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Werewolf |OT| Was it all just a Dream?
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Lollipop Dave
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Yep, got to bake those goods nice and early.
As for reads and discussion, nothing new that is relative has been posted since I last looked. So on that note
VOTE: Style
CrimsonFist
Member
I just woke up. Don't really have anything to say though.
Dave/Crimson thanks for volunteering
CrimsonFist
I see you gave some reads quite recently, but can you give me your opinion of Flux? You've commented that he is posting less frequently this time, but what do you think about the actual content of his posts? What do you think is his alignment?
CrimsonFist
I see you gave some reads quite recently, but can you give me your opinion of Flux? You've commented that he is posting less frequently this time, but what do you think about the actual content of his posts? What do you think is his alignment?
Boo Boo'n for the reasons I stated in this post.
I feel like I know exactly how CornBro felt about me last game, because I think I feel exactly the same about him this game. It feels like a hollow husk of a town, as opposed to a real one. I also don't agree with this new Deputy plan, mainly because deadlines very rarely go smoothly here, and also I feel this plan shouldn't even be discussed this early on considering we have 29 players.
I'm suspicious of Lollipop Dave because of the high fluff, but he has posted some things in there. He's lower down the list.
lesser suspicious people include Flux (change in attitude this game), batsnacks (has been quieter than usual, thanksgiving related?), ultron (sleepwalker claim and just his general low post count) and swamped (she seems to be playing more like how I saw her in games as mafia rather than the two as town, but theres not too much here)
I currently think you're town (I still hate you), CrimsonFist I also like, Xam had the weird double claim, but has been beneficial in discussions. I also like Zipped so far.
Drop as well, obviously. Is drop planning this lynch plan straight from the off? I still think there's merit in doing votes just now, it gives us more data to analyse while the double vote power is not particularly useful.
That's about it for reads off the top of my head.
CrimsonFist
Member
Flux seems to have almost exclusively commented on the sheriff/deputy issue, which isn't in itself suspicious, seeing as it's been a hot topic. I don't really see anything there that stands out as a major scumtell, and he did propose the best solution we have to the deputy issue.
I guess neutral for now. Seeing as the last game was his first, and he pretty much got himself killed by being so active, I don't want to put too much weight on him trying to reign it in a bit, but I would like to hear his stance on a few more non-deputy issues.
CornBurrito
Member
That's real fucking disappointing to hear Cabot. But I won't hold it against you. I do however want to ask you this: You say you are mildly suspicious of Flux because of his change in attitude. But Darryl isn't listed as suspicious to you, yet he's acting like a completely different person. Why are you not suspicious of Darryl?
Lollipop Dave
Member
I don't have any fluffy bread, just crusty loafs.
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So what's decided with the Sherif issue? Are we just letting Drop run with it and see how it rolls?
He's different from last game, but last game he went as town leader. That was unique, this play seems more like what I expect from him, though I don't read him as town or scum. it's a bit of a null currently.
Just to clarify, by "neutral" do you mean you don't have any strong read either way or do you specifically think he might be a neutral (ie not town or scum aligned) role
We have two very safe lynch candidates. Either we decide to go the safe route or we believe them for now. In the latter case we need an alternative candidate and I have expressed how little I think of reading Day 1 behaviour. While there are certainly players I find suspicious, I wouldn't accuse them just because of some post that might very well be harmless. In other words I'd rather not deliver another candidate, but anyone is of course free to do so and convince us.
As for the whole deputy thing, I'm not sure if it's all that important and ultimately Drop gets to make the decision anyway. If Drop lives, they found another target more important, if he dies someone else becomes sheriff. I honestly haven't given it enough thought to see whether we can use this whole stuff to our advantage. I assume that whoever succeeds Drop will be suspicious the longer he lives (and of course by the very nature of the game), so it seems like a risk-reward endeavour for them. As sheriff they get another vote, but the longer their player lives, the more suspicious he might become.
I probably missed something. Again, haven't really thought it through. Either way, happy now cabot?
Yeah, actually. Thanks.
CornBurrito
Member
CrimsonFist
Member
No strong read either way right now.
His aggression was typical. Taking the lead wasn't.
Seriously, where the hell is RNH
Xamtheking
Member
Jail
(Do you get the reference)
Lollipop Dave
Member
no, please explain.
Xamtheking
Member
Back in last game, Makai was jailed n1 and Palmer told the scum(Makai was scum) Makai was literally in jail
He knows lol
You've really thrown integrity aside to make this point
If Ultron was scum, I think this would be because those disinformation roles are let slide by a lot of people here really easy. He could potentially get away with something like single handedly delivering all his teams kills for a long time before found out.
Ugh this is valid, and ultron hasnt really contributed so far. I don't know, I still feel going for him today would be the safe option, but currently i dont have any strong leads for scum.
Yep. Additionally, Xam's reveal seems to preclude him from being Town if Ultron is scum. Let's test him first.
I was doing holiday stuff yesterday and will be driving home for a good portion of today. So I won't be around a ton today. Should be on tomorrow.
Current feelings, off the top of my head after a quick read:
Darryl - Certainly acting different this game but I don't really see that as much of a tell. I almost feel like if he was Scum he'd be trying harder to be acting the same way he was last time.
Who to suspect - Feels like there are a ton of people barely posting right now. The US holiday probably explains. There are so many people in this game that I suspect most of the wolves are hiding in the crowd. Besides Darryl, most players that *are* posting are basically playing to their usual parts. So nothing stands out right now.
Deputy musings - I guess I'd rather try and keep the double vote power alive then kill it. If wolves get it it's not like they can blatantly abuse it or pass it to another wolf without arousing a ton of suspicion.
Current feelings, off the top of my head after a quick read:
Darryl - Certainly acting different this game but I don't really see that as much of a tell. I almost feel like if he was Scum he'd be trying harder to be acting the same way he was last time.
Who to suspect - Feels like there are a ton of people barely posting right now. The US holiday probably explains. There are so many people in this game that I suspect most of the wolves are hiding in the crowd. Besides Darryl, most players that *are* posting are basically playing to their usual parts. So nothing stands out right now.
Deputy musings - I guess I'd rather try and keep the double vote power alive then kill it. If wolves get it it's not like they can blatantly abuse it or pass it to another wolf without arousing a ton of suspicion.
CornBurrito
Member
He isn't being aggressive at all either.
alright, so there's this idea that we should vote for the next deputy. I don't feel strongly against the idea. It would really suck if we give mafia the double vote...especially if the game comes down to the wire. I guess if we make it a public vote then there would be at least something we can glean from.
If we hold the public vote on who gets deputized...lol I don't know who. Safest choice at the moment might be one of the switchers...but I can't be even be 100 percent sure (Xam or Ultron could be playing some bold game, I guess).
Hmm, who hasn't posted yet? I'm gonna check brb
If we hold the public vote on who gets deputized...lol I don't know who. Safest choice at the moment might be one of the switchers...but I can't be even be 100 percent sure (Xam or Ultron could be playing some bold game, I guess).
Hmm, who hasn't posted yet? I'm gonna check brb
Come on CB, these are all posts I'd expect from Darryl, it's there.
I highlighted this yesterday, kitty. Terrible kitty. The worst kitty.
I hate you, kitty.
Though I am thankful you prodded Questionbro, I can't do two at once and I thought asking someone else to would be a bit controlling.
Still, terrible kitty.
I welcome your thanks.
Checking in. I don't have much to say and it doesn't seem like much happened overnight.
I'm just re-stating my views here, but I think the deputy vote idea is better left for later days if at all, when scum getting their hands on it is more of a threat. At this point what would be the advantage for scum to have it? If anything I think being a wolf deputy/sheriff would be more of a liability for them this early on since it puts them in the spotlight, they can't really deputize a fellow wolf in fear of it leading to a lynch-chain, and a double vote isn't that strong in a 25+ player game. If the power *can* be removed from the game by whatever method, then I'd consider it after the halfway point or something like that so it doesn't become a liability for us.
About Xam and Ultron, I agree if one of them was guaranteed to be scum, I'd place my bets on Xam. I'm skeptical though, and wonder if it'd be best to just vote an inactive out and trim the game a bit. I guess thanksgiving/black friday stuff may be keeping them from posting, but I also don't like the idea of scum coasting under the radar which sounds like an easy strategy in a 29-player game.
I'm just re-stating my views here, but I think the deputy vote idea is better left for later days if at all, when scum getting their hands on it is more of a threat. At this point what would be the advantage for scum to have it? If anything I think being a wolf deputy/sheriff would be more of a liability for them this early on since it puts them in the spotlight, they can't really deputize a fellow wolf in fear of it leading to a lynch-chain, and a double vote isn't that strong in a 25+ player game. If the power *can* be removed from the game by whatever method, then I'd consider it after the halfway point or something like that so it doesn't become a liability for us.
About Xam and Ultron, I agree if one of them was guaranteed to be scum, I'd place my bets on Xam. I'm skeptical though, and wonder if it'd be best to just vote an inactive out and trim the game a bit. I guess thanksgiving/black friday stuff may be keeping them from posting, but I also don't like the idea of scum coasting under the radar which sounds like an easy strategy in a 29-player game.
So, an inactive is good, or an active who hasn't contributed. I'm avoiding inactives for the replacement list (Bring Back Burb!) but yeah I am currently looking at these.
CB is iffy to me, but I don't get strong scum, just weirdness and light suspicion. Nowhere near enough to justify eliminating one of our highest posters this early.
I'll form a list of inactives/unhelpful from the 29 who I shall be considering voting for by deadline if nothing else big occurs.
I wanted to make a reads list but I'm not sure if I have enough time to right now, and I'm not sure how useful it will be. Instead I'll post of list of people I am currently unwilling to vote for:
CrimsonFist - feels active and contributive in a Towny way
Xam - Between ultron and Xam I actually feel much better about Xam. His reaction to Ultron's claim seems far to genuine and didn't feel 'calculated'
Lollipop Dave -
His posting is quite fluffy and I doubt scum would post like this
Splinter - He's playing in a towny-town way, which, according to logic means he's scum
. But I'm still getting town vibes from him, just a different town playstyle than usual
Boo Boo'n/B] - Tbh I haven't gone back through his posts, but I remember he asked to be deputized. See my previous statements, but essentially not sure if wolves would do that. I'll note that he was the 3rd to ask though.
Darryl - Sure, he's quieter and not as pugnacious but today he feels town. There are a plethora of reasons he could have changed his playstyle. In the previous game he was specifically trying to get night killed, and it would have worked.
I would need to look through everyone else's posts to make a good decision about who to vote for.
CrimsonFist - feels active and contributive in a Towny way
Xam - Between ultron and Xam I actually feel much better about Xam. His reaction to Ultron's claim seems far to genuine and didn't feel 'calculated'
Lollipop Dave -
He bribed me with almond croissants
Splinter - He's playing in a towny-town way, which, according to logic means he's scum
. But I'm still getting town vibes from him, just a different town playstyle than usualBoo Boo'n/B] - Tbh I haven't gone back through his posts, but I remember he asked to be deputized. See my previous statements, but essentially not sure if wolves would do that. I'll note that he was the 3rd to ask though.
Darryl - Sure, he's quieter and not as pugnacious but today he feels town. There are a plethora of reasons he could have changed his playstyle. In the previous game he was specifically trying to get night killed, and it would have worked.
I would need to look through everyone else's posts to make a good decision about who to vote for.
Was unaware of that! That's good.
I'm not going to read into them so early because I'm leaning on those claims to be lies just to throw us off. Can you think of any other reason as to why they would admit they are sleepwalkers so early? At any rate, I believe that at least one of them is telling the truth.
If I recall correctly you were one of the first votes in the beginning of the phase without any rhyme or reason explaining as to why you would put Splinter on the vote. I'm going through your posts now, and there's nothing there for me to consider that the Splinter vote is nothing more than a joke.
Yeah, no. It's a good thing someone Pro Town has the title of Sheriff, and the reasons why are because of what you listed above. All of those scum with eyes on one guy? Giving the others who may or may not have PRs breathing room? It helps town even at the cost of one of the townies going down for the sake of it.
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I don't know what 'red flags' you see in my fumbles of posts, but hey. I can justify my questions, reads and thought processes throughout the game without a worry.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Gonna go back and re-read the thread, but I have some thoughts on CB. I don't really get the scum vibe from him. If I had to make an early guess, it would probably be a neutral trying to kill Darryl, but it's not a hard guess by any stretch of the means.
CrimsonFist
Member
I'm not sure that I get an overly negative vibe from CornBurrito. He's one of the more active posters at the very least, so I'd be reluctant to vote for him this early on.
But then I'm also only really familiar with Darryl from this game and the last game, so I'm just taking people's word here for it as to how he usually acts, so I'm probably not the best judge on this issue.
I'd like to hear some of the least active posters contribute, otherwise I'd be leaning towards going for one of those, but there's still a good amount of time left in the day.
But then I'm also only really familiar with Darryl from this game and the last game, so I'm just taking people's word here for it as to how he usually acts, so I'm probably not the best judge on this issue.
I'd like to hear some of the least active posters contribute, otherwise I'd be leaning towards going for one of those, but there's still a good amount of time left in the day.
It is funny that you're calling me scum because i'm not being aggressive and another guy (lollipop dave) is calling me aggressive because i'm being aggressive. I want to say stuff about your past playstyles too, but I'm not. This isn't fun and I don't care if it leads to mafia if it is going to bog the game down. At least attempt to make this game approachable for new players and outsiders to get interested. I'll follow this with what I think is an actual personality analysis.
Look at how this is written. Was this a first draft? This is what I mean by over thought. Try to say this shit out loud. There's signs of cautiousness to what should be a pretty casual (there are no deep points being made here, no analysis) piece of conversation. This, in my opinion, was written by someone with ill intentions who couldn't figure out what direction he wanted to take his aggression to get his point across. His follow up is almost mocking and defensive, then he drives it home by claiming I'm going OMGUS (Why would he assume and diminish my vote if he was really trying to get to the bottom of my intentions?). It's disingenuous and deceptive.
1) We've covered a bunch of reasons of why they would do it early, as scum or as town. It's been a discussion point.
2) I did give a reason, to swamped. It may or may not have been a joke. It was still a reason, it wasn't RNG. I wanted to vote Splinter, it wasnt random. My issue was your declaration of it being true aggression towards him, where I placed the vote and did not chase him at all afterward.
3) I looked back at your quote, you specifically mention a pro-town role:
Bolded the obvious section, that describes a power role, whereas your response to me implies you meant just a townie. Which is it?
Is this your bold peediction (yes I spelled that right) for this game
Should have added that I'm unwilling to vote for Cabot as well, as i feel he's playing in Town's best interests right now. He's on Boo Boo, a player who hasn't seen much spotlight so far, i think it's helpful we don't all concentrate on the same players.
While QuantumBro eventually chimes in, here's another passing thought. Style posted (basicially) "gee where is Darryl". This was like, 90 minutes after the game started. And apparently Darryl actually posted already. Maybe overeager scum trying to find a path towards Darryl's doom? It's a weird post though.
Anyways, I'll brb in a few hours.
Anyways, I'll brb in a few hours.