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What are you reading? (March 2017)

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nicoga3000

Saint Nic
This is going to sound like a dumb question, but does anyone have any "tips" for reading in an environment with background distractions? I can usually read fine in a crowded area where all the sounds and conversations blend into one...But anytime I'm somewhere where I can hear a TV, a single conversation, etc., I am can't get through a page without forgetting everything I've read.
 
This is going to sound like a dumb question, but does anyone have any "tips" for reading in an environment with background distractions? I can usually read fine in a crowded area where all the sounds and conversations blend into one...But anytime I'm somewhere where I can hear a TV, a single conversation, etc., I am can't get through a page without forgetting everything I've read.

I've found it to be impossible. Unless I'm reading a nonfiction article or something.
 

Woorloog

Banned
I've always been the type who can focus on whatever i'm doing and completely ignore environment around me provided there isn't something directly bothering me (like being hungry). It is almost a flow-like state really.
Not sure if this kind of focus can be trained though. I am an introvert, withdrawing to an inner world is relatively easy for me.

Maybe you could try focusing on your thoughts, think and follow that chain of thought logically, train that, maybe it could be applied to reading. Or maybe meditation, i don't know.

...

Not sure this is helpful, what i wrote seems kinda meaningless.
 

besada

Banned
I'm reading Collapsing Empire by John Scalzi. It's okay so far. Not his best or most exciting writing. The overall concept so far is fairly interesting, but the handling hasn't thrilled me so far.

Up next, 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson, which I expect to be faboo, as per usual for KSR. By the time i finish, maybe the new Ian McDonald Luna book will be out, and I can do a trifecta of science fiction.
 

Saya

Member
I finally finished reading Shadow of the Wind. Which took me a long time to finish. I never really got into it.

Started The Last Wish, one of the first Witcher books a few days ago and it has been a fun read so far. Light and easy. Just the right book at the right time.
 
Where should I start with Stephen King? Well, I've read Carrie but nothing else.

I'd say It is quintessential King and gets referenced in all his other books whether it be locations or names of people. My favorite King, however, is Under the Dome and 11/22/63.
 

kingofrod

Member
Just finished this. Man...you weren't kidding. Extremely effective writing! I felt dirty at times and wanted to take a shower. I feel like it's a really good book that you don't necessarily want to recommend to anyone. I went through quite a few emotions in this. Anger, fear, sadness, confusion, it really was a solid read.

Have you read anything else by this guy?

I'm back to reading a few chapters of World War Z. I find I like it better when I read a snippet here and there. Didn't care for it the first time I picked it up.

Glad to hear you liked it! And I get your statement on not wanting to recommend to anyone - it could certainly get you some odd looks! The only other books I've read by Ketchum are his first book, Off Season (which I didn't care for as much), and The Lost. The Lost is pretty great - it isn't nearly as shocking as The Girl Next Door, but it shares the great writing and an honest look at senseless violence. I won't say anymore about the plot but I will tell you that, the whole time I was reading it, I was thinking "I wish Stephen King could write like this." I love Stephen King, but I can't stand when he has a character clumsily humming or referencing some classic rock song in the middle of running from a monster/dog/clown/car or whatever.

Thanks for letting me know what you thought about this one!
 

MilkBeard

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I finally finished reading Shadow of the Wind. Which took me a long time to finish. I never really got into it.

Started The Last Wish, one of the first Witcher books a few days ago and it has been a fun read so far. Light and easy. Just the right book at the right time.

Just started it today as well. Feel the same, it is light and easy writing, and fun (so far).
 

Saya

Member
Just started it today as well. Feel the same, it is light and easy writing, and fun (so far).

Yeah, I'm a couple stories in and so far it is fun. I'm already thinking about picking up the next book and perhaps even playing the games when I'm done. I never got around to playing them but I enjoy the worldbuilding, atmosphere, and characters.
 
Where should I start with Stephen King? Well, I've read Carrie but nothing else.
Soooooo I write this series for the guardian https://www.theguardian.com/books/series/rereading-stephen-king which is all about his books, and I maintain that the best first King is either Misery or Salem's Lot or Pet Semetary. Misery isn't supernatural, the other two are, by they're all good sized - I don't think you should start with a massive one, they're pretty daunting - and they're all excellent.
 

Krowley

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Where should I start with Stephen King? Well, I've read Carrie but nothing else.

I would go with Salem's Lot, The Stand, or IT. Those are all three magnificent standalone books that really give a good feel for what he brings to the table as a storyteller. Salem's Lot is the shortest of the three and probably the easiest to get through.

For me, King's most definitive works are the ones that are really scaled up to an epic size with several major characters dealing with a huge problem, and sometimes covering a long span of time. He does big stories like that better than most other horror writers, who tend to focus on smaller stories set in isolated situations with thriller-style pacing. King can do small stuff too - books like Cujo, or Carrie. But the ability to do really big complicated stories with pacing reminiscent of epic fantasy is something that sets his work apart. The three books above are all good examples of that.
 
Where should I start with Stephen King? Well, I've read Carrie but nothing else.
My first King book was The Stand, which I thought was simply incredible. After that I'd recommend Pet Semetary, The Shining, Misery, the Bachman books, Different Seasons..

You almost can't go wrong with Stephen King.
 

Mumei

Member
Salem's Lot! It's still my favorite King book, I think. Otherwise you can't go wrong with The Shining.

By eck, there's so many

The Stand
Needful Things
The Shining
Doctor Sleep
IT
Salem's Lot
Joyland

I'd say It is quintessential King and gets referenced in all his other books whether it be locations or names of people. My favorite King, however, is Under the Dome and 11/22/63.

The Shining is pretty good.
The Stand is amazing (at least I thought it was when I read it 20+ years ago).

Do not read Dreamcatcher. Ever.

Soooooo I write this series for the guardian https://www.theguardian.com/books/series/rereading-stephen-king which is all about his books, and I maintain that the best first King is either Misery or Salem's Lot or Pet Semetary. Misery isn't supernatural, the other two are, by they're all good sized - I don't think you should start with a massive one, they're pretty daunting - and they're all excellent.

I would go with Salem's Lot, The Stand, or IT. Those are all three magnificent standalone books that really give a good feel for what he brings to the table as a storyteller. Salem's Lot is the shortest of the three and probably the easiest to get through.

For me, King's most definitive works are the ones that are really scaled up to an epic size with several major characters dealing with a huge problem, and sometimes covering a long span of time. He does big stories like that better than most other horror writers, who tend to focus on smaller stories set in isolated situations with thriller-style pacing. King can do small stuff too - books like Cujo, or Carrie. But the ability to do really big complicated stories with pacing reminiscent of epic fantasy is something that sets his work apart. The three books above are all good examples of that.

My first King book was The Stand, which I thought was simply incredible. After that I'd recommend Pet Semetary, The Shining, Misery, the Bachman books, Different Seasons..

You almost can't go wrong with Stephen King.

So, what I'm getting is that the correct answer is "all of them."
 

besada

Banned
Earlier is better, Mumei. So start with Salem's Lot, rather than Misery. King's books often have Easter Eggs for people who've read them in order.
 

duckroll

Member
This is going to sound like a dumb question, but does anyone have any "tips" for reading in an environment with background distractions? I can usually read fine in a crowded area where all the sounds and conversations blend into one...But anytime I'm somewhere where I can hear a TV, a single conversation, etc., I am can't get through a page without forgetting everything I've read.

Depends on how you read I guess. If I need an extra push to filter out of the external noise, I just read aloud in my head. It usually drowns out the distraction. It's really only a problem if whatever is in the background is more interesting than what I'm reading, like people gossiping about something I might be interested in. LOL.
 

HotHamBoy

Member
...but as it was the combination of urgency, scope and ace characters (plus ideas) that made AFUTD ;_;

Thanks for giving your impressions so far. Entertaining is good. And yeah the characters in AFUTD were great. I just loved Wickwrackscar, and the Tines are one of the best scifi ideas ever.

The Tines and the Skroderiders. So good.
 

norm9

Member
Soooooo I write this series for the guardian https://www.theguardian.com/books/series/rereading-stephen-king which is all about his books, and I maintain that the best first King is either Misery or Salem's Lot or Pet Semetary. Misery isn't supernatural, the other two are, by they're all good sized - I don't think you should start with a massive one, they're pretty daunting - and they're all excellent.

I use that series whenever I can't decide which king book to read next. Great writeups.

So, what I'm getting is that the correct answer is "all of them."

Read my favorite King book, The Stand if you want a full novel. If it seems too daunting, any of his short story collections will entertain as well. The benefit of the short stories is that you can knock out one to three stories at bed time, excluding the novellas.

Eta- finished I Am Not Your Negro last week. A collection of poetry, interviews, etc by James Baldwin. Very powerful stuff about race that is more relevant than ever.
 

besada

Banned
I finished the new Scalzi, Collapsing Empire. It wasn't that great. I'm disappointed. It's the lead in book to a new universe, but I'm not entirely sure I care about the universe presented. The central conceit -- that the Flow, a series of connections in brane space is collapsing, dooming an intergalactic empire -- is interesting enough, but the society itself is pretty boring, as are most of the characters. There was no one here I really cared about, one way or the other. There are a couple of mildly entertaining assholes, but that's about it. The worst part is, though, that it really feels like a prologue. Unlike something like Ancillary Justice, which described a much different world than ours, but still managed to make the book a complete, coherent story, Scalzi is really just serving up a primer on his universe, in which very little happens.

So yeah, not that great.

I started New York 2140, by Kim Stanley Robinson, which, even though it takes place on Earth, has a much more plausible and strange society in it's first dozen pages than Scalzi manages in the entire book. It's a great read so far, and very much a KSR novel. Big ideas, lots of people, amused, wry takes about how fucked we all are, etc.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
Where should I start with Stephen King? Well, I've read Carrie but nothing else.

Big King fan here, My favorite books:

IT
The Stand
Salems Lot
The Shining
Misery
The Tommyknockers
Needful Things
11/22/63
Under the Dome

I mean I love most of his work but you can't go wrong with those. I have not read all of the dark tower so can't comment on the series as a whole but it didn't grab me like most king books do.

So, what I'm getting is that the correct answer is "all of them."
Yup lol.
 

aravuus

Member
Looks like the Kindle version of The Count of Monte Cristo is, for some reason, free on Amazon? Well, I obviously picked it up.

How's the English version for a casual-ish non-native reader? I'm afraid the book would take me like a hundred hours to read. I tried reading the book in Finnish a year or so back, but it was just awful lmao.
 

Daniel R

Member
Black Metal - Evolution of the cult by Dayal Patterson.
It is like a history book of the evolution of black metal with great interviews and chapters devoted to each significant band,.
 

Nymerio

Member
Looks like the Kindle version of The Count of Monte Cristo is, for some reason, free on Amazon? Well, I obviously picked it up.

How's the English version for a casual-ish non-native reader? I'm afraid the book would take me like a hundred hours to read. I tried reading the book in Finnish a year or so back, but it was just awful lmao.

Just make sure it's not an abridged version. The copy I got for free from amazon was and I switched to the dead tree version I already had once I realized this.
 

aravuus

Member
Just make sure it's not an abridged version. The copy I got for free from amazon was and I switched to the dead tree version I already had once I realized this.

117 chapters and over 700 pages, I'd imagine it's the unabridged version.

Gonna be a while until I can properly delve into it, though.
 

Rei_Toei

Fclvat sbe Pnanqn, ru?
I've just ploughed through Altered Carbon and it's the first time since reading Gibson's stuff that I'm actually enjoying something cyberpunk as much as Gibson's novels. Which I'm very happy about because I really adore Gibson and Richard K Morgan has at least 3 other novels that fall into the genre (if I'm not mistaken). This isn't meant as a diss to other writers that have published stuff in the cyberpunk genre, I definitely haven't checked everything there is. But for example Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash didn't resonate as strongly with me, felt much more gimmicky and derivative, as if it was a parody attempt (maybe it was).

Curious to see how the tv series adaptation works out. Hope Netflix steps up their ambition and goes all-out HBO on this series :)
 

Saphirax

Member
117 chapters and over 700 pages, I'd imagine it's the unabridged version.

Gonna be a while until I can properly delve into it, though.

Count of Monte Cristo has around 1200 pages, so you probably got the abridged version. Since it was offered for free the translation also won't be very good.
 

Meteorain

Member
Currently reading:

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Pretty interesting so far. Translation seems decent if a little....bland? robotic? at times. It has moments of poetic approach. I don't know if this is a stylisation of Chinese writing, or the author, or things just do not translate well.
 

aravuus

Member
Count of Monte Cristo has around 1200 pages, so you probably got the abridged version. Since it was offered for free the translation also won't be very good.

I'm so confused lol. The abridged Kindle one has 71 chapters and 450 pages. Or at least the on that actually has (abridged) on the title does.

Just to make sure, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FPJST30/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Abridged or not? Bad translation or not?
 

Li Kao

Member
I had the worst luck finding something that stick, tried The bazaar of bad dreams by Stephen King but lost the will to continue after two relatively mediocre stories, and really tried to get The Perseids and Other Stories by Robert Charles Wilson but same story, one great short and two weaker ones killed my inner hype.
So I came back for some known quantity and continued the Books of Blood by Clive Barker.


Books of Blood volume 3
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Eh, the bad streak continues after a fashion as this is so far the weakest volume I read in the series. But two stories were good enough, albeit undercooked imho.

Son of Celluloid
The 'bad thing' in this short is totally creepy and inventive, I will give you that, but the whole mix don't gel imho. Like a cook who threw everything but the kitchen in his meal. The cinematography evocation got me rolling my eyes real hard. Missfire.

Rawhead Rex
Nice, creepy intoduction, good buildup, but quite a rushed climax. Still enjoyed it a lot after the indigestible first short.

Confessions of a (Pornographer's) Shroud
Pointless. Anecdotal. Vain. It seems to me Barker is unfortunately at his lowest when he try his hand at funny or lighter stories.

Scape-Goats
Some fucking great dreary mood, really enjoyed it but like Rawhead Rex I can't help but think the thing was rushed or could have been much more interesting had Barker chosen a different outcome. Typical Barker dread though, nice.

Human Remains
Not read yet but I get the feeling this is one of the shorts I spoiled myself on Wikipedia, quite a gloomy one.


Like I said, a weak Book of Blood. But I got two good moments out of it so far, I won't complain.
 

Mumei

Member
I'm so confused lol. The abridged Kindle one has 71 chapters and 450 pages. Or at least the on that actually has (abridged) on the title does.

Just to make sure, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FPJST30/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Abridged or not? Bad translation or not?

Abridged by about 500 pages. There's only one good English translation, and that's the Penguin Classics edition by Robin Buss. Every other version is either abridged, a deeply bowdlerized and censored nineteenth-century translation, or based upon that translation.
 

Saphirax

Member
I'm so confused lol. The abridged Kindle one has 71 chapters and 450 pages. Or at least the on that actually has (abridged) on the title does.

Just to make sure, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FPJST30/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Abridged or not? Bad translation or not?

What Mumei said. There's only one good translation and it's not available on Kindle. The Penguin Classics edition actually explains how inferior other versions are in its introduction. It's a good read even if you're not planning on buying the book physically.
 

aravuus

Member
It's not available on Kindle? Damn it. That's a shame.

Well whatever, now I'm kinda itching to check it out and the penguin classics edition is cheap so I might as well order it. Delivery's gonna take like a month so maybe I'll have more time to read by the time it arrives.
 

Li Kao

Member
Hey I didn't see that King was discussed earlier today. I'm very new to King and read some short texts (Cycle of the Werewolf, Riding the bullet, the first two stories from Bazaar of bad Dreams) and my first proper book was Salem's Lot.
I would recommend Salem's Lot heartily, but not without reservations. It was not really frightening and I think King stumbles on himself a little when the action really starts (a little quick, predictable, that sort of stumbling)...
...
But man, his rendering of the city is sooooo good it makes all the complaints I could throw at it null and void.

In fact I'm beginning to wonder if King is able to deliver on a shorter format, some of the things I've read weren't bad but I get the feeling he needs length to really shine.
I'm toying with the idea of reading "It", but most of the man's work has a monstrous page count for little reading ocd me.


To the fans: is there another King's book where the city is as fascinating as in Salem's Lot ?
 
To the fans: is there another King's book where the city is as fascinating as in Salem's Lot ?

I haven't read Salem's Lot* but that's the reason I love Under the Dome so much. The characters and interactions between everyone is great. I didn't give a shit about the dome or why it was there.

*Time to rectify this - just purchased Salem's Lot :b
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Currently reading:

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Pretty interesting so far. Translation seems decent if a little....bland? robotic? at times. It has moments of poetic approach. I don't know if this is a stylisation of Chinese writing, or the author, or things just do not translate well.
It felt stiff for the most part to me too. I got invested in all the concepts it worked with, but in absolutely none of the characters. Kind of cooled me off from reading the sequel.
 

Krowley

Member
Hey I didn't see that King was discussed earlier today. I'm very new to King and read some short texts (Cycle of the Werewolf, Riding the bullet, the first two stories from Bazaar of bad Dreams) and my first proper book was Salem's Lot.
I would recommend Salem's Lot heartily, but not without reservations. It was not really frightening and I think King stumbles on himself a little when the action really starts (a little quick, predictable, that sort of stumbling)...
...
But man, his rendering of the city is sooooo good it makes all the complaints I could throw at it null and void.

In fact I'm beginning to wonder if King is able to deliver on a shorter format, some of the things I've read weren't bad but I get the feeling he needs length to really shine.
I'm toying with the idea of reading "It", but most of the man's work has a monstrous page count for little reading ocd me.


To the fans: is there another King's book where the city is as fascinating as in Salem's Lot ?


"IT" relies heavily on the "town as a character" theme. Even more than Salem's Lot. And Needful things is another good example.

Tommyknockers is built along the same lines, but it's not as universally loved. I liked it personally, but it's a very weird novel and a little bloated. King wrote it while he was out of his mind on drugs and alcohol, and he dislikes it himself, but I think it's a slightly underrated.

The Stand takes place all over America - each character starts off in a separate place, and there's a lot of traveling in the book. But all the different locations are pretty well rendered, and he plays with the contrast in all the different settings.

Generally, he's just very good at setting up an interesting community of characters and giving them a believable world to inhabit. Even in books where it isn't a primary focus, he always does a good job with the woldbuilding aspects of storytelling.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
"IT" relies heavily on the "town as a character" theme. Even more than Salem's Lot. And Needful things is another good example.

Tommyknockers is built along the same lines, but it's not as universally loved. I liked it personally, but it's a very weird novel and a little bloated. King wrote it while he was out of his mind on drugs and alcohol, and he dislikes it himself, but I think it's a slightly underrated.

Tommyknockers is one of his most underrated books in my eyes as well. I didn't realize that King dislikes it himself but it's still one of my favorites.
 
It felt stiff for the most part to me too. I got invested in all the concepts it worked with, but with absolutely none of the characters. Kind of cooled me off from reading the sequel.

Well, it certainly doesn't help that the beginning of book 2 is shit. That's where I stalled out.
 

aravuus

Member
Randomly browsed through King's books on Amazon since you guys were talking about him and holy shit - It is 1400 pages long?! I was planning on maybe checking it out but, uh.. Maybe later.

I think I'll finally add Pet Sematary on my to-read list tho. I've only read one King book as far as I remember and I kind of hated it (the one with
the priest who fucked around with lightning, it had the most amazingly dumb ending to a book
, can't recall the name) so I've stayed away for the most part. But everyone calls Pet Sematary so scary I just can't NOT read it.
 
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