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Trump investigation expands into business and family members

johnsmith

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/financ...rds-in-trump-russia-probe-1494625140?mod=e2tw

WASHINGTON—A Treasury Department unit that specializes in combating money-laundering will share financial records with an expanding Senate probe into possible ties between Russia and President Donald Trump and his associates, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Senate Intelligence Committee requested the records from Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, or FinCEN, late last month, these people said. The people familiar with the matter didn’t specify the nature of those records. One person said that without them, though, the committee wouldn’t be able to reach a conclusion on whether there was collusion between Trump associates and Russia during last year’s campaign.

After a flurry of explanations from administration officials for how and why President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, the President went on the record himself, saying the decision was related to the handling of the Russian hacking investigations. WSJ’s Jason Bellini reports. Photo: AP
Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.), a member of the intelligence committee and the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, said in an interview Friday that he is particularly interested in information about shell companies, money laundering and the use of property transfers that may be germane to the committee’s Trump investigation.

Representatives for FinCEN and Sens. Richard Burr (R., N.C.) and Mark Warner (D., Va.), the intelligence committee chairman and vice chairman, declined to comment.

Possible ties to Russia, which dogged Mr. Trump during the campaign and so far in his presidency, resurfaced as a major political issue this past week after Mr. Trump fired Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey. Critics suggested that sudden move was an effort to interfere in the agency’s probe of potential Russian interference in the election, which both Moscow and Mr. Trump have dismissed. Mr. Trump has said he dismissed Mr. Comey because he wasn’t doing a good job.

A former senior U.S. official indicated that federal investigators are examining whether Russian investments in any of Mr. Trump’s properties or business ventures could be traced back to Russian government sources, including Russian officials who might own banks that were lending money to Mr. Trump.

One person familiar with the Senate Intelligence Committee’s request for the records said investigators plan to look at Mr. Trump’s businesses, as well as companies that do business with him, and potentially a step beyond to companies that engage with those firms.

The inquiry could also include businesses owned by or associated with Mr. Trump’s family members, including Kushner Cos., where his son-in-law and now senior White House aide, Jared Kushner, was previously the CEO.


Great tweetstorm on what this could mean

Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
1. With news that Senate and FBI are seeking Fincen data, likely that many Trump Org staff are fearful.

Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
2. They have done a lot of deals with minimal due diligence with a lot of sketchy characters.

Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
3. Trump Org staff could be exposed to a bunch of indictments: FCPA, money laundering, sanctions violations.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
4. If they start to flip, investigators could find a lot of non-Russia-related behavior that could be illegal.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
5. Aside from the kids, the folks who surely know a lot: Jason Greenblatt, former General Counsel, now at WH, and Allen Weisselberg.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
6. There are dozens of former staffers who hate Trump but fear leaking because of NDAs.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
7. Once FBI and Senate subpoena them, they will hear about a lot that requires investigation even if not connected to Russia and election.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
8. Much of that activity is in other jurisdictions: New York State and City. U.K. if, as seems likely, money flowed through there.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
9. Miami, with its notoriously tough and independent U.S. Attorneys.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
10. I would not be surprised to see, within months, pardons for family and associates.


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson
11. The Trump Org worked in many of the legally riskiest businesses there are: casinos, NY and Miami real estate, oligarch trophy projects


Adam Davidson @adamdavidson

12. Even by the standards of those businesses, they had minimal due diligence, high tolerance for risk. Shocking if nothing is found.

Full article from Adam Davidson

http://www.newyorker.com/business/adam-davidson/the-senate-starts-to-look-at-trumps-businesses
 

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Financial investigation is his Achilles heel. Imagine a family perpwalk though..


Drool..
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Zolo

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Makes sense. While I think he colluded with Russia, Trump's been dealing with Russia for years before the presidency.
 

Jenov

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What's there to stop Trump from just mass pardoning his entire campaign and family immediately? He would totally do it too. He doesn't give a fuck about justice and things like morals.
 
Literally impossible to build a real estate empire in the 70's-90's in places like NYC, Miami other countries etc. and not have a wreaking stench of corruption/money laundering/worse things. Literally impossible.
 
The twitter rant mentions pardons. Can a president pardon their family member? I feel like that's some kind of issue. (Yes I know he'll still do whatever he wants)
 

massoluk

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Ooooooooh, the deal is that every institution is lacking in due diligence one way or another. It is near IMPOSSIBLE for the AML investigation to not find something. The real meat is a matter of how much willing is the institution to turn the blind eyes.

The minute he became US President, every business is polically exposed and required enhanced due diligence. His shady business could kinda skirt around for a bit as he wasn't labelled a Politically Exposed Person. No longer true.
 
Good lord I hope the turd in chief ends up in prison. For life. Fuck him up FBI.

I just want to say that will never happen, and that's not pessimism, but it's never going to be allowed for a President to be arrested and taken to jail unless there's some insane scenario like raping a minor on public TV or whatever. Most likely, if the heat really does start to sizzle, he'll be forced out and given a pardon by whoever succeeds him
 

johnsmith

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The twitter rant mentions pardons. Can a president pardon their family member? I feel like that's some kind of issue. (Yes I know he'll still do whatever he wants)


Yes. And he can do it before any conviction or charges

With six months to go before President Bush leaves office, the White House is receiving a flurry of pardon applications. The New York Times reported that "several members of the conservative legal community" are pushing for the White House to grant pre-emptive pardons for officials involved in counterterrorism programs. Wait—can a president really pardon someone who hasn't even been charged with a crime?

Yep. In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_.../2008/07/preemptive_presidential_pardons.html
 

Davide

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The inquiry could also include businesses owned by or associated with Mr. Trump's family members, including Kushner Cos., where his son-in-law and now senior White House aide, Jared Kushner, was previously the CEO.
Speculative?

This seems to be more important rather than the bolded line:

One person familiar with the Senate Intelligence Committee's request for the records said investigators plan to look at Mr. Trump's businesses, as well as companies that do business with him, and potentially a step beyond to companies that engage with those firms.
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP feels like this is the best way to get rid of Trump without angering his base. Trump is fucked now because it is starting to become a witch-hunt. They are gonna find unrelated illegal stuff and fuck him up.
 

Ketch

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So.... what your saying is that if you've got something to hide, you probably don't want to piss off the federal bureu in charge of investigating things? Who knew?
 

Angry Grimace

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The twitter rant mentions pardons. Can a president pardon their family member? I feel like that's some kind of issue. (Yes I know he'll still do whatever he wants)
They could technically pardon themselves for anything other than impeachment.
 

BriGuy

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At this point, the only way "nothing will happen" is if there's a massive cover-up (intimidation, murder, etc.). This guy has so many sketchy dealings and so many conflicts of interest that there's no way he isn't guilty of some impeachable offense.
 

UrokeJoe

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So.... what your saying is that if you've got something to hide, you probably don't want to piss off the federal bureu in charge of investigating things? Who knew?

The last people you want to piss off. They will come... and probably make a mess even if they don't find anything.
 

Biske

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Hoo boy Trump must be regretting this shit so much.

Even if nothing comes of this, hell even if it doesn't pull up any Trump craziness.


Going through his businesses.... shit is going to be damning as hell. Can take one look at not only his history, but his fucking tweets and easily imagine what a shit show his empire must be.

I mean my god.
 

Josh7289

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At this point, the only way "nothing will happen" is if there's a massive cover-up (intimidation, murder, etc.). This guy has so many sketchy dealings and so many conflicts of interest that there's no way he isn't guilty of some impeachable offense.

All it requires for nothing to happen is Republicans not giving a shit.
 

Davide

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I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP feels like this is the best way to get rid of Trump without angering his base. Trump is fucked now because it is starting to become a witch-hunt. They are gonna find unrelated illegal stuff and fuck him up.

Or it's because they're implicated.

This goes deep.
 
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