You can't grade FreedomWhatever, USA has Freedom.
You can't grade Freedom
But you can sure try.You can't grade Freedom
You guys do Calculus in elementary school?Ex - Eastern Block have really tough education, especially regarding natural science. My cousin went to US to complete the last grade of high school. She learnt stuff from mathematics and chemistry that we do in elementary school.
USA: 17
Findland: 1
Ha! Take that Findland! We scored higher!
USA! USA! USA!
surprised to not see norway and sweden up there with finland. usually the nordic countries hang out together on top of lists.
Ex - Eastern Block have really tough education, especially regarding natural science. My cousin went to US to complete the last grade of high school. She learnt stuff from mathematics and chemistry that we do in elementary school.
I'm surprised the US isn't lower.
Woo USA actually made the list!
Math education is uneven as hell and saying "last year of high school" doesn't tell us anything about the content. What class was it?
I'm surprised the US made the list, considering the bad things I've heard about the education system over there.
No idea, she just said that anything related to mathematics/chemistry was laughably easy. Another friend, who barely got Ds in mathematics in high school back here scored As in mathematics when he went to US.
There list seems flawed to me. Anyone else from the USA agree?
The other day I was talking to a Korean friend of mine who had just gotten back from working at Samsung in Seoul. He was complaining about how the people working there who had gotten PhDs in South Korea were not as good as the typical PhDs in the US. His complaint was that the S.K.-educated students would work really long hours on tasks you gave them, but lacked the imagination and ability to synthesize and create new ideas and develop novel research.
This is a sentiment I've actually heard expressed on many different occasions from PhD students from South and East Asia. When I ask them to compare their education in the US to that of their home country, they tell me that they feel like their classmates who were educated in the US are a lot more creative and that their own education focused on drills that were good for memorization, but that there was little emphasis on fostering creativity.
One of the weaknesses of large-scale standardized tests is that it is very easy to write and grade questions that probe lower-level cognitive skills like memorization, understanding, and application and very difficult to write and grade questions that probe higher-level skills like judgment and synthesis. This makes me wary of primarily using standardized test scores to make such broad statements as one educational system is flat-out "better" than another. I do think the information we get from such tests is valuable, but that it is important to limit the scope of the conclusions we draw from them to what they are actually testing. In this case, I would say that there are probably more components to what we would consider a good educational system than just things like basic math and reading skills and college enrollment levels. Probably we want to look more towards the scientific, technological, and cultural achievements being produced by the people who went through that educational system.
Lol @ South Korea and Japan.
Yeah, great education systems there. A complete focus on rote memorization and a progression system where your life is fucking over if you mess up on a single test.
My gf is Korean and went to Soul National. She's being held back from getting her masters in music education by ONE test that has nothing to do with her field of study. And none of the professors are willing point her in the right direction.
There list seems flawed to me. Anyone else from the USA agree?
Perfect. 10/10
I'm proud that we made number 17. "Nope, just 17." "17, you're ready."
I wouldn't call Japan or South Korea small at least population wiseWhat else is shared by the top 5 countries? They're small nations with largely homogeneous populations.
UK seriously over rated, failing on so many basic levels like reading and numeracy. Maths in particular is a complete joke at 11-16 years. My friend from Bulgaria was saying things I couldn't do at 18 were taught to her at like 14.
There list seems flawed to me. Anyone else from the USA agree?
Don't w00t you fool, look at what's happening in Ontario right now and demand better.W00t Number 10!
10/10There list seems flawed to me. Anyone else from the USA agree?
Small geographically with populations localized in urban centers. I should also mention that I'm Korean.I wouldn't call Japan or South Korea small at least population wise