sex relationships is, and how much of that was contextualized at the screening.Ariel Schudson‏ said:
Basically this seems totally misplaced and hasty but considering FF's inability to can scum like Knowles these kinds of side conflicts were bound to erupt.
excelsiorlef
Member
The whole place is clearly rotten. Perfect example of progressives who think because they're progressive they can't be sexist or at least can get away with it.
hurricanes
Member
They just keep digging their own graves.
I'm already working on my modern day grindhouse idea.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This sounds like a cut and dry toxic workplace starting at the top and going all the way down.
Shadowhelper
Banned
Wow. Tim League is just as complicit and as bad as any of these sexual assaulters and rapists. He should not be let off the hook.
Also, some more rumors of the shit Harry has done. Keep in mind this is at Tim Leagues festival.
On one hand, this is kind of cool. On the other, it's a great scene in The Square because it's depicting something that crosses the bounds of what's acceptable. It's great in the context of the movie. It's missing the point to bring it to life.
Curious how far they actually went.