Tribes of Trusty
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This game on hard always reminds me that it is a J-Pop themed Shin Megami Tensei.
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE |OT| Do You Remember MegaTen?
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Affeinvasion
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I sure would love a vinyl release of the soundtrack to this game and I'm not even a fan of jpop.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
Any tips for the chapter 4 boss ? Thanks.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
33 iirc, cute Kiria does wonders, burst him down if you have the firepower afterwards.
Make sure you resist the magic on field as best you can, cute Kiria when weak to lightning then go ham, cute Kiria again once the flow of battle moves to second phase, make sure you got evade/hit buffs+debuffs
- Use Kirias Pastel Power to inflict status ailments on bosses
- Attack the guy (forgot name) with Toumas Lance skills
- Use Itsuki for healing or damaging the boss
- repeat until boss is in rage mode and spams strong field magic skills
- Use magic mirror
toastyToast
Member
So this fight kind of came out of nowhere (chapter 6)
Been really starved of new Carnages since the last chapter. Where the hell are the new monsters?
Fighting this Gharnef dude and it seems like I'm way under levelled. Tsubasa is 10 levels below lol. Got him to the last stretch then he kept killing people off I couldn't get any more damage in
Been really starved of new Carnages since the last chapter. Where the hell are the new monsters?
ActStriker
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darkmark1987
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So gad wondering if the game gets better just finished chapter 3 I think
. Game is starting to get a bit dull for me. It seems to follow the same pattern and not much actual story yet. Already guessed
. I'm about 20 hours in now, and like the battles but constant sessions get a bit boring lol touma had fell about 10 levels below itsuki now lol main the other 4 lol
Barry one mamori got her performa
the guy who was outside the idolasphere is working with big bad, most likely a mirage master a villain from the fire emblem games
Those requests are repeatable, there's one for pretty much every dungeon.
Yes you can repeat those dark hee-ho mart quests for the rewards.
All those people saying ××××'s ad-lib performance is the best: Do you not enjoy the Hungry Man?
I burned out around chapter 4 too. Take a break and come back later. The story is truly nothing to write home about, but you are still missing another party member with some unique battle mechanics (
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Does anyone have tips for the final boss?
I actually beat the first form and was pissed to find out there was another form immediately after without a save in sight.
The second form essentially wrecks my party because he randomly switches spell types and because of that Dies Irae attack. Also why do attack and magic mirrors not work for some of his attacks?
The second form essentially wrecks my party because he randomly switches spell types and because of that Dies Irae attack. Also why do attack and magic mirrors not work for some of his attacks?
For one, mirror items don't work on almighty attacks.
Second, what worked for me was focussing on attacking and sessioning over healing - it's risky, but can trigger duo arts that heal you anyway and will fill your session meter enough to
use that Naga skill they give you like crazy
Make sure you have revive items and high armor accessories, and don't sit on your incenses if you have any, but put them right into your party. The fight is very tough, and much of an endurance test.
Does he one-shot you? If not, it's just about adjusting your tactics. Maybe try another party going into the fight, see if it allows you more leeway.
You can also try putting status effects like seal or stun on the boss, it CAN work from what I read, but sounds just as risky as hoping for duo arts to pop. Someone should correct me on this if necessary.
Yeah I know they don't work on almighty attacks but it seems even at other times regular spells aren't reflected, but that's not really too important here.
I'll just spoiler tag the rest since I'll be talking more boss specifics.
Thanks for the advice. He doesn't really one shot anyone except Kiria, which only happened when he used fire spells, then a physical attack, then that energy drain attack. He just sessions her to death, which created this nasty cycle of me reviving her and then her dying for like 4 straight rounds.
I think I just need to take more risks like you said, need to hope for those dual arts. Also I usually enter the battle with Itsuki, Tsubasa (for healing), and Kiria (to use high level ice-spells on the Shadow Dragon); it's also good because all three of these members can hit weaknesses of the shamans and other minions he summons too. I might switch out Kiria though, could help. Dies Irae is a problem... need to just hope for the best though.
Need to also head over to Carabia and just buy all the highest level stuff, forgot to do that beforehand.
I think I just need to take more risks like you said, need to hope for those dual arts. Also I usually enter the battle with Itsuki, Tsubasa (for healing), and Kiria (to use high level ice-spells on the Shadow Dragon); it's also good because all three of these members can hit weaknesses of the shamans and other minions he summons too. I might switch out Kiria though, could help. Dies Irae is a problem... need to just hope for the best though.
Need to also head over to Carabia and just buy all the highest level stuff, forgot to do that beforehand.
Is there a recommended level range for each chapter beyond what they're giving as text prompts ahead of entering boss fights?
I'm basically wondering if I'm taking the fun out of some encounters because I'm overleveled (I did some grinding in Chapter 3/4).
(Sorry this has to be a repeated question but search turned up empty)
I'm basically wondering if I'm taking the fun out of some encounters because I'm overleveled (I did some grinding in Chapter 3/4).
(Sorry this has to be a repeated question but search turned up empty)
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Don't they only give level prompts on very easy?
Well bosses are generally challenging if you go at a "normal" leveling pace. If you're breezing through them and find enjoyment from challenge, I guess you're getting less fun.
Supermanisdead
Member
About class changes:
Also can someone give me a specific list of new game+ features? What's new and what things do I keep?
How many master seals are in the game? I already changed everyone's class once and I've got every carnage from those types. Now I have 5 more of them that I've found around the world. I want to change to the other classes for the carnages but I don't want to keep them like that. It's really lame that it uses a seal to change back to the previously unlocked class.
Also can someone give me a specific list of new game+ features? What's new and what things do I keep?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
17 Normally; otherwise there is a 1/256 from Hee-ho lottery or 3/256 from the dark Hee-ho lottery
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I've only been playing on Hard and have seen level prompts at various times.
chrominance
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Beginning to really hate the absolute requirement of saving after every battle if you don't want to lose any progress. Haha, did you forget to save in the last half hour? SAVAGE ENEMY ENCOUNTER THAT WIPES YOUR WHOLE TEAM IN ONE ROUND FUCK YOU. Oh, did you complete one of those super-grindy Hee-Ho Mart requests just beforehand? DOUBLE FUCK YOU ENJOY GRINDING FOR DARK SHAMANS AGAIN BECAUSE YOUR TIME IS WORTHLESS TO US.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Savage enemies are no issue if you always have Smoke Machines to escape.
Buy some smoke machines. I never died to a battle that I wanted to escape from.
Supermanisdead
Member
smoke machines.
but i do feel your pain. i thought i had saved recently and decided to take on a savage enemy that was way too strong for me. it didnt end well and i was back in fortuna office. i didnt realize how much progress i had lost until i went to look for the dungeon... and i wasn't even in the same chapter anymore.
I never found Savage Enemies that bad? I'd generally be willing to fight them, only using a smoke machine if I wasn't on comfortable resources going into the battle. That said, while I'm generally a hoarder, I very much wasn't careful with resource usage on such a fight, I'd usually use my SP liberally.
Maybe it was due to having played on Hard, the Savage fights weren't as much of a step up from the normal battles?
Maybe it was due to having played on Hard, the Savage fights weren't as much of a step up from the normal battles?
chrominance
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I mean, yes, smoke machines if you're always committed to running (but sometimes you CAN take on a savage enemy encounter with relative ease, and sometimes they fuck you hard, it's frustrating that there's no room for error in judgement), but sometimes you can't even do that. The last time it happens, I was doing one of Aya's missions and it was the mission boss. How was I supposed to know level 34 enemies were way too high for me to take on? They wiped my whole team in one round after I stupidly tried to attack one to see how much damage I could do. Lost a half hour or progress. I mean, why not include a fucking "would you like to try that battle again" option at least? Or an autosave after you hand in a previous request/side quest/chapter? This just feels like the game wants to waste your time.
I've never thought about hoarding SP, really. The game seems designed around sessions and SP use. And like I said above, sometimes savage encounters aren't much more difficult than normal battles, and sometimes they're hell. It seems like as soon as one of your party dies, you are very close to fucked because you're constantly locked in a cycle of reviving downed allies and you can't afford to lose turns attacking.
I've never thought about hoarding SP, really. The game seems designed around sessions and SP use. And like I said above, sometimes savage encounters aren't much more difficult than normal battles, and sometimes they're hell. It seems like as soon as one of your party dies, you are very close to fucked because you're constantly locked in a cycle of reviving downed allies and you can't afford to lose turns attacking.
Just beat the game on normal, took about 55 hours.
Man had to take some risks but beat the final boss, that thing was a bitch.
Anyway I really loved the game, like more than I thought I would. I became pretty attached to the characters and just loved the feeling of the game. I guess what I mean when I say that was that it was "happy," for a lack of a better word. I just got cheered up when I played, it was so colorful.
I felt that the dungeons looked pretty cool too. I enjoyed them more than Persona 4, but I'm sure Persona 5 will be even better.
The battle system just felt satisfying, especially when you got those long sessions, they look so cool. I do wish that you could skip sessions by pressing "B" or something though, it got pretty tedious towards the end of the game especially when you got to near 20-hit sessions.
The music was pretty damn good too, but that might be because I love J-Pop. I don't think they recorded full versions of all of the songs right? Regardless I've had the vocal selection on repeat for a while.
All in all might be my favorite game of the year, not sure if it outdoes Uncharted 4. I doubt they'll ever make a sequel considering this didn't sell well at all, but I can always hope!
Man had to take some risks but beat the final boss, that thing was a bitch.
Anyway I really loved the game, like more than I thought I would. I became pretty attached to the characters and just loved the feeling of the game. I guess what I mean when I say that was that it was "happy," for a lack of a better word. I just got cheered up when I played, it was so colorful.
I felt that the dungeons looked pretty cool too. I enjoyed them more than Persona 4, but I'm sure Persona 5 will be even better.
The battle system just felt satisfying, especially when you got those long sessions, they look so cool. I do wish that you could skip sessions by pressing "B" or something though, it got pretty tedious towards the end of the game especially when you got to near 20-hit sessions.
The music was pretty damn good too, but that might be because I love J-Pop. I don't think they recorded full versions of all of the songs right? Regardless I've had the vocal selection on repeat for a while.
All in all might be my favorite game of the year, not sure if it outdoes Uncharted 4. I doubt they'll ever make a sequel considering this didn't sell well at all, but I can always hope!
I'm not sure, maybe they're giving more prompts on Very Easy? Thanks either way, I found most bosses challenging so far, so I guess I must be on the right track, level-wise.
toastyToast
Member
It's not like savage enemies are that common. Just save if you see one. If you get rekt and reload it won't even be there. There's no risk in taking one on.
FunkyDealer
Banned
MOTHERFUCKING AUTOSAVE (or lack thereof)
Thanks game, I lost a couple hours of progress because there's no autosave, nor any savepoints like in Persona. I hate having to remember to save in the menu!
Why can't it at least save when you reach a portal? God dammit!
Thanks game, I lost a couple hours of progress because there's no autosave, nor any savepoints like in Persona. I hate having to remember to save in the menu!
Why can't it at least save when you reach a portal? God dammit!
I'd just like to say Troll Itsuki is the best Itsuki.
(Chapter 4/Intermission):
It does auto-save before battles
(Chapter 4/Intermission):
"He's my long lost brother" along with the "We should be like that" to Touma were both great.
It does auto-save before battles
on friendly (and easy I think) 
I always used portals as a sign of "okay, let's head back to form new weapons & skills, then save while I'm at it."
....though I won't lie, I had the experience of not remembering a game didn't have auto-save when I played another game in the same series that DID have it.
....though I won't lie, I had the experience of not remembering a game didn't have auto-save when I played another game in the same series that DID have it.
Well, yes, but given the choice between those options, the choice I'd generally go for is to session for 'free' (okay, minimal MP cost), with only really going for an SP-triggered ability if I either needed to make a survival bid or if there was no session available from a general ability.
FunkyDealer
Banned
I'd just like to say Troll Itsuki is the best Itsuki.
(Chapter 4/Intermission):"He's my long lost brother" along with the "We should be like that" to Touma were both great.
It does auto-save before battleson friendly (and easy I think)
That's kinda bullshit. Save-points shouldn't be dictated by difficulty.
I don't mind manual saving, if the game makes sure to remind me with visible points and such. Like Persona.
I agree that the Save prompt should show up more often (like every time you finish a Side Quest).
However, I feel the game is considerate enough to remind you every now and then. "I feel a dangerous presence behind this door" can be easily interpreted as "NOW is a good time to save your game".
Supermanisdead
Member
Finally beat this at around 68 hours. Really great game, probably my favourite jrpg since the original Xenoblade on Wii. I didn't end up doing all the requests, but I did do all the side stories. I'm probably going to go back and do a Lunatic run at some point, maybe in a few months. Never got to do a session longer than 18 hits, is it even possible?
Ulysses 31
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Sessions with multiple Duo Art procs, I'd guess.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
Please don't tell me there are side stories locked under NG+ and lunatic difficulty, that would be bullshit -_-
ActStriker
Member
There's two NG+ requests, but no NG+ side stories
Nope, everything needed for the true ending can be done in one playthrough.
Astral Dog
Member
I alsays save, save save save, remember and you wont have a problem.its annoying but can be done.
There was still three cases were i lost like 30 minutes of progress,though one was cimpletely my fault other the ligeramente went off.
Astral Dog
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Fire Emblem Fates?