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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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I think Hamm is a shoe in next year. Just a hunch. Unless another True Detective comes out of left field I feel like the Emmy people are going to give him one just to acknowledge the overall work he did.

The Emmys really don't work that way. He hasn't won yet, so I see absolutely no reason to think Hamm will win next year.
 

Chinner

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breaking bad is just a craze like pogs or pokemon, with most people saying they're fans to look 'cool'. most bb fans are unable to name the main characters names and think it's a show about fried chicken.

true detective is art compared to it.
 
One clear contender is gone. Which isn't to say he will win, but he may get lucky and no one will fill Cranston's void.

True, but if they haven't seen fit to reward him yet I fail to see why they will now. I mean he hasn't only lost to Cranston. He also lost to Kyle Chandler, Damian Lewis and Jeff Daniels.

No actor from Mad Men has ever won an Emmy.
 

B33

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breaking bad is just a craze like pogs or pokemon, with most people saying they're fans to look 'cool'. most bb fans are unable to name the main characters names and think it's a show about fried chicken.

true detective is art compared to it.
Why can't they both be great?
 

nick nacc

Banned
at least Fargo got what it deserved.

I was blown the fuck away by True Detective. It's finale had some great acting but the story didn't wrap up as cool as I thought it could have been.

Then Fargo came out and I was hardcore True Detective best thing ever. And it's on par or even better.

Damn mini series are where it's at for me.
 

Fjordson

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True, but if they haven't seen fit to reward him yet I fail to see why they will now. I mean he hasn't only lost to Cranston. He also lost to Kyle Chandler, Damian Lewis and Jeff Daniels.

No actor from Mad Men has ever won an Emmy.
Damn, that's rough.

Love Mad Men, really hope Hamm wins it. Always liked him way more than Cranston even so it's sad that he hasn't gotten at least one.
 

CassSept

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Putting it in Drama over Miniseries was a risky move, but the end result was in the realm of expectations, especially after Breaking Bad won Best Drama last year.

Well deserved awards for Direction and Cinematography though.
 
I return from a great date to see only an Emmy for direction?

Typical Emmy's. Try not to get too caught up in it folks. We know the show is good. We enjoyed the storytelling and acting. Awards aren't needed to further validate our feelings.
 

Blader

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The Emmys really don't work that way. He hasn't won yet, so I see absolutely no reason to think Hamm will win next year.

By that logic, Kyle Chandler not winning for four years in a row would mean there's no reason he'd pick up an Emmy for his last season. And yet...
 
breaking bad is just a craze like pogs or pokemon, with most people saying they're fans to look 'cool'. most bb fans are unable to name the main characters names and think it's a show about fried chicken.

true detective is art compared to it.

Nope. True Detective is a good show, but at times it borders on pretentious. Hannibal get the atmosphere of dread and sustains it for the entire season. Not to mention it continues to get better. True Detective starts getting worse after the half way mark. Also, the ending left a lot to be desired for me personally.

Breaking Bad is universally regarded as one of the best tv shows ever made. It might not be art, but I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than I did True Detective.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Hannibal is pornographic at times, whether its dialogue, cinematography, or just plain gore. Every line that comes out of the characters' mouths is some kind of #deep metaphor. Will is particularly guilty of this.
 

Mononoke

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breaking bad is just a craze like pogs or pokemon, with most people saying they're fans to look 'cool'. most bb fans are unable to name the main characters names and think it's a show about fried chicken.

true detective is art compared to it.

X thing that is loved = overrated, because a lot of people love it. This argument is so old and tired. I'm surprised people still use it. What's funny is, there were people saying the very same thing about True Detective (because it was one of the quickest shows to get universal praise and immense love from fans).

I'm totally fine if someone doesn't like a show that everyone else is praising. But I don't get why the "overrated" "craze" is the go to defense for anything that is well liked/praised. I mean, with that logic everything is overrated until it lines up with something you like.
 
breaking bad is just a craze like pogs or pokemon, with most people saying they're fans to look 'cool'. most bb fans are unable to name the main characters names and think it's a show about fried chicken.

true detective is art compared to it.

I'm assuming this is sarcastic but it reminds me of the insane hyperbole that surrounds this show. True Detective is very good, and I thought the season was better than Breaking Bad's overall, outside of Ozymandias. It's not The Wire, it's not The Sopranos - it's one really good season. Let's see what happens now. Most people were either disappointed by the last couple episodes or outright disliked them, for instance. Let's see how Pizzaman follows it up, and whether he can come up with a more satisfying end. (And I liked the last episode btw).

Very similar to Nolan fanboys here who make ridiculous statements about the alleged quality of his work.
 
By that logic, Kyle Chandler not winning for four years in a row would mean there's no reason he'd pick up an Emmy for his last season. And yet...

Sure but Chandler hadn't been getting nominated and losing every year. The Academy has had numerous chances to award Hamm and hasn't at every turn. Mad Men hasn't won anything at all for a few years now at the Emmys and no actor on the show has ever won.

It most likely isn't happening.
 

Hindle

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We got 5 years of BB, Cranston won the award plenty of times during that period.

Mcconaughey's performance on the other hand was a once in a generation thing, he won't be returning to that role or even TV again. Seems a shame he didn't get the award.
 

CrankyJay

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HBO kinda screwed True Detective by running it as a Drama. It would've had a much better chance of winning as a mini-series.

lol, earlier this year people from the other side of the fence were whining that True Detective didn't do this in the first place (fans of Breaking Bad, Mad Men, etc), said they were stacking the deck

including FX's CEO:

Cue a soundtrack of tiny violins for this playground fight between television networks.

FX Networks CEO John Landgraf says it's unfair that HBO plans to submit its critically acclaimed show "True Detective" in the Outstanding Drama Series category vs. the Outstanding Miniseries category at this year's Emmy Awards.

"My own personal point of view is that a miniseries is a story that ends, a series is a story that continues. To tell you the truth, I think it's actually unfair for HBO to put 'True Detective' in the drama series category because essentially you can get certain actors to do a closed-ended series, a la Billy Bob Thornton in 'Fargo' or Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson in 'True Detective,' who you can't get to sign on for a seven-year deal," Landgraf said at FX's upfront presentation to advertisers on Wednesday.

Full article: http://news.moviefone.com/2014/04/09/fx-hbo-true-detective-emmy/
 

Blader

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Sure but Chandler hadn't been getting nominated and losing every year. The Academy has had numerous chances to award Hamm and hasn't at every turn. Mad Men hasn't won anything at all for a few years now at the Emmys and no actor on the show has ever won.

It most likely isn't happening.

So in your mind, it makes more sense for the Emmys to award an actor they ignored for four consecutive years already than it is to award an actor that has been consistently on their radar?

The only way Hamm isn't getting an Emmy is if Mad Men's last season is Dexter levels of bad.
 
We got 5 years of BB, Cranston won the award plenty of times during that period.

Mcconaughey's performance on the other hand was a once in a generation thing, he won't be returning to that role or even TV again. Seems a shame he didn't get the award.

HOWEVER

Cranston will likely not pull off a performance like this because his other performances aside from walt have been tepid as a result while McConaughey's acting been consistently amazing throughout all the things he has been in recently and due to his career he is more likely to win more awards due to his acting than Cranston will.

This was essentially Cranston's swan song while characters like Rust will keep popping up for MM

So in your mind, it makes more sense for the Emmys to award an actor they ignored for four consecutive years already than it is to award an actor that has been consistently on their radar?

The only way Hamm isn't getting an Emmy is if Mad Men's last season is Dexter levels of bad.


Or if TD Season 2 actor performance like Woody Harrelson
 
So in your mind, it makes more sense for the Emmys to award an actor they ignored for four consecutive years already than it is to award an actor that has been consistently on their radar?

Sure, new blood over old blood anytime.

The only way Hamm isn't getting an Emmy is if Mad Men's last season is Dexter levels of bad.

I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but acting like it's a forgone conclusion is foolish. Jon Hamm has lost seven damn times in a row, but he's going to win for sure now why?
 

Fjordson

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We got 5 years of BB, Cranston won the award plenty of times during that period.

Mcconaughey's performance on the other hand was a once in a generation thing, he won't be returning to that role or even TV again. Seems a shame he didn't get the award.
Yeah, that is a shame for Matty. Though I just honestly think he was much better than Cranston.

And I'm glad Woody got nominated also. McConaughey gets more attention, but Woody was pretty great in his own right.
 

Hindle

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Yeah, that is a shame for Matty. Though I just honestly think he was much better than Cranston.

And I'm glad Woody got nominated also. McConaughey gets more attention, but Woody was pretty great in his own right.

Aye, McConaugheys performance was really helped by Woody with the dynamic they formed. Both the actors formed a decent partnership.
 

Hawkian

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this is great as a reaction gif but man that's one of my favorite "quiet" scenes in the whole thing. really playing on the overarching themes.. show nails the just little moments of great detective work in an office, that "fuck you" is rust reaffirming why he considers marty to be a "true" detective.

found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVt8i6bdCJE
 
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His major roles after Breaking Bad began in 2008:

Lincoln Lawyer
Drive
Contagion
John Carter
Rock of Ages
Total Recall
Argo
Godzilla

In none of them was his performance even close to excellent


since 2008 MM

Lincoln Lawyer
Bernie
Mud
Magic Mike
Dallas Buyers Club
Wolf of Wall Street
True Detective

In almost all of them MM performance has been noted as one of the best.
 
Cranston hasn't been the lead in any of those, but he was good in Drive with his small part.

precisely my point, his career might not lead him to be a lead like MM is these days or near future and his performance in side characters hasnt been even close to shining as BB. BB might be and likely be the peak so the award to him is technically a swansong
 

Frost_Ace

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HOWEVER

Cranston will likely not pull off a performance like this because his other performances aside from walt have been tepid as a result while McConaughey's acting been consistently amazing throughout all the things he has been in recently and due to his career he is more likely to win more awards due to his acting than Cranston will.

This was essentially Cranston's swan song while characters like Rust will keep popping up for MM

:lol :lol :lol

Incredible how salty and myopic this post is considering this year Cranston won also a tony award for his (acclaimed by public and critics) performance as president Lyndon B. Johnson in "All the way" (role he will actually reprise in the TV adaptation).

Matt likely lost because he split the votes with his co-star, you guys need to get over it, there's no need to shit on other actors.
 
HOWEVER

Cranston will likely not pull off a performance like this because his other performances aside from walt have been tepid as a result while McConaughey's acting been consistently amazing throughout all the things he has been in recently and due to his career he is more likely to win more awards due to his acting than Cranston will.

This was essentially Cranston's swan song while characters like Rust will keep popping up for MM




Or if TD Season 2 actor performance like Woody Harrelson
LOL
 

Fjordson

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:lol :lol :lol

Incredible how salty and myopic this post is considering this year Cranston won also a tony award for his (acclaimed by public and critics) performance as president Lyndon B. Johnson in "All the way" (role he will actually reprise in the TV adaptation).

Matt likely lost because he split the votes with his co-star, you guys need to get over it, there's no need to shit on other actors.
Think his point was just that McConaughey will likely have more chances at awards for major film roles. Not so much because Cranston is not a good actor, but because MM for whatever reason is more commonly associated with major roles and has recently shined in said roles.

edit: at least that's what it read like to me.
 
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