For the same console?Denis Dyack said:Nothing has changed - it is still a full blown trilogy as planned
For the same console?Denis Dyack said:Nothing has changed - it is still a full blown trilogy as planned
Pachinko said:It's kind of pathetic on GAF's part that dennis only posts here when the majority of us make fun of his games endlessly. I'd be interested to know if my earlier question could be answered at all now that he's browsing this thread. That is, has the scope of this trilogy been narrowed down to just 1 or 2 games or is it planned that when the first part makes it out there'll be a yearly sequel for the other 2.
I mean, I know SK is known for it's fairly long development times, likely becuase they are an excitable group of folks who just want to show off their product much like peter molyneux or will wright , even if it's months or years away from completion. I"m just saying it'd get a little silly if too human winds up being like half life episodes that come out only every 18-24 months, at that point you may need to narrow the scope of things a little to get a product out or just take 2 years and make a full continuation instead of the next 3rd of the experience.
Let it be said that I'm interested in playing too human when it finally makes it out .. unless it actually does get pushed back another year or 2 becuase by that time I'll likely be investing my gaming hours elsewhere.
Denis Dyack said:There will be no cliff hangers - we feel those are the kiss of death for a good trilogy. There will be some overarching plot points that will not be resolved until the final game but this a must for a trilogy. As i have said before each game will be self contained.
yoopoo said:For the same console?
Denis Dyack said:In time these comments will be bearers of fruit. Unfortunately for many here, they are going to be very bitter.
Denis Dyack said:I am sorry to see not much has changed here on the GAF. There should be no question as to why many developers do not post here. Thanks to those who were positive and made some logical comments.
To me the passing around these pictures/comments is like smashing the conch which alludes to many of the secondary themes in Lord of the Flies.
In time these comments will be bearers of fruit. Unfortunately for many here, they are going to be very bitter.
What's stupid is that you've decided to take that so seriously. I think it's you that needs to grow a thick skin.Pristine_Condition said:
Son of Godzilla said:Maybe it's the fever I've been running, but the past page or so is an incredibly bizarre read. Dyack appears to be speaking in some sort of dire half-English and Mifune is running up a hardcore apologetic banner out of nowhere, and I unno... It feels like a ****ing Persian is about to get kicked into a pit.
MightyHedgehog said:What's stupid is that you've decided to take that so seriously. I think it's you that needs to grow a thick skin.
Caspel said:Here's a quick look at the calendar and why I believe Too Human will benefit with moving into 2008
April:
Guitar Hero II
May:
Forza Motorsport
Spider-Man 3
Two Worlds
July:
NCAA Football 08
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men
Project Silpheed
urk said:Of course it looks light right now. Six months from today, that 2008 list is going to be filled out considerably. By your logic, they should move the title to 2009 because the list looks like this:
2009
Can't see shit.
Pristine_Condition said:I have never trolled Too Human, and I have, in fact, been looking forward to it.
Until now.
Seeing a developer chastise GAF for being GAF is pretty pathetic. Everyone who visits an internet board should know what they are getting by now. Some of it is good, some of it is bad. Grow a thick skin or die.
Throwing in some pseudo-intellectual "analysis" comparing GAF to children in The Lord of the Flies is not only insulting, it isn't even particularly original. Perhaps that's the problem--you need a little more time trying to be like Miyamoto and Jaffe, and a little less time trying to be like Foucault and Lawrence.
Thanks for alienating someone who was looking forward to your game, Denis. Good job.
I think GAF has been pathetic for some of the things it's done in the past, especially toward Dyack. I have seen the threads calling him fat, insulting his character, trolling the game, etc. There's nothing wrong with calling out faults of a game, especially with as much hype as Too Human is getting. If Halo 3 turns out to be a bomb, there'd be nothing wrong with criticising it. But, to blatantly insult the figurehead of the development. To personally attack him. That's beyond pathetic. That's the antics of a child. And now, the man defends himself on this board where he's been attacked since E3 2006, and he's the pathetic one?Pristine_Condition said:I have never trolled Too Human, and I have, in fact, been looking forward to it.
Until now.
Seeing a developer chastise GAF for being GAF is pretty pathetic. Everyone who visits an internet board should know what they are getting by now. Some of it is good, some of it is bad. Grow a thick skin or die.
Throwing in some pseudo-intellectual "analysis" comparing GAF to children in The Lord of the Flies is not only insulting, it isn't even particularly original. Perhaps that's the problem--you need a little more time trying to be like Miyamoto and Jaffe, and a little less time trying to be like Foucault and Lawrence.
Thanks for alienating someone who was looking forward to your game, Denis. Good job.
I'm glad to know that much.Denis Dyack said:Nothing has changed - it is still a full blown trilogy as planned - this is discussed in the podcast.
Denis Dyack said:I am sorry to see not much has changed here on the GAF. There should be no question as to why many developers do not post here.
Denis Dyack said:Don't forget - "Too Human suxs. I know I played it! Or I mean my friend did and he said it suxxors."
Quazar said:Cool, you're still around GAF. Do know you have alot of people cheering for you with TH.
If you can answer, is online aspect still in? It'd be great to team up with friends to fight bosses and gain rare items through XBL and have updates with new mobs etc. Hell, that alone is what made MMOs fun for me and clan. Without the sh!tty grind MMOs come with, It'd be a sick feature and will definitely stand out.
Woo-Fu said:Maybe they saw the footage of Heavenly Sword and said, "uhoh..."
Ark-AMN said:Hmm, didn't IGN say a while ago that they were going to head up to SK to play the latest build and get media and stuff? what ever happened to that?
goldenpp72 said:denis has every right to be annoyed at the people here, it's not just people making fun of too human but denis himself, id like to see all the people who trashed him get the same treatment and see how they like it.
PleoMax said:What about the EGM live podcast with Denis Dyack.
Where is it?
Don't be a moron like 95% of the posters in this thread.Woo-Fu said:Maybe they saw the footage of Heavenly Sword and said, "uhoh..."
Hannar said:It will go up tomorrow morning. It lasted about 1.5 hours at GDC -- so should be pretty good.
DNF will come first.Jade Knight 08 said:Too Human is the next Duke Nukem!!! Amirite!!!
Hannar said:IGN is heading up there for the exclusive the week after next. Denis seems pretty pumped about the trip and finally being able to answer all of the questions surrounding the game -- personally, I'm excited he's letting us from TooHuman.net tag along for the story .
You can tell Denis is reaching the point where he's just ready to let the game speak for itself -- and he's happy it's at a point where it can. The whole "ice bucket" thing makes sense, but it's obvious how painful it can be. The level of misinformation that is currently out there is pretty incredible. I mean, if I hear "Hasn't Too Human been in development for 15 years?" one more time I may go crazy... I can only imagine how Denis feels about it. But hey, if the 'knowledgeable' gaming media keeps asking about it, I assume we're going to hear it more and more until the game is finally out.
Eventually the game is going to speak for itself. Hopefully we can get over a lot of the God of War comparisons when the RPG elements are let loose, and maybe, just maybe, the rest of the popular cracks will clear up when there is a solid product ready to go. Because if nothing else, SK does make great games.
Syb said:I read somewhere that the trilogy is based directly on Norse mythology, is that correct? Well then I guess its safe to say that the third title will end with Ragnarok? Cant wait.
Hannar said:It will go up tomorrow morning. It lasted about 1.5 hours at GDC -- so should be pretty good.
:lolPleoMax said:Cool.
DENIS I LOVE YOU
*Shows tits*
Salazar said:I don't object on spec to Dyack namedropping Shakespeare, but the remark about doing dirty jokes for the groundlings and more elevated fare for the aristocracy is bunk. For a start, the Elizabethan aristocracy were at least as sordid in their proclivities as the peasants, and probably a damned sight dirtier given the leisure and privacy to experiment. What's more, reliable scholarship has shown that we have, over the centuries, significantly underestimated the intellect and ability to track narrative of the common folk who went to watch Elizabethan theatre. For one thing, following sermons as if (as you might well have believed) your immortal soul depended on it would conceivably have trained the mind to keep up with a good deal of the vocabulary and wordplay on offer.
The point isn't just academic - Dyack's bogus ideas about Shakespeare are irrelevant in themselves, for sure, but having this patronising audience dichotomy driving game design sucks. Gamers who want a workable combat system aren't guffawing peasants. I for one won't have my irritation with a substandard game tempered by the idea that entry-level moral philosophy inspired this or that part of it. Just make a good game, and stop pretending that you have the artistic elbow-room to pontificate about how different bits of it will change the lives of different gamers.
WTF??? :lolDraft said:
PorscheThunder said:WTF??? :lol
I just can't stop looking at it.BenjaminBirdie said:I think he just leaked GTAIV.