He's a goddamn junkie and Schumer is the dealer. Pelosi is the supplier.
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Trump's debt limit deal with Dems likely to lead to DACA becoming law at end of year
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He's a goddamn junkie and Schumer is the dealer. Pelosi is the supplier.
acheron_xl
Member
Even if Democrats con Trump into passing rational policy, he's still a white supremacist trainwreck who's very existence in the office diminishes its standing. It will never be remotely tolerable to me.
Iva Demilcol
Member
So this clown is capable of doing good things as long as the press praise him and his rivals are using that to their advantage?
Keep manipulating him.
Keep manipulating him.
Yeah, Trump is still racist as all fuck. It just seems his greed and need to put himself above all others might actually 'trump' his racism.
It's actually a great way to approach this. The best press coverage Trump can get would be by working with Dems, so why not take advantage of that.
Don't get me wrong, even if he becomes a straight up Democratic puppet, I still won't vote for him come 2020. lol
True but Republicans are more likely to boot his ass out if he's working with the Dems. To me it's a win/win.
I have to imagine many in the GOP were ecstatic thinking Trump's utter lack of experience and knowledge would let them manipulate him all day long. I'd say it worked for maybe 4 months with regulation shit. But it's turning south quick for their agenda. Years gonna end and the only thing done is disaster relief and stuff Dems wanted.
Super Moop
Banned
This. Been echoing the sentiments that this congress won't do anything in regards to impeachment, but Trump turning Fox and their voters against them actually might change their attitudes.
Still a long, long way to go, but if the democratic leaders can continue turning Trump against the GOP, then maybe his destructive presidency can end a bit early.
RedAssedApe
Banned
trump card
weepingangelz
Banned
If he continues to come out of meetings with Democrats happier than he does when he comes out of meetings with Republicans, maybe.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I wonder
if Republicans try to impeach trump
can the dems somehow turn this to getting trump on their side? "We stopped them from impeaching you, we're basically buddies now! Let's work together!"
God knows I'd rather have Trump influenced by dems then his vice president...shitstain..whatever his name is.
if Republicans try to impeach trump
can the dems somehow turn this to getting trump on their side? "We stopped them from impeaching you, we're basically buddies now! Let's work together!"
God knows I'd rather have Trump influenced by dems then his vice president...shitstain..whatever his name is.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Hannity is going to do that Two Towers Gollum scene, one fellatioing 45, the other hating Dems.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck @ Graham's face.
You know what to do Lindsey. I've been asking for it for months now. Shoulda been the one stabbing their own party, but...
That just goes to show they can't nor shouldn't trust him to stay obedient for any length of time. Get a few sucker punches in, then move on, sticking to principles at the first whiff of his pudding brain beginning to catch on or get cranky.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck @ Graham's face.
You know what to do Lindsey. I've been asking for it for months now. Shoulda been the one stabbing their own party, but...
That just goes to show they can't nor shouldn't trust him to stay obedient for any length of time. Get a few sucker punches in, then move on, sticking to principles at the first whiff of his pudding brain beginning to catch on or get cranky.
Trump apparently wants to make more deals with Democrats
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Trump just flat out blew up in the Republicans' collective faces.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Trump just flat out blew up in the Republicans' collective faces.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Nah, we're good. Nobody wants his ass in the Democratic party.
The Great Uniter
He's sick of losing. Time to try the other side.
The True 5 dimensional chess Grandmaster.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Quote of the week.
He wants more wins and the Democrats have popular policies that would be seen as big wins for him. I mean, so far, the GOP had terrible policies that were met with negative reactions and Trump is tired of people hating him.
First smart thing he has said since being president.
Aaron Strife
Banned
A important lesson from Nixon - do not turn down the deals and gamble on 2020.
Take them, you can always alter them later if you get full power.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
If in some nightmare scenario Trump is still around when Dems take back the majority in the House in 2018 I can totally see him wanting to work with Dems to pass popular progressive policies.
He's wanted nothing but to be loved and adored his entire life. He's finding that to be impossible outside of a very small group of racist GOP voters.
Aaron Strife
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Yup - Nixon wasn't the one backing Single-Payer though, that was Kennedy. Nixon backed ..... something that should sound very familiar- https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2012/06/22/stockman/bvg57mguQxOVpZMmB1Mg2N/story.html
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
no, Trumps the drunk deadbeat dad at the horse track dumping his sons college savings into the horse that just won a race
Even where he to pass all liberal legislation, he's still spending exorbitant amounts of taxpayer money and embarrassing the country daily and diminishing our standing in the world and undermining our institutions and...
But hey. At least he's a useful idiot, right?
Trump's only concerns in life are ego and greed. He doesn't care about policies, politics, citizens, whatever. He only cares about a particularly petty and smallminded idea of "fame" and "positive press". He sure as shit doesn't care about loyalty to the GOP.
All he wants is to make money and feed his ego with ratings and positive news coverage. His obsession in life is TV. Schumer and Pelosi have apparently figured this out and started using it to get him to agree to deals that are terrible for the GOP.
Don't expect Trump to suddenly be a bastion of liberal progression here, but expect him to start considering agreeing with Dems on some issues if he believes he will get positive press from it. All he cares about with the deal yesterday is that it was praised in the media.
All he wants is to make money and feed his ego with ratings and positive news coverage. His obsession in life is TV. Schumer and Pelosi have apparently figured this out and started using it to get him to agree to deals that are terrible for the GOP.
Don't expect Trump to suddenly be a bastion of liberal progression here, but expect him to start considering agreeing with Dems on some issues if he believes he will get positive press from it. All he cares about with the deal yesterday is that it was praised in the media.
Honestly, I appreciate his sentiment. He's realized trying to railroad shit through with just one party is difficult and disastrous, and just getting everyone to agree is a much better idea. We'll see how long that lasts though.
That's not his sentiment at all. His sentiment is "Doing this thing got CNN to praise my deal, I want more".
Most of them, yes. They are highly authoritarian. If Dear Leader says that making deals with Democrats is best, they will agree.
BertramCooper
Banned
Trump's approval ratings aren't going to sink into the 20s - putting him and his party in truly precarious territory going into the midterms - unless his standing among the Republican base starts eroding substantially.
Well, I can't think of a more effective way of making that happen than for Trump to start buddying up to Nancy Pelosi.
Can you?
Well, I can't think of a more effective way of making that happen than for Trump to start buddying up to Nancy Pelosi.
Can you?
Aaron Strife
Banned
This demonstrates why incremental reform isn't a bad thing. Had Nixon's plan been put into place, Clinton could have gotten a public option, then Obama could have gotten single-payer with each step facing less and less resistance. Instead the process was set back 40 years with nothing to show for it.
Lol at Trump being duped by Democrats.
Republicans are probably panicking because they know Democrats are going to stab Trump at the right moment, but Trump is simply too addicted to being praised.
Obama survived because of his charisma, political talent and supporting the more popular policies, but Trump has none of that, so Democrats aren't going to feel sorry for him and defend him when things turn out right (like if DACA is made law) but Dems take the credit.
Republicans are probably panicking because they know Democrats are going to stab Trump at the right moment, but Trump is simply too addicted to being praised.
Obama survived because of his charisma, political talent and supporting the more popular policies, but Trump has none of that, so Democrats aren't going to feel sorry for him and defend him when things turn out right (like if DACA is made law) but Dems take the credit.
I think its a bit of both. "The tv says nice things when I work with both parties" is a good takeaway for him to have.
Exactly. That's the political calculus from Pelosi en Schumer. They know Democrats are never going to support Trump, so there's no danger to the hopes of winning back Congress. But his base and some moderate Republicans aren't going to be happy if he's seen supporting Dreamers that much and probably won't show up at all.
IF some weird Trump-Democratic relationship pops up in Congress, it will probably pave the way for a Dem dominated Congress just as well as Trump with mid 20s approval ratings.
adamantypants
Member
IS THIS THE PIVOT
Fox News is attacking the GOP while praising Trump and Democrats.
What is this parallel universe we ended up in???
What is this parallel universe we ended up in???
Brock Reiher
Banned
I'd be okay with this only if they promised him they'd protect him in exchange for a last few executive orders that help a progressive agenda, only to vote to impeach him anyway.
Trump isn't a good guy.
Of course. But that doesn't undo this.
entremet
Member
Well, the GOP Congress has done nothing about immigration, hence DACA. I think Trump won here strategically.
He comes as tough on the laws and the adherent to the Constitutional process, yet he solves the DACA problem.
You're too generous
If the Republicans tried to impeach Trump, the Democrats would leap at the chance to make sure it happened.
Trump being removed from office would be devastating to the Republican party and lead to them getting destroyed in 2018 and 2020.