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Vampire the Mafia |OT| A Game of Masquerade
- Thread starter El Topo
- Start date
you accuse blarg of role fishing, then you ask Satanic Saint if they're a cop in the same post
and your solution to mafia night killing some of the active players is to lynch the other active players lol
No one but mafia has any idea why the night kills are being picked. This is a closed setup, mafia could be choosing night kills for any number of reasons. So why, as town, would you be be trying to solve the game with information you literally can't know?
Well, please talk soon. You described 2 different powers and poisoning yesterday. I'd be all for turboing, but I have a genuine investment in you actually giving information about your alleged powers.
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CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Blargonaut (5)
Dusk Soldier .961
StMeph .962
Zubz .967 .969
Dr. Worm .974
infinit777 .978
Hobohodo .985
Satanic Saint (1)
batsnacks .983
infinit777 (0)
batsnacks .970 .983
No active vote for Day 4:
Blargonaut
Fat4all
Mazre
Satanic Saint
Timeaisis
Trigger
Ynnek7
Zubz (has previously voted)
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Automated vote tally here
8 votes for majority
Blargonaut (5)
Dusk Soldier .961
StMeph .962
Dr. Worm .974
infinit777 .978
Hobohodo .985
Satanic Saint (1)
batsnacks .983
infinit777 (0)
No active vote for Day 4:
Blargonaut
Fat4all
Mazre
Satanic Saint
Timeaisis
Trigger
Ynnek7
Zubz (has previously voted)
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
8 votes for majority
Blargonaut
Banned
The more you talk about me, the more I get the feeling you're confused, Zubz
That's a dangerous place to be in for a supposed Town Leader.
When did I mention Switching? I said Redirecting, not Switching
go back
I'd hardly call me questioning Satanic Saint about his claim role fishing.
It's frustrating because anyone who seems to have any information we can use is giving us either radio silence or static.
I also don't think it's anti-town to be pointing out my reasoning/thoughts on the night kills. My solution to the mafia night killing our active players is to try and point out who might be mafia, and right now, that just happens to be the other active players. I highly doubt the entire scum team is hiding among the inactives.
Blargonaut
Banned
stuck in reality
pls wait
pls wait
Blargonaut
Banned
VOTE: batsnacks
Trigger pretty much had the book closed on him during Day 2, once people started looking at MickD and Christina Mackenzie. I didn't think Trigger was mafia at the time, but this may be worth revisiting.
I'm guessing most of us figured he was just messing around, though being a newbie isn't much of an excuse, since he's played Town of Salem (which, to my understanding, is extremely similar to mafia).
If he's not an investigative role, whoever is probably isn't taking him seriously. If he is, it's certainly, uh, reverse psychology?
That said, his post count here is pretty tiny, and he's not giving us a ton to work with.
Y'know, I'm not sure any more. Swamped and CM were going pretty hard on him, and they both turned up town. Maybe they were on to something?
I still townread him, but not as heavily as before.
Meh.
Ynnek7 does seem to be putting in more effort now, though.
Completely skipped over him. His posts tend to be pretty solid, with some vague promises of looking back into people. Kinda like mine, I guess. I'll look into him more.
My eyes glazed over that D1 chart, but apparently people thought it was useful?
I keep mentally mixing him up with Ynnek7 because they both have "7s" at the ends of their names.
The scummiest scum that ever scammed.
x. Fat4all
clearly scum. But you can pretend that this blurb is a question asking for your opinion on him.[/QUOTE]
Oh.
He seems to have been less active recently, that's for sure. There's some equivocation in his posts, and he seems to be more following up on other people than taking an active part in scumhunting. I dunno if that's an indictment of him or what, though. His vote on D2 almost causing a tie was noted, and Ynnek7 suggested that he may be a 3rd party, though I couldn't even begin to guess whether that's valid.
Ehh, Blarg seemed very confident in the potency of the so-called poison. If he supposedly wasn't sure, there's no reason he couldn't have supposedly asked El Topo about the supposed mechanics of the supposed poison.
What would even be the point of a poison mechanic if anyone who's poisoned can just publicly claim and be healed, anyway?
Blargonaut
Banned
ohohoho, cute
I just gave Mafia-batsnacks the perfect excuse to finally stop keeping his distance from me like he's being doing since the Day started
convenient
for you
I just gave Mafia-batsnacks the perfect excuse to finally stop keeping his distance from me like he's being doing since the Day started
convenient
for you
Blargonaut
Banned
Where did you go to medical school
Blargonaut
Banned
Alright, people.
I knew that lying about dying immediately would earn me a Day-off, so to speak. So I did it.
Just so I could have an extra Night to:
A. Redirect someone.
Because, you see, I am indeed Poisoned. Fatally.
However, this Poisoning is in fact a 2-Day affair of suffering; has been since the end of N2, when I was notified as such. I lied to you about the duration. I will unquestionably and unavoidably die at the end of Today, D4, and that is no longer a lie. Because I wasn't cured last Night, fuckin' TY whoever.
But why did I really lie, you ask? My reasons for lying can't possibly be THAT surface-level, right?
Well, of course not; firstly, I decided to manipulate my unfortunate sitch into using myself as the softest of litmus tests; by lying that I was to die from the Poison a Day earlier than in actuality, I knew that I was going to survive the Day because no one would dare try to vote the literal figurative walking dead out (and you're all so predictable like that, yawn).
So, last Night, the test was in whether I would be Night-killed or not after having survived my Day of lies, which would :
So, Town, indicated by how Mafia handled the issue of moi, it's certain that you're dealing with quite a cautious Mafia team here. They know how to handle themselves, spread their votes around while keeping their heads down. Reading the past few Days over, thread activity has been a perfect Mafia-conducive storm of silence, empty suggestions and Daily symbolic pushes for dialogue that look 'Town Leader'-y per Day. If they're considered in the context of other Days, these posts lack a continuing narrative. NOTHING carries over from one Day to the next; what does that tell you?
It means that these players are BULLSHITTING you on a per-Day basis (btw, only I am allowed to use the word 'bullshit' and all its forms in [Mafia] gameplay, Dusk Soldier, cease and desist immediately). As soon as one Day's over, their reactions to the recently dead are basically a collective "Oh well" and then they move on to feeding you a fresh batch of BULLSHIT pulled out of their ass just for the new Day. All prior connections severed. And you know who has the most to gain from doing shit like this?
MAFIA DO
If I would hazard a guess, based on scrutinizing their post activity with search for narrative (or lack thereof) in mind, I'd say that--
--are your dastardly cabal of Mafia conspirators. I'd put Dr. Worm in that pool too, because of how suspiciously competent he is, and also because of his terrible last vote Yesterday on CM, defending none other than Zubz while he did it.
These 5 (6~) are the perfect Mafia blend of quiet and pushy; bats and Zubz as the aggressive 'Town Leader' faces in the open, Trigger as the opinion wildcard, and Timeaisis and StMeph as the completely under-the-radar non-entity henchmen for doing NKs. Just look at posts #945 and #947 for the D2 and D3 vote counts; look at how my Mafia suspects were so spread out on D2 because they had the luxury of a two-way Townie v. Townie fight in MickD and CM that Day. While that spread in itself is indicative of nothing suspicous, compare it to D3; where, after CM helped dig his own grave by just asking for it, Mafia had the perfect opportunity to bandwagon without fear of attentive repercussion. Look at how the votes are staggered, with Zubz and Satanic Saint together at first on D1, then making sure to distance themselves on CM on D2. Look at how bats fights so hard to lead Town to a CM lynch on D2. Look at how unjustified Trigger's final CM vote Yesterday is. Look at how unjustified Timeaisis' final CM vote Yesterday is.
Look at the current Blargwagon. Zubz already voted and quickly backed out, using this opportunity to pretend to be waiting for my exposition. Similar to what he did to me Yesterday with his "catharsis". And batsnacks, clearly you're only feigning interest in pursuing others because you know that Today is reserved for one event and one event only; the Blargwagon. You're keeping your distance with your vote, just so you can swoop in on me later with the justification of, "Oh, yeah, I looked at the others, but with no other solid leads, Blarg's sin is the greatest and he's gotta go." Mafia's just waiting for that time of Day to get in on the pile, that time of Day when anyone and everyone can self-justify their bandwagoning ass with a handwave.
And, let's not forget Trigger:
Trigger said this 1 hour before I was allegedly supposed to die from Poison.
Quite a short 'now', I'd say?
I think Trigger knew I was lying about my Poison duration, and made a Freudian slip, subconsciously dropping that he knew I was going to survive past Day's end... because he's part of the Mafia team that did this to me.
I think for sure that Trigger is Mafia, seemingly in on my Poisoning.
VOTE: Trigger
oh, and btw, I am Jeanette Voerman, you may have heard of me
I'm a Roleblocker
my pair command is SEDUCE: <player_name>, although
I've never been able to use it, since I can't use it at the same time whenever
my sister does her crummy Redirect
*pout*
yo Mazre ARE YOU READY SIS
I knew that lying about dying immediately would earn me a Day-off, so to speak. So I did it.
Just so I could have an extra Night to:
A. Redirect someone.
and
B. Await/hope/stall for a cure.Because, you see, I am indeed Poisoned. Fatally.
However, this Poisoning is in fact a 2-Day affair of suffering; has been since the end of N2, when I was notified as such. I lied to you about the duration. I will unquestionably and unavoidably die at the end of Today, D4, and that is no longer a lie. Because I wasn't cured last Night, fuckin' TY whoever.
But why did I really lie, you ask? My reasons for lying can't possibly be THAT surface-level, right?
Well, of course not; firstly, I decided to manipulate my unfortunate sitch into using myself as the softest of litmus tests; by lying that I was to die from the Poison a Day earlier than in actuality, I knew that I was going to survive the Day because no one would dare try to vote the literal figurative walking dead out (and you're all so predictable like that, yawn).
So, last Night, the test was in whether I would be Night-killed or not after having survived my Day of lies, which would :
- If it was Mafia who had Poisoned me; the instant they saw my 'imminent Poison death' claim Yesterday, they would immediately know I was lying about the duration (since they had done it to me themselves, they would know the correct details of course). So, as is expected, they'd all be perfectly fine hiding in amongst the crowd of benefit-of-doubt givers, which they indeed did Yesterday.
They wouldn't bother to attack me that Night either, since they knew I was already dead anyway. And since that Night was last Night, and I'm not dead, this must mean that it was the Mafia who Poisoned me, confirmed.
Also, their Poisoning was likely a 1-shot Power use, since nobody else these past few Days has come forward to say that they were also Poisoned. I'm the first-and-only victim, it seems.
- If it was a Neutral or a Town-aligned player who had Poisoned me; once Mafia saw that I had survived the Day thereby confirming that I was lying, I would have stricken a fair amount of suspicion into their hearts that I was a PR (besides my claiming to be a Redirector, of course) stalling for time to use my Power(s). So, last Night, if they were a less thoughtful and enterprising team, they would've debated straight-up killing me to eliminate me as a threat (which would decidedly be a Bad move for them, since keeping a semi-confirmed-as liar around for the next Day as a free sacrifice to Town is in their best interests); despite my having claimed being Poisoned, they could have totally gone through with killing me, if I had instilled sufficient doubt of my Poisoned status in them via my quasi-debunked lie. Therefore, if they had killed me last Night, you'd know that it was a Neutral or Town-aligned player who had Poisoned me.
However, after my lie and subsequent loss of credibility Yesterday, a smarter Mafia team that, despite not being responsible for Poisoning me, would take the chance Yesterday to keep me alive to Today as said sacrifice (which they have apparently done), and possibly Roleblocked me last Night (if they had a Roleblocker in their ranks) as a precaution.
Therefore, it could've been a Neutral or Town-aligned player who Poisoned me, and Mafia's simply taking advantage of Yesterday's intentional self-inflicted loss of credibility to get a free lunch Today, confirmed.
So, Town, indicated by how Mafia handled the issue of moi, it's certain that you're dealing with quite a cautious Mafia team here. They know how to handle themselves, spread their votes around while keeping their heads down. Reading the past few Days over, thread activity has been a perfect Mafia-conducive storm of silence, empty suggestions and Daily symbolic pushes for dialogue that look 'Town Leader'-y per Day. If they're considered in the context of other Days, these posts lack a continuing narrative. NOTHING carries over from one Day to the next; what does that tell you?
It means that these players are BULLSHITTING you on a per-Day basis (btw, only I am allowed to use the word 'bullshit' and all its forms in [Mafia] gameplay, Dusk Soldier, cease and desist immediately). As soon as one Day's over, their reactions to the recently dead are basically a collective "Oh well" and then they move on to feeding you a fresh batch of BULLSHIT pulled out of their ass just for the new Day. All prior connections severed. And you know who has the most to gain from doing shit like this?
MAFIA DO
If I would hazard a guess, based on scrutinizing their post activity with search for narrative (or lack thereof) in mind, I'd say that--
Timeaisis
StMeph
Trigger
Zubz
batsnacks
StMeph
Trigger
Zubz
batsnacks
--are your dastardly cabal of Mafia conspirators. I'd put Dr. Worm in that pool too, because of how suspiciously competent he is, and also because of his terrible last vote Yesterday on CM, defending none other than Zubz while he did it.
These 5 (6~) are the perfect Mafia blend of quiet and pushy; bats and Zubz as the aggressive 'Town Leader' faces in the open, Trigger as the opinion wildcard, and Timeaisis and StMeph as the completely under-the-radar non-entity henchmen for doing NKs. Just look at posts #945 and #947 for the D2 and D3 vote counts; look at how my Mafia suspects were so spread out on D2 because they had the luxury of a two-way Townie v. Townie fight in MickD and CM that Day. While that spread in itself is indicative of nothing suspicous, compare it to D3; where, after CM helped dig his own grave by just asking for it, Mafia had the perfect opportunity to bandwagon without fear of attentive repercussion. Look at how the votes are staggered, with Zubz and Satanic Saint together at first on D1, then making sure to distance themselves on CM on D2. Look at how bats fights so hard to lead Town to a CM lynch on D2. Look at how unjustified Trigger's final CM vote Yesterday is. Look at how unjustified Timeaisis' final CM vote Yesterday is.
Look at the current Blargwagon. Zubz already voted and quickly backed out, using this opportunity to pretend to be waiting for my exposition. Similar to what he did to me Yesterday with his "catharsis". And batsnacks, clearly you're only feigning interest in pursuing others because you know that Today is reserved for one event and one event only; the Blargwagon. You're keeping your distance with your vote, just so you can swoop in on me later with the justification of, "Oh, yeah, I looked at the others, but with no other solid leads, Blarg's sin is the greatest and he's gotta go." Mafia's just waiting for that time of Day to get in on the pile, that time of Day when anyone and everyone can self-justify their bandwagoning ass with a handwave.
And, let's not forget Trigger:
Trigger said this 1 hour before I was allegedly supposed to die from Poison.
Quite a short 'now', I'd say?
I think Trigger knew I was lying about my Poison duration, and made a Freudian slip, subconsciously dropping that he knew I was going to survive past Day's end... because he's part of the Mafia team that did this to me.
I think for sure that Trigger is Mafia, seemingly in on my Poisoning.
VOTE: Trigger
oh, and btw, I am Jeanette Voerman, you may have heard of me
I'm a Roleblocker
my pair command is SEDUCE: <player_name>, although
I've never been able to use it, since I can't use it at the same time whenever
my sister does her crummy Redirect
*pout*
yo Mazre ARE YOU READY SIS
Blargonaut
Banned
...and?
Blargonaut
Banned
Mazre
Where is our Role-claim
Where is our Role-claim
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
always business
no time even for your own Jeanette
*sigh*
no time even for your own Jeanette
*sigh*
Blargonaut
Banned
I had such a nice Day planned for us
Blargonaut
Banned
Mazre
Mazre
I expect our full Role-claim when you get back, Mazre
Mazre
Mazre
I expect our full Role-claim when you get back, Mazre
Mazre
Blargonaut
Banned
pls stand by
Blargonaut
Banned
...while we await my dearest sister--
oh, CM was... Town, yeah?
reasoning against me, being used as irrelevant, non-explanatory filler text for his CM vote
a fake-out, voting against me as if he didn't think it through, then using his "realization" as an excuse to shift his vote to CM
and two scoops of ice-cold BS
These players are being sloppy on purpose, because they know Town's so much of a non-entity as a cohesive team in this game that they don't need to bother covering their tracks.
MUCH
MAFIA
oh, CM was... Town, yeah?
reasoning against me, being used as irrelevant, non-explanatory filler text for his CM vote
a fake-out, voting against me as if he didn't think it through, then using his "realization" as an excuse to shift his vote to CM
and two scoops of ice-cold BS
These players are being sloppy on purpose, because they know Town's so much of a non-entity as a cohesive team in this game that they don't need to bother covering their tracks.
MUCH
MAFIA
Blargonaut
Banned
Persona [Mafia] talking about the importance of narrative as if they know
Blargonaut
Banned
using precious minutes of my final Day in this game to throw shade at other games
worth it
worth it
Blargonaut
Banned
What do you mean
Dusk Soldier
Member
I don't think you can on Gaf
Dusk Soldier
Member
let's lynch Trigger! Blarg is right about going day by day I like it
Today
Today
Yesterday
Dusk Soldier
Member
First of all Blarg, How dare you!
How dare you try to censor my posts.
I don't know how things work in whatever European country your from, but in Canada (aka the land of freedom) people here say whatever the fuck they want, to whoever the fuck they want to.
And I know you're lying about being poisoned. You're just trying to extend your gameplay one more day, and we're not falling for it again.
I agree that Trigger is shady as fuck. But if both Mazre/Batsnacks are willing to throw him under the bus like this after the stunt they pulled to save him D1.
I have to conclude that you're either working with them, or they are manipulating you.
How dare you try to censor my posts.
I don't know how things work in whatever European country your from, but in Canada (aka the land of freedom) people here say whatever the fuck they want, to whoever the fuck they want to.
And I know you're lying about being poisoned. You're just trying to extend your gameplay one more day, and we're not falling for it again.
I agree that Trigger is shady as fuck. But if both Mazre/Batsnacks are willing to throw him under the bus like this after the stunt they pulled to save him D1.
I have to conclude that you're either working with them, or they are manipulating you.
Blargonaut
Banned
sry
You know, you're supposed to not BELIEVE me the third time I cry Werewolf, not the second
But it's okay, Dusk.
I'm already dead, it's okay to already be in denial
Mazre? Manipulating me?
and no, Mr. b and I aren't a thing, Harley Quinn I ain't
Dusk Soldier
Member
But how do we know that it's not a mixed-alignment chat?
I'm Therese Voerman, baroness of Santa Monica.
Blarg and I are sisters (lovers), we're two personalities in one vampire.
I can redirect one player to another, Blarg can role block, only one of us may act at night.
Blarg was poisoned night 2 and we'll die at the end of the day phase today.
Blarg and I are sisters (lovers), we're two personalities in one vampire.
I can redirect one player to another, Blarg can role block, only one of us may act at night.
Blarg was poisoned night 2 and we'll die at the end of the day phase today.
I didn't consider that actually
Dusk Soldier
Member
Why didn't anything happen when you redirected batsnacks to Trigger?
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/22/224922/2661058-0029778094-tumbl.png
Huh... the bolded sentence... And now with this claim...
Care to explain this, then? Without making this page a slog to read through, this time?
You guys are being very unclear about your actions and how you've used them. We know the role is that we either get Blarg swapping or Mazre blocking. I want you both to be 100% honest about this: How did you two use your powers?
Huh... the bolded sentence... And now with this claim...
Care to explain this, then? Without making this page a slog to read through, this time?
You guys are being very unclear about your actions and how you've used them. We know the role is that we either get Blarg swapping or Mazre blocking. I want you both to be 100% honest about this: How did you two use your powers?
Oh yeah, this too. I'm not 100% on you being Vampire or... Bad Vampire, but I'm certain you're both just a pair of living contradictions.