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[John Bender]

Welp. He comes the armchair developers.

You don't have to be a game developer to identify nonsense.

 

[Markitron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yQzDbv6rS8

Dat next-gen gamplay.

Spoiler

jk I know the game probably opens up more later on (I would hope, haven't played yet)

When people mention the next-gen gameplay of Mordor they are likely referring to the Nemesis system. It's a fantastic new gameplay mechanic that wasn't really possible last gen, judiging by it being stripped out of the PS360 versions

Also why are Ubisoft going on like we ALL HAVEN'T SEEN THE GAME YET. Yes it's pretty but it's hardly gonna define the new systems. It's certainly not pretty enough to justify trashing Mordor's presentation (which was very nice)

 

[Savitar]

The guy reminds me of that dude that worked at MS on the whole online issue.

 

[AgentP]

What if they could get the PS4 version running at 45fps, but they didn't want to leave the game with a variable framerate, so it just got locked at 30?

Then they could up the res, that is 50% wasted GPU...

 

[Monster Zero]

Ubisoft has had other 1080p titles on the Ps4. Why is it hard to believe this particular game was more demanding. Even the last assassins creed was 1080 on Ps4, but this has gone to far already, people are taking PR as the stone cold truth then dismissing words straight from the developers mouth

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

So when they showed AC:U at E3 they were bullshitting everyone?

its Ubisoft.

 

[evolution]

They've been dishonest for months lol

 

[c0de]

Now people not even remotely involved in the developing process can judge from a forum what hurdles devs had with this game? Really? Questioning even that 25 gigs is lighting data?
I wouldn't want to be a dev these times, you just can't do right.

 

[Quadraphonic]

I don't really understand games specs and all that but it's not crazy that they both have to do 900p, right? The recent XB1 footage of the game showed a fairly dodgy framerate so maybe the PS4 version is a lot more stable at 900p.

Then the Ubisoft dev should have mentioned that in this email tirade. But he doesn't.

 

[chubigans]

Baloney. We know what's really happening.






follow the money

 

[BruiserBear]

Pure, utter, BS

backing out of CPU reservations which were 30% slower and now 25% slower doesnt make the systems 1 to 2 fps differencewise

I believe he's saying a 1 to 2 fps difference for THEIR GAME. Not the consoles overall. Every engine is different, and every game pushes the hardware differently.

Then they could up the res, that is 50% wasted GPU...

What if they had the game running at 25fps at 1080p on PS4, but it runs at 45fps at 900p? At that point you lock it at 30fps and 900p. Which means there is much more overhead on the PS4, but because of them locking it down it appears the versions are identical.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

ImAllergicToBullshit.GIF

Cmon UBI, give Jim Sterling a break, will ya?

 

[Banana Aeon]

Ubisoft, just stop. For the love of God, just shut up, and stop thinking that we're idiots.

 

[jayu26]

You are not just digging a hole, you are digging your own grave Ubisoft. Stop saying anything regarding this issue.


That is, if this email is from an Ubisoft employee...which I have hard time believing.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

So when they showed AC:U at E3 they were bullshitting everyone?

Kinda like Watch_Dogs?

 

[Pastry]

This really is about to define a next gen like no other game before. Mordor has next gen system and gameplay, but not graphics like Unity does. The proof comes in that game being cross gen.

Get out of here with this crap. It's like the guy was like okay well Mordor has better gameplay systems than us but at least we have pretty graphics. Mordor was able to achieve what it did and get to 1080p.

 

[EGOMON]

Ubisoft's email guy you can go and fuck off with your bs no one is buying it and hopefully the game too

 

[benny_a]

its Ubisoft.

And Giant Bomb should confirm if that is a real developer and get one of their people to write an article that says Ubisoft employee confirms what everyone always believed: They fake their demos at E3 and they are not in real time.

Seems kind of a no-brainer article to me.

 

[DarthWalden]

Ubisoft has had other 1080p titles on the Ps4. Why is it hard to believe this particular game was more demanding. Even the last assassins creed was 1080 on Ps4, but this has gone to far already, people are taking PR as the stone cold truth then dismissing words straight from the developers mouth

Uhh, Watchdogs was 900p on PS4, but with the exception of a few people no one seemed to care then...

 

[Piggus]

Welp. He comes the armchair developers.

More like people with a brain. You don't have to be a developer to have a basic understanding of how computer components work.

 

[Sami+]

Sure seems like it.

Ubisoft is so full of shit lol

This. Ridiculous.

 

[Dysun]

All this drama over the console versions and I just want to know what to expect from another shoddy Ubi PC port ;(

 

[John Bender]

Because every game regardless of design, scale and engine CAN and MUST run at 1080p in a PS4 right? Scientific fact.

Don't get me wrong parity is bull shit, they should optimize for each system.. but this notion that every game can be 1080p on PS4... I think you guys are heading for a disappointment this gen thou..

If the Xbone can run the exact same game in 900p, well then the PS4 can run it in 1080p.

 

[BronsonLee]

More like people with a braid. You don't have to be a developer to have a basic understanding of how computer components work.

But I don't want to mess with my hair!

 

[ymmv]

Wouldn't you be if thousands of gamers lost there shit and threatened to cancel there preorder over something so trivial in the grand scheme of things?

It's not a trivial issue if MS stopped Ubisoft from making the PS4 version run in a higher resolution than the Xbox One version of the game. That's a dangerous precedent.

 

[Jhn]

All these responses, and we still don't know what's up with the resolution parity.

Yes, yes, we get it. You're CPU bound. You apparently use a lot of the CPU time to constantly load massive buffers for the GPU. You have ~25 gigs of baked GI.
None of this explains why the PS4 is not pushing more pixels. These things do not effect pixel fillrate significantly.

 

[The Llama]

If there's any truth in what he's saying (and thats a big if), sounds like they just coded it REALLY poorly by putting so much stuff on the CPU that should be on the GPU.

 

[Begaria]

Read it in this voice/tone:

 

[The Omega Man]

this year being over 900p doesn't matter, watch these same people (developers) optimize the engine for next year's game and bring it to 1080p and then say "OMG this makes so much difference, this is the REAL way to play Assassins Creed, buy our game this year!"

 

[killatopak]

Bullshit.

 

[Quadraphonic]

I think the next excuse I want is that the data fills the Blu-Ray so much that it's too heavy to spin inside the PS4 at 1080p.

It makes no sense, but they're on the fast track to stupid town with these terrible justifications.

 

[SJRB]

Makes me wonder why the boys from GiantBomb even mentioned this. Aren't they, like.. journalists? Videogame journalists?

 

[RoadHazard]

Still just a bunch of CPU and framerate talk. Which is fine, but doesn't say shit about why they couldn't get the PS4 version to run at 1080p. That's all on the GPU side!

 

[Jacob4815]

The result is amazing graphically, the depth of field and lighting effects are beyond anything you've seen on the market, and even may surpass Infamous and others.

Waiting for Uncharted 4 to stop this bullshit.

Naughty Gods, your move.

 

[JeffG]

Which makes.... no sense at all.
(or their engine sucks)

or its doing a lot. (More than these cards can handle)

 

[Astral Dog]

Wait, now Assassins Creed is fun ?

For their sake, i hope the PS4 game has better shadows, textures, and more of their famous NPC in Paris

 

[keltickennedy]

So when they showed AC:U at E3 they were bullshitting everyone?

Well....yes. I think people should know better by now and take most of what is shown at E3 with a grain of salt unfortunately.

 

[DarthWalden]

It's not a trivial issue if MS stopped Ubisoft from making the PS4 version run in a higher resolution than the Xbox One version of the game. That's a dangerous precedent.

Yeah your right.

In other news Stanley Kubrick filmed the moon landing.

 

[BajiBoxer]

I wonder hoe much less of a shitstorm this would be if they'd just said "we worked hard on this for years, and this is what we've got."

 

[orochi91]

Makes me wonder why the boys from GiantBomb even mentioned this. Aren't they, like.. journalists? Videogame journalists?

Brad is naive to the point of being absurd.

Jeff has reservations about this situation, but Brad ain't wanting to hear.

 

[family_guy]

The way I see it is that they put all their efforts into making the best game they could on Xbox One and the PS4 version was an afterthought. Kind of like having a lazy PC port.

 

[Chobel]

I believe 50% of the CPU is dedicated to helping the rendering by processing pre-packaged information, and in our case, much like Unreal 4, baked global illumination lighting.

Someone explain this to me. What exactly is the CPU is doing in this case? What is "pre-packaged information"?

 

[fedexpeon]

So they have been in developement for 4 years and only got 9fps 9 months ago?

Well, they have like 500+ people working on AC project.
I would believe anyone if they have said that Ubisoft structure is built around 1 person is assigned to 1 line of code then everyone throws their code in and hopes the game will run.
So yeah, it makes sense why it took them 4 years to get it running at 9fps.

 

[SMZC]

Keep fighting the good fight, Ubisoft. This kind of responses only serves to make me feel like I made the right call canceling Unity and buying Mordor instead. Which, by the way, is much more fun than Unity will probably ever be, considering the series' track record.

I also find it laughable that they mention that game, which manages to run at native 1080p, stating how much better their own game is, graphically, when resolution is crucial in order to truly appreciate a game's graphics. Even if Unity truly does have better graphics than Mordor I'm willing to bet that the latter looks better due to resolution alone.

 

[Gaffercake]

Are you kidding me? What a stupidly unprofessional thing to say. How are Unity's graphics next-gen in any way?

What he said was stupid yes, but this is an equally stupid thing to say. Unity looks very much next gen.

 

[BruiserBear]

Brad is naive to the point of being absurd.

Jeff has reservations about this situation, but Brad ain't wanting to hear.

Jeff expressed no reservations or doubts about this letter's authenticity. I think you were taking this "follow the money" joking last week a little too serious. lol

 

[CambriaRising]

That's a nice piece of fanfiction.

 

[RedAssedApe]

so...you'd think they would just stop talking by now

 

[orochi91]

Someone explain this to me. What exactly is the CPU is doing in this case? What is "pre-packaged information"?

Even if the CPU was rendering at that load, wtf is the rest of the GPU doing?

Either Giantbomb is being trolled or Ubisoft's engine for this game is beyond fucked.

I can't even imagine how the PC port will be.

That's a nice piece of fanfiction.

Lol seems like it.

 

[Sulik2]

If the bottleneck is the CPU then this make a lot of sense. The component that is nearly the same in both the PS4 and the XB1 is the CPU. The extra GPU power and memory in the PS4 don't matter if they are not involved in the bottleneck. Sounds reasonable to me.