Ravensmash
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Ooo...what a horrible policy. It's good to streamline that process for established devs on the store, but to skip it completely is dangerous for consumers. Sort it out Valve...
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WarZ pulled from Steam (for now)
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Ooo...what a horrible policy. It's good to streamline that process for established devs on the store, but to skip it completely is dangerous for consumers. Sort it out Valve...
MrPing1000
Member
I like to imagine Rocket giving a big gut laugh upon reading this news.
SpaceDrake
Member
Knew they'd make it right.
IonicSnake
Banned
"IT IS DONE."
Where is this from? Gabe looks mad.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Valve can make this cockup of their stewardship of front-page store items up to me by splitting/categorizing their Greenlight queue into genres rather than make less popular niche titles forever sit in line dozens of positions behind tower defense clones and pixel art indie things.
PINBALL GODDAMNIT
YianGaruga
Banned
I'd love to see the approval process that actually allowed the game on Steam in the first place.
This seems really shady.
This seems really shady.
maabus1999
Member
Wonder how much the name confusion (WarZ =/= DayZ) is going to hurt the DayZ brand. Just like a lot of people though this might have been a DayZ sequel or related product, the fallout may leave a taint a future DayZ product where many customers still do not see the difference clearly.
Really surprised the DayZ folks do not have a lawyer.
Really surprised the DayZ folks do not have a lawyer.
PhoenixDawn
Member
I know the quote has already been bolded a few times in this thread but it's so bad it bears repeating.
So they're saying they're sorry, but not for putting out a bad game or outright lying about its features on the Steam page. Instead, they're sorry that the people who read the page took what it said literally and to be a true description of the game. Clearly they were supposed to know that "up to 100 players" really means that there can only be 50 as 50 players is included in the statement "up to 100 players".
So they're saying they're sorry, but not for putting out a bad game or outright lying about its features on the Steam page. Instead, they're sorry that the people who read the page took what it said literally and to be a true description of the game. Clearly they were supposed to know that "up to 100 players" really means that there can only be 50 as 50 players is included in the statement "up to 100 players".
Visualante2
Member
I wonder if they will they keep the original release date so it sinks down the new releases chart upon return, so it gets less exposure for fucking up so bad the first time around.
iNvid02
Member
thanks for the info. i can see why they have their process setup like that, never seen this level of shadiness before
Palette Swap
Member
That backhanded apology. I hope for these fuckers their shit bombs.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Do credit Kotaku for it since they got the response:
http://kotaku.com/5969836/the-war-z-removed-from-steam
WarZ and its trailer STILL show up when you search for DayZ.
Or, uh, if you type the letter "h" into the search box on the front page and wait a second.
ChosenPredator
Banned
that totalbiscuit guy seems to have enough power to make games or destroy them I know others have been saying it but when a video from him comes out it seems to have a domino effect lol
I hope everyone is wise enough now not to buy into this tripe for a second time when it eventually comes back.
Good to see something was actually done.
I can't say this enough, so once again, go fuck yourself Sergey Titov, you piece of shit.
Good to see something was actually done.
I can't say this enough, so once again, go fuck yourself Sergey Titov, you piece of shit.
There was a massive outcry before the video posted. He certainly made a dent, though.
razgriz417
Member
His video (quicklooks) have a ton of weight due to his large youtube and twitter following. I tend to agree with his opinions most of the time
I haven't watch or follow this guy's video at all but people were outrage before he made any video about the situation. Of course from what I understand, he did help push further the cause of the matter.
Edit: Seems I'm not the only who shares the same sentiment, good.
I think you're giving TB a little too much credit here. He has some influence for sure, but given the state the game was released in the customer backlash was inevitable.
Do you think the game will ever make it back on Steam? I'd be willing to bet no. That game is toxic now.
The problem with that article is that we've already seen games relegated to Greenlight even though the developer has other games on Steam. See: Primordia from Wadjet Eye Games
balladofwindfishes
Member
Yep, I think they'll leave the page up for a few months and quietly remove it one day when nobody will care or even notice.
maabus1999
Member
Haha, so the endgame is Valve apologizes for "releasing a product too soon on accident," issues refunds if you want one, pulls product from being able to be purchased until a "new build from the developer" is ready, etc...
Now the real drama we may never know: Will Steam get money back it sent off to WarZ Devs for all the "refunded" purchases or is WarZ going to go shady and say "no way, our money now?"
Now the real drama we may never know: Will Steam get money back it sent off to WarZ Devs for all the "refunded" purchases or is WarZ going to go shady and say "no way, our money now?"
They gave Steam a black eye, of course were not gonna see this game or developer back in the store front to sell their games anymore.
balladofwindfishes
Member
there's a month or two lag before developers get paid, so they can easily just remove the money
Nabs
Member
They never sent money off in the first place. They cut a check every month.
Backfoggen
Banned
I was thinking about this as well. Surely Steam has some sort of language in their contract with publishers/developers that entitles refunds when justified. I guess the question is whether Valve pulled the game for a legally defensible reason, or they just decided to eat the cost to preserve their goodwill.
Christmas spirit is in the air
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Valve will offer refunds in Steam Wallet funds the DAY BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS SALE.
It's a motherfucking conspiracy.
It's a motherfucking conspiracy.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Bada bing bada boom. Just like that.
He looked mad at the Spike VGAs too. Every fiber of his love goes into Valve and Steam.
He looked mad at the Spike VGAs too. Every fiber of his love goes into Valve and Steam.
LumpOfCole
Member
If that happened, then my jimmies would ascend to a rustle so high in the heavens that they would need to bring a poet.
The mayans predicted this.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Garry don't take shit from anyone.
Maybe War Z is a Half-Life 3 ARG announcement event??!
Opus Angelorum
Member
I've just registered on their forums, stay tuned
Mavromatis
Member
Thanks for that, I was worried about someone getting the game on Winter Sale and gifting it to me thus forever haunting my Steam library.
I doubt this will stop WarZ people from going on but it'll hit them a bit. And with everybody saying that a gamer should have done its research before buying a game, I say, so should Valve before giving them a license to Steam.
Let me recap my emotions towards both parties included in this incident, Valve and Hammerpoint.
I doubt this will stop WarZ people from going on but it'll hit them a bit. And with everybody saying that a gamer should have done its research before buying a game, I say, so should Valve before giving them a license to Steam.
Let me recap my emotions towards both parties included in this incident, Valve and Hammerpoint.
Unfortunately they've already proven quite skilled at using bad PR to their advantage. They are like the Lindsay Lohan of the game industry.
Not only the state the game was in but the blatantly deceitful way in which it was promoted too. Disappointing to see Valve lending any legitimacy to this sort of practice by having it on their service at all, no matter how it happened, but at least they're dealing with it now and issuing refunds.
I understand Valve's policy is to be unobtrusive to developers but there should be some checks in place to at least ensure a game is presented accurately and truthfully.
plagiarize
Banned
And every developer with a finished working well reviewed game that has been forced to try to get onto Steam through greenlight is left shaking their heads.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Good. That interview was disgusting.
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