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Uncharted 3: the single-player aiming problems thread [Details in Op, Please Read]
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Lion Heart
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Noticed it in BF3 as well, my friend who was max level in BF2 played 3 and ended up doing one of those circular recoil shots where the bullets hit everything but the enemy lol. Firmware issue?
ConradCervantes
Banned
Yeah I'm waiting on picking this game up now, probably until it's $40. Unreal how a developer could fuck up their aiming mechanic in the second sequel of the series.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Wario64 said:
First post nails it.
Plus, Arne is in the official thread. I would understand this thread if there wasn't someone from the development team you could simply tell in the OT.
BTW did the pistol always have the follow-through reticle bloom? I like it.
I'm surprised that Arne said U2 used the same square coding. Whatever the problem is, U3 has significantly worse aiming controls that U2 IMO. ND just need to do exactly what they did with U2 because currently, the problem is one of the few issues that most people can draw with the game.
BruiserBear
Banned
Bowdz said:
I just can't see how they can claim it's the same. All of us cannot be crazy.
I never once felt the aiming was odd while playing through Uncharted 2 multiple times, but within minutes I could tell U3 felt different.
TouchMyBox
Member
Yeah, the second I started shooting dudes in this game, the controls felt really foreign to me. I didn't remember U2 controlling this poorly, but I just attributed it to not playing any console shooters in a long time.
In the past games, pretty much every kill I made was a headshot, now, about 1/10 of them are. :\
In the past games, pretty much every kill I made was a headshot, now, about 1/10 of them are. :\
Calavera520
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getting tired of reading "i'm still popping off headshots bro.." in this thread and the other one.
It's not about getting headshots, the overall feel of aiming is fucked. there's no getting around that.
It's not about getting headshots, the overall feel of aiming is fucked. there's no getting around that.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
It's annoying to me and I can't hit guys as I could in U2. Not enough to keep me from playing the game, but I hope they just patch in the U2 controls.
The slowing down over an enemy and the bias towards horizontal and vertical movement - these are things that all "good" console shooter control systems have in some degree, to compensate for inherent limitations of console controllers. If it's done right, you shouldn't notice it, but obviously it's possible to overcook it, making the controls feel stiff. But similarly, you would notice it if it wasn't there - Deus Ex: HR, for example, features no slow-down when you move your reticule over an enemy, and the shooting feels a bit clunky and imprecise as a result (on consoles - this doesn't apply to mouse or pointer controls).
The rate at which the view responds when you move the stick is often handled with a curve... the first 60% or so of the stick range actually represents a relatively small movement of the screen, after which it rapidly accelerates. If this feels off, it's probably one of two things - either the curve isn't right, or there is input lag. It's really important not to make the curve rise too quickly at the start - you should be able to make tiny tiny movements of the reticule, so that it barely moves at all... if the screen moves too fast too soon, you'll find it very difficult to aim precisely. But it's also possible to make the curve too shallow - in this case you experience the view moving very slowly for a long time, then suddenly speeding up all in one chunk, probably overshooting the target...
As to why the dev team might not spot a potential problem - if you play the same game all day for weeks and weeks, it's possible to become habituated to anything! Only user testing would tell you if there's something wrong, and probably you would need hardcore players who could articulate exactly where the problem lay. One possibility is that the testing of U3 was skewed towards more casual players, who might feel that something was off but not know why, or attributed any aiming troubles to their own lack of ability - such players might not flag the issue in sufficient numbers to get the attention of the devs.
The rate at which the view responds when you move the stick is often handled with a curve... the first 60% or so of the stick range actually represents a relatively small movement of the screen, after which it rapidly accelerates. If this feels off, it's probably one of two things - either the curve isn't right, or there is input lag. It's really important not to make the curve rise too quickly at the start - you should be able to make tiny tiny movements of the reticule, so that it barely moves at all... if the screen moves too fast too soon, you'll find it very difficult to aim precisely. But it's also possible to make the curve too shallow - in this case you experience the view moving very slowly for a long time, then suddenly speeding up all in one chunk, probably overshooting the target...
As to why the dev team might not spot a potential problem - if you play the same game all day for weeks and weeks, it's possible to become habituated to anything! Only user testing would tell you if there's something wrong, and probably you would need hardcore players who could articulate exactly where the problem lay. One possibility is that the testing of U3 was skewed towards more casual players, who might feel that something was off but not know why, or attributed any aiming troubles to their own lack of ability - such players might not flag the issue in sufficient numbers to get the attention of the devs.
brandonh83
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I won't quit my day job.
I knew it was off. No way the first two Uncharted was like this. It's so damn hard to make small adjustments when trying to get a headshot or just trying to shoot an enemy who's running. If you continuously rotate your stick, Drake will make a square motion instead of a circle motion. Also the sensitivity bar doesn't seems to be doing anything. I hope a patch will be released soon.
Edit: Lol, yeah, just like the picture above, didn't see it...
Edit: Lol, yeah, just like the picture above, didn't see it...
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
This made me lol.MoeB said:
thegreatchamp
Member
Its good to hear that the SP aiming is happening to everyone. I thought I was going crazy
BruiserBear said:
To be fair, I knew what to look out for based on the pre-release complaints on GAF, but for me, the square aiming is not the only problem. IMO, the max sensitivity is WAY to low to give players a good range of controls. The max sensitivity would be half speed for most other shooters and as such, it makes the whole game feel sluggish when I can't snap the camera around as quickly.
I call it Etch a Sketch aiming!
Also auto aim makes you miss shots as opposed to hitting them, I feel if this was someones first Uncharted game and wasn't really into shooting that the game would be tough. Although the shooting elements are toned down in favor of more melee action.
Also auto aim makes you miss shots as opposed to hitting them, I feel if this was someones first Uncharted game and wasn't really into shooting that the game would be tough. Although the shooting elements are toned down in favor of more melee action.
Calavera520
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Facism said:
haha, guerilla.
Just felt slow and sluggish by default for me (especially when compared to the multiplayer).
I turned up the sensitivity and its fine now though. Default is just way too low.
Haven't noticed anything else weird.
Not that I don't believe you all, I'm just not as picky I guess.
I turned up the sensitivity and its fine now though. Default is just way too low.
Haven't noticed anything else weird.
Not that I don't believe you all, I'm just not as picky I guess.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
alr1ghtstart said:
I'm on max sensitivity, the fucking badguys OUTRUN my recticle because its so slow, and then the rigid ass aiming makes doing adjustments on the fly damn near impossible. I used to be godlike with pistols back in UC2, now I have to rely 50% on close-range weapons and my fists.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Upped the sensitivity to max, but it still feels a bit off, like it's kind of sluggish. Still enjoying the game so far, though.
Now, it did feel a tad bit slower to aim and pull off those head shots but I was still able to do it. Is this just a matter or adjusting sensitivity?
Could this just be a difficulty thing? I'm playing on Hard right now. The higher the difficult the harder it is to pull off those head shots?
Could this just be a difficulty thing? I'm playing on Hard right now. The higher the difficult the harder it is to pull off those head shots?
Hitokiri03
Member
I think this is not the caseGuevara said:
Gametrailers had U3 one month before release date. (they said on their "podcast")
This is freaking aimgate.
I just did some browsing of popular Uncharted forums and there is a lot people having the issues with aiming.
Isn't it about time for a statement from ND? I would like to know if they plan to patch it soon or if they are going to continue to say it's the same as U2. Call me an overreactor but I don't want to deal with frustration in controls in an otherwise kick ass game.
I just did some browsing of popular Uncharted forums and there is a lot people having the issues with aiming.
Isn't it about time for a statement from ND? I would like to know if they plan to patch it soon or if they are going to continue to say it's the same as U2. Call me an overreactor but I don't want to deal with frustration in controls in an otherwise kick ass game.
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