Support NeoGAF

[Saberus]

And the 360 then? Also saw gigantic graphical leap in its lifetime.

PS4 has tricks up its sleeve like gpgpu, it has 8 ACEs for 64 compute jobs, games haven't really taken advantages of compute yet, doubt any of these will be fully exploited anytime soon.

I believe second son used compute often.

 

[bombshell]

 

[Rising_Hei]

You just made it seem they're the only ones pushing the envelope, and not devs like ND or GG. As far as I can see ND has managed to render a scene in real time at 1080p60 that far exceeds anything we've seen, and on a 2TF console with a tablet CPU. Of course they figured out new shit.

I believe that Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 had plenty of rendering innovations, so i don't know why would anyone doubt UC4 does that as well

 

[Carn82]

Nobody will optimize for 10TF cards. All that power will go to uber res, AA or rendering in VR mode. They will "Brute force the envelope". ND are pioneering new rendering techniques here, no doubt.

Well, there will come a time when raytracing becomes feasible. But still, if only a percentage of your user base can run that stuff it's more probabable that a lot of pc devs will just crank up the stuff we already know, as usual.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

This isn't true... right? Everyone collaborated to make up this lie, and they're all lying. Everyone.


Because if not....I can't....
how are ND so good? Also, Praise The Cern.

 

[Jonesy7707]

Fucking insane....never, ever doubt the Naughty God's!!!

 

[Kabuki Waq]

In engine means shit. Gameplay footage is the real deal.

 

[CronoShot]

It's fairly impressive even as a cutscene, but it would be infinitely more impressive if it cut to gameplay with this fidelity.

Can't wait to see it.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Sorry, this is one of the things that I'll believe once I see it. Those graphics at 1080p and 60fps? That's some dark magic going there.

 

[RoboPlato]

Wait a minute...does this mean we can also finally get a God of War game at 60?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Holy shit, the amount of people who are going to eat crow.

The only way we can supply this demand is if we invade Castle Black.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Diminishing returns doe

Lol

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Sorry, this is one of the things that I'll believe once I see it. Those graphics at 1080p and 60fps? That's some dark magic going there.

Not a surprise.

 

[reKon]

I'm sorry I'm just impressed enough that this is a real time cut scene

 

[t_wilson01]

Actually it may be somewhat different.
UC4 can be the maximum of graphics in this generation reached on the second year of it's existence. This is because of PS4 being very easy to work with and having almost no bottlenecks which devs should learn to avoid.

The PS1 was referred as being an easy to develop for system and the games still improved tremendously throughout its life cycle.

Mo'fuggin ballin.

The cap is a bit off centered, but that looks great.

 

[scitek]

Does he look a bit more like Nolan North now?

 

[Betta Lines]

I never said it was never feasible. It may have been done before, but I've never even seen it in a single game or trailer so it's extremely rare at best. If you know some nice 1080p 60 fps CG give some examples, I love good CG.

You said that the fact it was 60fps proved that it wasn't CG. Your statement was simply incorrect. If that proved anything, this thread wouldn't exist, the discussion would be completely different.

 

[Darknight]

Wait a minute...does this mean we can also finally get a God of War game at 60?

SSM should make a GOW3 Remaster 1080P/60FPS and GOW4 be 1080P/60FPS also!!

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Sorry, this is one of the things that I'll believe once I see it. Those graphics at 1080p and 60fps? That's some dark magic going there.

When the Destiny PS4 comes out, it'll be white magic.

 

[gai_shain]

In engine means shit. Gameplay footage is the real deal.

ye I am feeling the same way. This is ofcourse really impressive, but I want to see some gameplay first before im getting as hyped as some other people.

 

[VanWinkle]

I... can't... there are no words.

 

[KageMaru]

Ho

Lee

Shitbuckets.

Even considering it's a cut-scene, those graphics are amazingly impressive. Mad kudos to ND for this accomplishment.

 

[TheRealTalker]

lol

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

In engine means shit. Gameplay footage is the real deal.

 

[EL CUCO]

Of course not, they are probably going to have very high quality models and other assets specifically for cutscenes while everything in game will have lower quality assets.

It's OK. I still dont believe any of this is actual gameplay

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=803994

 

[Betta Lines]

Does he look a bit more like Nolan North now?

Only in the sense that he looks more like a real person.

 

[Chamber]

Wait a minute...does this mean we can also finally get a God of War game at 60?

Certainly the bar for linear action/adventure games is being raised here. Maybe a little unfair but I'm looking for 1080p/60 from WWS after this point. Guerilla and Santa Monica especially have to step up.

 

[viveks86]

I'm sorry I'm just impressed enough that this is a real time cut scene

Same here. The extent to which people move the goal posts is as astonishing as this news.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

In fact, it only improved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DW82y6pzBo



No it won't be like that, TLOU's cutscenes were rendered by 4 PS3s i believe
Uncharted 4's is only rendered by one.

That video just gave me chills. That reminded me of E3 2007 where my jaw was literally on the floor watching Killzone 2.

This was coming from a huge Killzone 1 fanboy.

 

[UpUpDownDown]

Looks incredible.

But I have my doubts that kind of fidelity will possible when those polys are spread from the ground you stand on to the mountains in the distance.

Even so, in my opinion this demo is groundbreaking for gaming.

 

[RoboPlato]

Certainly the bar for linear action/adventure games is being raised here. Maybe a little unfair but I'm looking for 1080p/60 from WWS after this point.

Me too. If ND pulls it off for the full game then my expectations for every other developer just skyrocketed.

 

[SolidSnakex]

After last year, I doubt any publisher wants their game near that crap.

I think it'll just depend on whether or not it's a TV broadcast or web broadcast. As some were saying last year, there's no incentive for big publishers to put their games on the show if it's just a web broadcast. Any of those publishers can set date for their game to unveil it on the web and have the full attention be on them instead of multiple studios. But if it's on TV then that'll give them the opportunity to potentially reach a new audience.

 

[Deadstar]

Yeah so as cool as this sounds, nothing else we have seen on any system has anything with graphics that compare to these. So I'm not sure how this is possible. Everything we've seen so far seems really nice but nowhere near the leap this is. Take Infamous for example, it looks fantastic and couldn't be done on the ps3, but this uncharted footage seems like one step above that. I just don't see how. I really hope so but I have to be skeptical.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Again in engine and gameplay footage are not the same thing

 

[tapedeck]

That...is pretty damned impressive.

Its hard to imagine the game will actually look that good while playing it...but then again it is Naughty God.

 

[DangerMouse]

Lol why people still doubt the naughty gods. This game is going to blow minds when we see gameplay.

Yeah lol.

Bad gif I made but sort of first thing I thought of, surely Sunhi can make a better version if he felt so inclined

That's great.

 

[Carn82]

SSM should make a GOW3 Remaster 1080P/60FPS and GOW4 be 1080P/60FPS also!!

Well, easy way to make some money AND get experience with running your engine on new hardware

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Yeah so as cool as this sounds, nothing else we have seen on any system has anything with graphics that compare to these. So I'm not sure how this is possible. Everything we've seen so far seems really nice but nowhere near the leap this is. Take Infamous for example, it looks fantastic and couldn't be done on the ps3, but this uncharted footage seems like one step above that. I just don't see how. I really hope so but I have to be skeptical.

Naughty Dog
New rendering techniques
Team ICE
Naughty Dog

 

[vpance]

I believe that Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 had plenty of rendering innovations, so i don't know why would anyone doubt UC4 does that as well

Exactly. You don't even have to check out their dev sessions to find out anyways, the proof is in the pudding.

Well, there will come a time when raytracing becomes feasible. But still, if only a percentage of your user base can run that stuff it's more probabable that a lot of pc devs will just crank up the stuff we already know, as usual.

Every major dev being on consoles means that will always be the baseline. Of course extra TF from PCs can be applied to various effects or increasing IQ but at the end of the day only what console devs like ND can pull off really impresses me.

 

[Phlebas]

Yeah so as cool as this sounds, nothing else we have seen on any system has anything with graphics that compare to these. So I'm not sure how this is possible. Everything we've seen so far seems really nice but nowhere near the leap this is. Take Infamous for example, it looks fantastic and couldn't be done on the ps3, but this uncharted footage seems like one step above that. I just don't see how. I really hope so but I have to be skeptical.

Its Naughty Dog and they have Corrinne Yu, I don't think ND risk a PR hit to lie to us now.

Naughty Dog
New rendering techniques
Team ICE
Naughty Dog

.

 

[StevieP]

In engine means shit. Gameplay footage is the real deal.

People forget what happened with TLOU and "in game". They'll forget this too

 

[DemurOnion]

When the Destiny PS4 comes out, it'll be white magic.

We'll see. Looks pretty jank to me atm.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

Unless I am reading this wrong...it still does not mean gameplay.

 

[hateradio]

I don't care what it is, as long as it comes out soon.

 

[AstroNut325]

I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of "PS4 will melt trying to render this" comments.

 

[Carn82]

Every major dev being on consoles means that will always be the baseline. Of course extra TF from PCs can be applied to various effects or increasing IQ but at the end of the day only what console devs like ND can pull off really impresses me.

Same here

 

[Kabuki Waq]

People forget what happened with TLOU and "in game". They'll forget this too

Yea but its not that hard to understand. Weird.

 

[Dart]

He looks more Latino now

Well he did spend a lot of time in Latin America... U1, U3, Golden Abyss... he might as well be.

 

[Dinjooh]

Yeah so as cool as this sounds, nothing else we have seen on any system has anything with graphics that compare to these. So I'm not sure how this is possible. Everything we've seen so far seems really nice but nowhere near the leap this is. Take Infamous for example, it looks fantastic and couldn't be done on the ps3, but this uncharted footage seems like one step above that. I just don't see how. I really hope so but I have to be skeptical.

Yea but then you have to realize how different kind of games these two are.

If you look back at their best efforts on PS3 which i'd say was U3 and inFamous 2. U3 looks way way way better than inFamous 2 - Why wouldn't the same happen on PS4?

 

[Alebrije]

I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of "PS4 will melt trying to render this" comments.

The same Ps3 did with TLOU.