Joei
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Well that's interesting. I want to play Type-0, ashame I don't have a PS4 yet.
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What after FF XV in this gen? FF XV-2 / XV-3 or FF XVI?
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Well that's interesting. I want to play Type-0, ashame I don't have a PS4 yet.
Green Mamba
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I really do feel that Agni's Philosophy will, at some level, be the basis of a FF to come.
Northeastmonk
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You mean Agni's Philosophy is possibly the next Midgar?
Antilurker77
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I'm going to guess it'll be FF15-2 and FF15-3 (hopefully with more budget and effort than the 13 sequels) with FF16 creeping in towards the end of the generation.
What?
No, I'm pretty sure Agni's Philosophy is Utopia and Slums juxtaposition, not Dirty Cyberpunk
Tabata recently talked about how he would want the Type series to continue on consoles, IIRC. I'll see if I can find the interview.
threelights
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They said that plan was scrapped, and Tabata did say there was no plans for sequels nor DLC for FFXV ("currently", of course).
So I doubt if we have a sequel it'll be anything like the original plans.
Tabata says what he wants, but not necessarily that SE would be willing to give him the budget for a AAA FF game (those are expensive these days). Specially since he already said the Type series was where they could experiment and take more risks than mainline games.
Northeastmonk
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I meant in the fan's eyes. Seeing how much success the direction FF7's cities had. The image alone sets everything in place. Agni's Philosophy has that appeal to it. You aren't necessarily running at the gates to get out, but to be consumed by your surroundings.
The Outsider
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XIII-IV: Lightning Strikes... Again
LegendofDragoonLives
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FF XV-2 (2018), FF XV-3 (2020)
FF XVI (2017), FF XVI-2 (2019), FXVI-3 (2021)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (2017)
Kingdom Hearts Spin-off (2020)
FF XVI (2017), FF XVI-2 (2019), FXVI-3 (2021)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (2017)
Kingdom Hearts Spin-off (2020)
But have they REALLY been working what we're currently seeing, for the past 9 years?
Seems more like 9 years of severe project mismanagement and planning.
No amount of sequels or spinoffs can recoup the loss of time and resources incurred during that time.
Hopefully they've learned what and what not do with with their upcoming premier titles.
Didn't see that post before
Interesting
sounds like nomura still plays a pretty big role in SE still
Good
Was afraid he got sakaguchied
FF7 cities were popular?
I've heard fans gush over FF8's esthar and Fisherman's Horizon. Or Alexandria, Lindblum and Burmecia in FF9.
Never come across folks with that much enthusiasm for any other place in FF7 beyond Midgar.
well no, I suppose gold saucer too.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Hometowns were very well made. Cid, Red XIII's, and Nibelheim. Nibelheim appearing later on as well. 8's world was exceptional, but I guess with the spinoffs to FF7 I was more involved or immersed by it. From Vincent down to Genesis.
Pagusas
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Huh? Are you kidding? Midgar, Gold Saucer, Junon, Cosmo Canyon, costa del sol, Rocket Town and Nibelheim, all amazing. Not counting the smaller areas but I love them just as much. I wish we'd go back to this art style. Please square go back to steam/cyberpunk look for the next FF.
Please no more sequels
I think Nomura himself said that he already had ideas for other games based in the FFXV universe("A World of the Versus Epic"?).
So I think, especially with all the assets that have been created for XV, that they'll be making sequels before going to XVI.
They might even incorporate some of the stuff from Agni's Philosophy in the sequels.
So I think, especially with all the assets that have been created for XV, that they'll be making sequels before going to XVI.
They might even incorporate some of the stuff from Agni's Philosophy in the sequels.
Wow, Final Fantasy XV must have changed drastically since the last time I saw it.
Oh thank poop! Best news I heard all day!
Persona and FFXV aren't remotely similar lol.
Versus XIII was conceptualized before Persona was even popular.
Cid's Hometown was a house and a rocket. Nibelheim was barely different visually from Kalm or really any of the other small towns which all kinda looked like tiny villages from the alps. Cosm Canyon was a Canyon
I just don't think any of the locales from FF7 had any real visual oomph save the really big locations, read the cities. A lot of it was Windhill from FF8 scattered here and there with a few interesting set pieces in the reactors.
Spyder_Monkey
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I kinda wish Square would pull a Marvel and announce their slate of games for the next 5-6 years.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The sum of those parts. A village isn't necessarily called a city either, but I like to think of the robustness of it all. I include it because it's a set local or a place. It's like arriving to a town that ends up being a small village. You're assuming A. I can buy stuff or B. there's some sort of governing power somewhere.
A town isn't a village, but it's not a city. It's a small town or a little city.
Eh, i just never felt real aesthetic attachment to those places.
Emotional is another story, but i felt further FF's really well defined locational beauty after FF7.
MissDeviling
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FF7 showed a lot of broken, dirty places as opposed to purely beautiful ones, and I think it did that fantastically. Of course you have some stunning architecture, like the Forgotten Capital too.
Like I said, it does Dirty Cyberpunk very well. But it's grandiose set pieces are kinda eclipsed by its subsequent followers.
MagnaderAlpha
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I'm pretty sure they really didn't have much in thought regarding AP's story. It was likely just scraped together in a similar manner as the initial Versus trailer(which was before they even had a firm grasp on the story's entirety). Basically a situation where a team manager has his guys brainstorming ideas for a possible FF game, lots of fast talking and finger snapping("I got it!"). If you're imaginative, that's a EASY thing to do, a shallow basis or gist of an idea. That's probably how FFXV(when it was Versus) came about, with Nomura saying, "Yeah, okay, got this idea! Guy dressed in black stand atop a staircase, looking down at an army of knights wielding guns. This guy, the protagonist, has swords flying around him... yeah, that sounds awesome!".
Fbh
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Either way, they will want to make as much as they can from it.
Same reason why XIII got not 1 but 2 sequels despite being one of the most disliked and worst recieved mainline games in the franchise
But to be honest here, Previews sound positive and I'm seeing a lot of excitement surrounding this game so I'm more inclined to think it will be a success and they will want to milk it and recycle it as much as they can. It already seems to be a bigger group of diehard fans than XIII, the other day I made a "they look like a boy band" joke in another thread some guy acted as if I had just offended his favorite game of all time or something
Best post! But probably unlikely.
Agni's sure seems to pop up a lot for just a demo. Regardless, its easy to speculate its what a XVI would look like.
the reason they did so is somewhat related to Versus, and S-E incompetence as a whole.
If S-E wasn't mismanaged they could have created the development engine they had originally envisioned, they might have been able to release an original FF last gen that wasn't a sequel.I feel like SE is in a better placement development-wise than they were 9 years ago.
b..bu.but they announced FFIX. FFX, and FFXI at the same in the past
legacyzero
Banned
PLEASE no more sequels!
XVI please! And keep Toriyama's ass as far away as possible.
XVI please! And keep Toriyama's ass as far away as possible.
Starring Agni
9 years on, and we've just about gotten all three that were announced at the same time in 2006. Times sure are different.the reason they did so is somewhat related to Versus, and S-E incompetence as a whole.
Had S-E didn't suck and developed the development engine they had originally envisioned, they might have released an original FF last gen that wasn't a sequel.
I feel like SE is in a better placement development wise than they were 9 years ago.
b..bu.but they announced FFIX. FFX, and FFXI at the same in the past
I really, really hope they go back to their old model of doing 3 (non-sequelized) main entries in a generation. I'd even take 2, as long as the second one isn't an mmo. I mean, c'mon, XIV still has a big lifespam ahead of it.
So, if XV is the "modern/sci-fi-ish" title of the gen, ideally XVI would take a more oldschool approach of mixing a medieval setting with steampunk elements. A man can dream.
So, if XV is the "modern/sci-fi-ish" title of the gen, ideally XVI would take a more oldschool approach of mixing a medieval setting with steampunk elements. A man can dream.
I wish Square Enix would quit it with the mainline installment sequels. They should go back to a time when a new mainline Final Fantasy game was a big deal. Sure, it still is, but when they continuously develop mainline sequels and side games, it only dulls out a player's excitement for the Final Fantasy series. It's not a big enough deal anymore, I suppose. Today's Square Enix is going to repeat their formula of creating a sequel or two for Final Fantasy XV, then release Final Fantasy XVI, but I suspect Final Fantasy XVI has been in development for a long time.
alice_kiss_lara
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after FFXV there would be FF7 PS4 port and FF13 series remaster
OmegaDL50
Member
I really wouldn't say sales are indicative of quality by any stretch.
One doesn't need to look any further than Japanese review portal Mk2 to see what they feel about FFXIII.
http://www.psmk2.net/title.php?title=519
To borrow a quote from Duckroll
Mk2 is a Japanese review portal which is a series of sites each catering to user reviews for a specific platform. It covers all genres, and user reviews are moderated. It is more meaningful than a regular user review collection because there are specific standards to the review format. Users are required to detail the review substantially with likes/dislikes on the game, critique, list how long they've played the game, and score the game in various categories. For each game, there is also a chart showing how the review scores are distributed across the percentiles, to make up the average actual score.
Yeah, I don't think Japan is all that positive about FFXIII either.
texhnolyze
Banned
Wow, I missed that one.
Interesting..
I agree.
They're actually on track at one mainline Final Fantasy title per generation, since the PS2 era. FFXII for the PS2, FFXIII on PS3 and we're only getting FFXV for the entire PS4 generation. FFXIV is a mmorpg so that is fairly not counted.
sublimit
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texhnolyze
Banned
2 main FF's for PS2.You forgot FFX.
Uh, right.
Did I just thought that FFX was on PS one? Lol.
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