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UK General Election 2017 |OT2| No Government is better than a bad Government
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Shredded Brexit, harvested from the finest wheat fields.
HazySaiyan
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Gosh!
PJV3
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The glorious red, white and blue Brexit election that will give the Tories another crushing victory.
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Jeremy Corbyn is obviously Hufflepuff that I can't believe a clear majority of the British public got it wrong.
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Theonik
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The Welsh typically get FA in the barnett formula vs the Scots. Moreover the Conservatives only have 8 seats in Wales vs 13 in Scotland. The particular topic is also a hot button issue in Scotland whereas it's not in Wales and I can't see many English Conservatives kick a fuss to avoid a new GE. Taking out the Speaker and SF Conservatives need 322 votes to pass legislation. With the DUP they get to 328 which is pretty close. But Scottish tories have them by the bollocks as it were. Welsh Tories too.
May seems to only want to stay for 2 years, or until Brexit is done. This is also why she asked to not give another queen's speech until that's done.
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On a more serious note, this is the agreed financial programme:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...t__financial_support_for_Northern_Ireland.pdf
* £200m per year for Northern Irish infrastructure
* £75m per year to give Northern Ireland ultra-fast broadband coverage
* The devolution of Corporation Tax Rates (this is the worst single part of this...)
* The creation of Northern Irish Enterprise Zones (read: tax havens)
* £20m a year for Northern Ireland's welfare budget
* £160m a year for Northern Ireland's NHS, with £10m specifically set to mental health
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...t__financial_support_for_Northern_Ireland.pdf
* £200m per year for Northern Irish infrastructure
* £75m per year to give Northern Ireland ultra-fast broadband coverage
* The devolution of Corporation Tax Rates (this is the worst single part of this...)
* The creation of Northern Irish Enterprise Zones (read: tax havens)
* £20m a year for Northern Ireland's welfare budget
* £160m a year for Northern Ireland's NHS, with £10m specifically set to mental health
Yeah, I can finally break out the Tom Watson pics.
JonathanEx
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We can't trust the public, we know this for a fact.
Anyway we know the logic people are using is:
Gryff: I like them
Slyth: I don't like them
Huff: They're a bit weedy
Raven: Who gives a shit
Does anybody know what Jeremy Corbyn's friend code is on the switch???
JonnyDBrit
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Laura Kuenssberg ✔ @bbclaurak
DUP also get a 'coordination committee' - direct line into govt and a chance to review (or ask for more cash) in two years time
11:44 AM - 26 Jun 2017
So I guess we get a two year cycle in general on whether or not this government will last.
DUP also get a 'coordination committee' - direct line into govt and a chance to review (or ask for more cash) in two years time
11:44 AM - 26 Jun 2017
So I guess we get a two year cycle in general on whether or not this government will last.
BossDarkseid
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We can't trust the public, we know this for a fact.
Anyway we know the logic people are using is:
Gryff: I like them
Slyth: I don't like them
Huff: They're a bit weedy
Raven: Who gives a shit
Best thing Private Eye have ever done.
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At least by my reckoning, better. I wouldn't really want Labour to inherit the shitstorm on the horizon.
JonnyDBrit
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And while I know no-one here much likes the windbag...
Nigel Farage ✔ @Nigel_Farage
Mrs May's mistakes just cost the taxpayer £1 Billion.
11:59 AM - 26 Jun 2017
I think it serves an important point - the £1 billion is an easy figure to cite and remember as an example of Tory hypocrisy on austerity. The fucking magic money tree is real.
Nigel Farage ✔ @Nigel_Farage
Mrs May's mistakes just cost the taxpayer £1 Billion.
11:59 AM - 26 Jun 2017
I think it serves an important point - the £1 billion is an easy figure to cite and remember as an example of Tory hypocrisy on austerity. The fucking magic money tree is real.
That could take weeks.
Oh well. We'll be back in a GE thread eventually, be it six months or two years.
Because there's no fucking way this alliance with the DUP will last. Right?
Sinn Fein aren't going to be super keen to resume power sharing in these circumstances.
The NI/Irish border situation was already going to be a huge issue during Brexit negotiations.
That money is going to have to mean a lot more money for England, Wales, and Scotland through Barnett.
That raises many, many more questions than it answers.
PJV3
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Yep, if the Tories can't win a majority now I don't see them pulling it off after more time in power and the economic problems that are coming.
If it goes badly they might be out of power for a very long time.
JonnyDBrit
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Well, this the apparent, intended breakdown of the extra £1 billion
https://mobile.twitter.com/julianoneill/status/879293049255464960/photo/1
So they've already got an idea on how much they want to spend, and where. If however this much money doesn't prove enough, or mismanagement causes the spending to be ineffectual - both plausible scenarios - then the DUP in two years, or perhaps even sooner, will push the Tories for more money, and perhaps other concessions. Are the Tories willing to give that much?
We can only fucking hope.
To cling on to power for a bit longer? Probably.
Then again, by going with the DUP they've shown desperation already. If it gets worse there may be the possibility they just throw their hands up and go "FUCK IT!" and call a GE as a mercy killing for their Government.
Spuck-uk
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Ah, so NI going to go down the same route that helped crater the Republic of Irelands economy. Well done lads.
EdwardTivrusky
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We can only fu...
Ninja'd like a boss!
I have my fingers crossed that the Tories are out next election. My hands will be spirals by the time that comes i'm sure. And it hinges the left not fragmenting in the meantime and the youngsters turning up to vote again.It talks about devolving rates, not the taxes thenselves.
Possible NI will be able to compete with Ireland on rates, and make the UK Gov pick up the bill for any shortfall.
At least it's a snappy end to the thread. Going out with a bang rather than a whimper.
Yes.
Huw_Dawson
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Overall this has been an entertaining election.
I sincerely wish my party had done better, but I think we will in the future - it's all about setting the party up for the next generation for us right now. Looking forward to Vince Cable finally getting to run the party, too.
The Tories have been weakened so badly that their entire controversial legislative agenda has been blocked. May is a deceased PM who could go at any point in the next two years. After that we will get our next GE - either with B-day bearing down on us or shortly after it.
Corbyn's big challenge will have to be to keep both wings of his party, and his optimistic and hopeful young supporters, energised and united for the foreseeable future. He's got a massive gift right now with such a horribly weak government.
I sincerely wish my party had done better, but I think we will in the future - it's all about setting the party up for the next generation for us right now. Looking forward to Vince Cable finally getting to run the party, too.
The Tories have been weakened so badly that their entire controversial legislative agenda has been blocked. May is a deceased PM who could go at any point in the next two years. After that we will get our next GE - either with B-day bearing down on us or shortly after it.
Corbyn's big challenge will have to be to keep both wings of his party, and his optimistic and hopeful young supporters, energised and united for the foreseeable future. He's got a massive gift right now with such a horribly weak government.
Forget them.
Do they keep the Tories in power? No. So make sure to give them a pay cut to pay for the expediency of buying favour with dinosar-deniers.
Really, how is it legal that a political party can stay in government by explicitly using taxpayers money to buy influence?
Nah. She's just resting. Pining for the Lords.
Huw_Dawson
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Well done good sir
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So are we stuck with the Tories now?
If only the Scottish Tories would cause uproar about this due to Scotland getting no extra funding whilst NI gets £2bn wishful thinking...
Hopefully its in the media for what it is a bung for may to cling on people need to protest this bung
JonnyDBrit
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...Yes, it should.
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The new "X times the size of Wales".
SlipperyFishes
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I guess the EU will get their shake of the magic money tree next. No excuses now.
What is this fuckery? How is it not headline news?
UpDownLeftRight
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Man fuck this country. Absolutely pathetic. It's 2017 and were a country with anti-gay rights maniacs as an official part of our government.
This is still the only political event to provoke me to tears (albeit happy tears when I realised that Labour weren't going to be destroyed and all four constituencies in which I'd campaigned returned large Labour majorities). Even the Brexit vote only managed to provoke stomach-churning fear.
Goodbye, General Election 2017. Your place in history is... very uncertain.
Goodbye, General Election 2017. Your place in history is... very uncertain.
ReplacementPelican
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This is political idiocy. Such a good soundbite for Labour that it almost hurts, coupled with their comments of how we can't just find money.
The Tories have surely fucked it at this point, right? Nobody is going to be happy about this.
The Tories have surely fucked it at this point, right? Nobody is going to be happy about this.
Spuck-uk
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Since this is pretty much our catch-all UK Political be thread at the moment, I got this in the post today:
I am going to have a fun time with this
I am going to have a fun time with this
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Since this is pretty much our catch-all UK Political be thread at the moment, I got this in the post today:
I am going to have a fun time with this
Give 'em hell, son. Good luck!
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