Iacobellis
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The US Vita launch is a close second.
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VGLeaks: PlayStation 4 "Orbis" Roadmap
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The US Vita launch is a close second.
Uno Venova
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I don't see great ram and large SSD drives happening. I just think they'll do a 128/250 GB of HDD models.
I think you will see larger drives than that because of the push for DD. I see like 250/500 for base and premium models. I see sony really pushing PS+ and you need a large drive for that if the targe for all games is bluray in size.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Is the Vita doom and gloom just a joke at this point? I haven't followed the Vita not even once since it launched and honestly don't have any idea of its success until hearing about its amazing launch lineup right now.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I also expect this , the biggest HDD you see in PS3 will be normal for PS4 if they have 2 version of the system .
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Good system, good games, bad support and bad timing.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
If Sony had launched it in 2010, then it would be faring better.
pharmboy044
Member
I got some bad news for you. This will not be the case.
I hope people know, when people say no BC, they mean completely. No retail or digital.
what heck are you typing about?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Perfect summary
Dr.Palutena
Member
I'd say it also has a niche target demographic (and misguided marketing directed towards said demographic) and less than stellar pricing both in hardware(and accessories) and games(this is also a 3ds problem obviously) , most of the good and great games aren't things that would appeal to mainstream demographics, though they do appeal to people like me a great deal.
Syphon Filter
Member
I don't see how they cant have it if WiiU has it.
pharmboy044
Member
No confirmation but in the other thread, they're adamant that there will be no BC, retail or digital. If you think about it it makes sense. In either case you're still using the PS3 hardware to run the software. Why would one work and not the other?
Zoe
Member
Emulating a Wii game is nothing like emulating a PS3 game.
More or less sent to die against a 3DS that was just starting to ramp up saleswise.
Syphon Filter
Member
No I wouldn't even call it that. The 3DS price cut right before launch definitely made the Vita look too expensive and then the proprietary memory cards just made things worse. Sony's reluctance to drop prices is killing it currently at the moment as we just had a drop in sales from Nov to Dec.
The launch 60 and 20 gig had full PS2 hardware on board. The follow up 80 gig had the graphics unit of the PS2 and emulated the CPU. Units after that had no backwards compatibility with the PS2.
It was released a couple of days after Mario kart 7 and after Monster Hunter Tri G in December in Japan.
If that isn't sending something to die in Japan then i don't know what else would qualify.
EDIT: The 3DS price drop definitely did affect it as well. Nintendo essentially pulled a reverse of what Sony did during the GCN launch in Japan.
Syphon Filter
Member
Yea but you can play the ps2 classics that are available to download on the slim? how come?
The only PS2 games on PSN are HD ports, ie. companies put work into them and recompile them for PS3. Same reason there is some PS2 classics on the X360.
Syphon Filter
Member
Odin sphere is a ps2 port and not in hd.
Just need a price cut and Jack Tretton to be fired
pharmboy044
Member
I think they figured out how to emulate those particular games. Emulating PS3 games is gonna be a much more difficult task.
This is not correct. There's a "PS2 Classics" line available for download on PSN.
It was never formally announced, the first we heard of it was when they snuck a mention of it at the bottom of a PS+ blog post. I think they were worried about people getting mad that they're not enabling emulation of existing PS2 discs.
SuicideUZI
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whoever loses, AMD wins
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
MS need a system seller game. Really with this type of schedule, they gotta be targeting a Halo 2 anniversary type game.
Fuck it Im calling it.
Halo 2 anniversary November 2014
Halo 5 November 2015
Fuck it Im calling it.
Halo 2 anniversary November 2014
Halo 5 November 2015
thehypocrite
Member
I think that's likely.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Fuck it, if they put the multiplayer in fully, and dont go the CE route of a map pack for the current game (Halo 4) then they have me buying their console.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
I think it'd be cool if the PS4 looked just like the original Playstation, except bigger of course and black in color. A big black box shape thing like that would just seem so powerful and would give off the vibe of being a monster of a console.
Snowden's Secret
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CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Digital back compat is the most important for consumer confidence in the Store, I think. Supporting discs not so.
Also: Why are there two threads discussing the same stuff? Makes it a pain to keep track of.
timetokill
Banned
Nah. The platform is basically dead in the water. Not like, "they could turn this ship around" dead, more like "it's done for" dead. The sales numbers are historically bad.
Ultimately it's a platform that the market simply has no desire for. It's somewhat baffling that Sony would have even put the platform out, but I guess their arrogance prevented them from seeing the writing on the wall.
pharmboy044
Member
Yeah it's very important but I don't think either boxes will have BC.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
They launched it because it's the successor to the PSP and Japan has a hard-on for portables and bought like 20 million of them and despite being deemed a "failure" a lot, it sold like 70 million units worldwide. The PSP was 7 years old and Nintendo had launched the 3DS $250 themselves, so Sony announced the same price at that time for a more hardware capable device; some arrogance.
What were they going to do? Not follow up on the PSP when it made them money?
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
The handheld market is majorly dominated by kids. Kids want nintendos. I know i did when i was younger. It really is that simple and explains the sales statistics of both systems.
Kids want whatever is cool at the time. Babies aren't genetically programmed to want Nintendo products, haha.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
I CANNOT wait to see Killzone 4 running on PS4. Jesus Christ, this is way too much I need a moment...life is so surreal right now with next gen being right around the corner and folks chomping at the bit to spew info. Hopefully PS4 will be as promising as specs and our hopes lead us to believe. Also I think I may just jump in for PS+ this gen. The only things Sony needs now are a good pricepoint (with great specs of course), a solid launch lineup with great games being released at increasing momentum and backwards compatibility. All my wishes would come true
HomerSimpson-Man
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Sony apparently has a working PS2 emulator for the PS3, the thing is games have to be checked on a game to game basis to make sure it passes muster for releases as we all know PS2 hardware is quite exotic which is quite different from HD releases. When we thought the PS3 emulation was impossible, apparently Sony didn't stop trying and are much further along than we thought.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
That'd be hilarious if Guerilla actually went through with that. They showed KZ2's cg debut running entirely on PS4 in complete realtime and then after that ended we'd be treated to the actual KZ4 reveal with it being played live. It'd be a nice way of saying "this is PS4 and this is what it can do, and this is a launch game/only the beginning."
Enter The 36 Chambers
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They may as well be though. I dont think ive ever seen a kid with a vita over a 3ds.
Although to be fair ive never seen anyone with a Vita
Perfect.
Except, in everything except destruction physics and debris, KZ3 already outdoes that CG render. The CG render looks quite barren and sterile in comparison
That doesn't change this FACT at all:
z0m3le said:
IE, if PS4 ends up with a 4 core AMD processor, it will have 4 threads. That is simply the reality of AMD's Processors, they do not do multiple threads on a single core, and in some ways the 4 cores end up with less resources than previous AMD architectures, because they share components in "modules" which are 2 cores that share a "body", that is what the OP mentioned with "2 paired cores"
The game came close enough http://youtu.be/eFh1o2DVhcs?t=13s
They need to do something else really cool though that makes you think it's CG and then when it's over and crowd goes bonkers, show it's realtime by playing around with at least the camera to prove it.