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Dunki

Member
No one said that what happened in Germany was okay. Literally no one. I'm saying that you're comparing apples and oranges; they are NOT the same group internationally. American antifa is a very very very different beast. A much more docile and ineffective one.

They share the same ideology the same midst and hunting people down and then punch them is not docile at all. Many of these people come to these protest to attack protestors. And yes they are just now forming but they also take a lot of Inspiration from Antifa in Europe. To ignore this movement will lead to more radicalization.


Also for consequences and censorship Just a week ago a black women was fired from I think it was apple because she dared to say that you also can find a lot of diversity between white males. This caused a real outrage and she was fired or stepped down to be replaced by some white women. This is the perfect example why social media mob hunts are also a form of censorship, free thought and freedom of speech.

And this was the sentence that got her fired because of some ideological racist mob.

”There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they're going to be diverse too because they're going to bring a different life experience and life perspective to the conversation," the inaugural diversity chief said. Diversity is the human experience,"

https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-just-six-months/

If you believe censorship only happen when the government is enforcing is that I have to tell you that this is a very naive thinking.
 

Dunki

Member
I do not think this is helping much. Why can't we just agree that no matter who acts violently be it a trump, supporter or Antifa is in the wrong and should not be celebrated. Punching people no matter their ideology is a crime and should be treated as such.
 

Ke0

Member
As a Brit, I will admit I always had a hard time understanding the idea that "nearly half of America hates minorities", mostly because I couldn't understand why. Granted UK is going through the same motions right now.

But after reading some of the posts in this thread I understand it quite clear. They hate that these people don't "know their place" and dare voice their complaints about the country which people see as these groups being "ungrateful" of all that was "given" to them and it is by their mercy that minorities aren't being treated worse.

This is all very troubling, and even more crazy is that people acknowledge this and are willing to vote against what's best for their country just so they can stick it to these minorities.

It allows politicians to take advantage of you (and let's things like Brexit happen…)
 

Dunki

Member
As a Brit, I will admit I always had a hard time understanding the idea that "nearly half of America hates minorities", mostly because I couldn't understand why. Granted UK is going through the same motions right now.

But after reading some of the posts in this thread I understand it quite clear. They hate that these people don't "know their place" and dare voice their complaints about the country which people see as these groups being "ungrateful" of all that was "given" to them and it is by their mercy that minorities aren't being treated worse.

This is all very troubling, and even more crazy is that people acknowledge this and are willing to vote against what's best for their country just so they can stick it to these minorities.

It allows politicians to take advantage of you (and let's things like Brexit happen…)
Brexit was not a result of fear and hate. Brexit was a result of the complete incompetence of the EU parliament. I still can not believe how Juncker still has the Position he is in right now. Brexit also happens when things are getting worse for the normal population while politicians just do not care.

And yes also a lot has to do with immigration policies which really needs to be regulated. Honestly I do not mind for example that 22.5% of the people in Germany have a migrant background. I think its great however we need a better selection. We need better immigration laws and we need them soon. Or you really will see what kind of hate this will cause in the whole EU. Many countries are already at their limit and their last choice or hope is that voting for a very rightwing party will solve these issues....
 

RefigeKru

Banned
Brexit was not a result of fear and hate. Brexit was a result of the complete incompetence of the EU parliament. I still can not believe how Juncker still has the Position he is in right now. Brexit also happens when things are getting worse for the normal population while politicians just do not care.

And yes also a lot has to do with immigration policies which really needs to be regulated. Honestly I do not mind for example that 22.5% of the people in Germany have a migrant background. I think its great however we need a better selection. We need better immigration laws and we need them soon. Or you really will see what kind of hate this will cause in the whole EU. Many countries are already at their limit and their last choice or hope is that voting for a very rightwing party will solve these issues....

Maybe that's why you voted for it, but talk to any Brexit supporter (not many left online) and read their sources and it's definitely fear and hatred - especially of things they don't understand, like the EU. Or you know, how immigrants were used as a convenient scapegoat for the ills of our own government alongside the EU.
 
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Dude Abides

Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg

Antifa smashing a man in the head with a bike lock and running away.

Seems rather cowardly also doesnt it?

When did I bring up antifa? I’m talking about the double digit IQ set that elected Trump.


As a Brit, I will admit I always had a hard time understanding the idea that "nearly half of America hates minorities", mostly because I couldn't understand why. Granted UK is going through the same motions right now.

But after reading some of the posts in this thread I understand it quite clear. They hate that these people don't "know their place" and dare voice their complaints about the country which people see as these groups being "ungrateful" of all that was "given" to them and it is by their mercy that minorities aren't being treated worse.

This is all very troubling, and even more crazy is that people acknowledge this and are willing to vote against what's best for their country just so they can stick it to these minorities.

It allows politicians to take advantage of you (and let's things like Brexit happen…)

Unfortunately in America there are enough of them to elect a senile old racist president.
 

Usobuko

Banned
As a Brit, I will admit I always had a hard time understanding the idea that "nearly half of America hates minorities", mostly because I couldn't understand why. Granted UK is going through the same motions right now.

But after reading some of the posts in this thread I understand it quite clear. They hate that these people don't "know their place" and dare voice their complaints about the country which people see as these groups being "ungrateful" of all that was "given" to them and it is by their mercy that minorities aren't being treated worse.

This is all very troubling, and even more crazy is that people acknowledge this and are willing to vote against what's best for their country just so they can stick it to these minorities.

It's not just this, alt-right being terrible is nothing new.

There are many on the left who don't give 2 shit about other countries citizens when it was their own country that was responsible for the civilian deaths.

The muh hegemony has to be maintained and cannot be challenged, the rest of the developing nations are only served to enrich the rich ( western ) ones.
 

Blood Borne

Member
They share the same ideology the same midst and hunting people down and then punch them is not docile at all. Many of these people come to these protest to attack protestors. And yes they are just now forming but they also take a lot of Inspiration from Antifa in Europe. To ignore this movement will lead to more radicalization.


Also for consequences and censorship Just a week ago a black women was fired from I think it was apple because she dared to say that you also can find a lot of diversity between white males. This caused a real outrage and she was fired or stepped down to be replaced by some white women. This is the perfect example why social media mob hunts are also a form of censorship, free thought and freedom of speech.

And this was the sentence that got her fired because of some ideological racist mob.



https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-just-six-months/

If you believe censorship only happen when the government is enforcing is that I have to tell you that this is a very naive thinking.

Wow. That's troubling.
But hey, that's the left's form of diversity. It's all about different color of the skin. They believe it's not racism because their intentions are good and noble.
 

Blueingreen

Member
Brexit was not a result of fear and hate. Brexit was a result of the complete incompetence of the EU parliament. I still can not believe how Juncker still has the Position he is in right now. Brexit also happens when things are getting worse for the normal population while politicians just do not care.

And yes also a lot has to do with immigration policies which really needs to be regulated. Honestly I do not mind for example that 22.5% of the people in Germany have a migrant background. I think its great however we need a better selection. We need better immigration laws and we need them soon. Or you really will see what kind of hate this will cause in the whole EU. Many countries are already at their limit and their last choice or hope is that voting for a very rightwing party will solve these issues....

Assuming you're German how successful has Merkel's immigration been in the last 2 years? Because the left seems to think that being against uncontrolled immigration is a somewhat outstanding opinion to have when the reality is its not popular in any developed nation, I've yet to here an argument as to why controlled immigration is a bad thing beside "muh diversity".
 

JordanN

Banned
Because the left seems to think that being against uncontrolled immigration is a somewhat outstanding opinion to have when the reality is its not popular in any developed nation, I've yet to here an argument as to why controlled immigration is a bad thing beside "muh diversity".

I personally don't want governments telling people who is allowed in or out of a country. It's always come across as authoritarian to me.

Examples: The St.Louis being refused to land and being sent back to Europe. Or the recent North Korean soldier who escaped from Socialist Paradise™ to cross directly into South Korea with no border walls in place.

Of course, what happens to immigrants when they come to another country is another story. Again, this is why I oppose welfare. If you really want to build a new life yourself, prove it and find a job. But if you immigrate and just ask for welfare checks, sorry but you gotta leave.
 

AmaiMask

Banned
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TrumpGAF...ASSEMBLE!



First we took your country, then we took your forum, next we come for your safe spaces. Look upon us and despair!
The videogames, don't forget the videogames! We have to take back the videogames from SJW hands as well.
 

AmaiMask

Banned
As a Brit, I will admit I always had a hard time understanding the idea that "nearly half of America hates minorities", mostly because I couldn't understand why. Granted UK is going through the same motions right now.

But after reading some of the posts in this thread I understand it quite clear. They hate that these people don't "know their place" and dare voice their complaints about the country which people see as these groups being "ungrateful" of all that was "given" to them and it is by their mercy that minorities aren't being treated worse.

This is all very troubling, and even more crazy is that people acknowledge this and are willing to vote against what's best for their country just so they can stick it to these minorities.

It allows politicians to take advantage of you (and let's things like Brexit happen...)
"These people" are the SJWs. I'm a minority myself, black, who's verymuch proud of his race. Unlike the vast majority of self-hating white SJWs who'd literally end their own race to appease a twisted sense of guilt for being white. However, just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm down with the SJW narrative, these people are absolutely insane and in fact need to be put in their place. As Anti-SJWs, we've got to invade SJW safespaces and radicalize them with our wrongthink, challenging their very worldview and forcing them to either change, or expose their complete insanity to the neutral masses.

It's not minorities Anti-SJWs are trying to stick it to, but SJWs. I'd gladly take a chance with this country with Trump as POTUS to make sure SJWs learn that their toxic bullshit will never be accepted. Be thankful that Trump isn't literally Hitler, because I promise you he'd still have won.
 
"These people" are the SJWs. I'm a minority myself, black, who's verymuch proud of his race. Unlike the vast majority of self-hating white SJWs who'd literally end their own race to appease a twisted sense of guilt for being white. However, just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm down with the SJW narrative, these people are absolutely insane and in fact need to be put in their place. As Anti-SJWs, we've got to invade SJW safespaces and radicalize them with our wrongthink, challenging their very worldview and forcing them to either change, or expose their complete insanity to the neutral masses.

It's not minorities Anti-SJWs are trying to stick it to, but SJWs. I'd gladly take a chance with this country with Trump as POTUS to make sure SJWs learn that their toxic bullshit will never be accepted. Be thankful that Trump isn't literally Hitler, because I promise you he'd still have won.

Amen brother I don’t understand the Masochist thinking some of these people have. I’m assuming the colleges allow this to fester, and Disserning opinions are shot down as bigoted and racists instead of being discussed and debated.

Trump is all fluff it’s the rhetoric of the other side that is truly over the top.
 

Dunki

Member
Assuming you're German how successful has Merkel's immigration been in the last 2 years? Because the left seems to think that being against uncontrolled immigration is a somewhat outstanding opinion to have when the reality is its not popular in any developed nation, I've yet to here an argument as to why controlled immigration is a bad thing beside "muh diversity".

Very bad and the problem is not even the immigration. The biggest probllem is that if you are in there are almost no ways to throw you out again. You can murder people and still not being deported. You can steal, betray the government regarding social healthcare etc.

If these laws we have right now would be more strict and if we actually had possibilities to throw people out again. It would be not bad at all.
 

AmaiMask

Banned
Amen brother I don’t understand the Masochist thinking some of these people have. I’m assuming the colleges allow this to fester, and Disserning opinions are shot down as bigoted and racists instead of being discussed and debated.

Trump is all fluff it’s the rhetoric of the other side that is truly over the top.
Literally the only thing Trump's actually done is be a completely remorseless, narcissistic asshole. That's literally all he's done to set SJWs off ablaze. SJWs aren't used to person with authority being so blatantly non-PC and actually winning in the eyes of the masses. Usually SJWs are able to cut down a powerful person by exposing their hypocrisy. Well, how can you possibly shame a person who embraces their rude nature and actively appeals to said nature?

Trump is Kyptonite to the SJW, they have absolutely no means to deal with him. Trump utterly bullied the FUCK out of all those powerful politicians and for the first time in their lives humbled them. I don't think there's ever been a person in Hillary Clinton's life that ever made her feel more powerless and weak than Trump did. He turned Hillary Clinton into a helpless little girl, and it was beautiful.
 

Dude Abides

Banned
Literally the only thing Trump's actually done is be a completely remorseless, narcissistic asshole. That's literally all he's done to set SJWs off ablaze. SJWs aren't used to person with authority being so blatantly non-PC and actually winning in the eyes of the masses. Usually SJWs are able to cut down a powerful person by exposing their hypocrisy. Well, how can you possibly shame a person who embraces their rude nature and actively appeals to said nature?

Trump is Kyptonite to the SJW, they have absolutely no means to deal with him. Trump utterly bullied the FUCK out of all those powerful politicians and for the first time in their lives humbled them. I don't think there's ever been a person in Hillary Clinton's life that ever made her feel more powerless and weak than Trump did. He turned Hillary Clinton into a helpless little girl, and it was beautiful.

You have some weird psychosexual stuff going on. Might wanna talk to someone.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
That's not really free speech and you know it.

That is factually free speech.

Then again, in the other thread you were saying that pedophiles were the "weakest minority in the world" and that it would be okay for a pedophile to hold elected office.

So uh, you're certainly making use of your free speech.
 
That is factually free speech.

How it's defined in the context law, sure. Not how I define it. Which would entail being able to freely say anything (outside of hate speech ofc) without having your life ruined.

Then again, in the other thread you were saying that pedophiles were the "weakest minority in the world" and that it would be okay for a pedophile to hold elected office.

So uh, you're certainly making use of your free speech.

I'm mostly making use logic and empathy there.
 

Blood Borne

Member
Little Mons†er;253054999 said:
Of course GAF would become a Trump Dump haven after having a pedo mod

Glad ResetERA ended GAF

Tyler is over
But you're still here.

Also, reset is a filthy commie dump.
 

JordanN

Banned
Little Mons†er;253054999 said:
Of course GAF would become a Trump Dump haven after having a pedo mod

Glad ResetERA ended GAF

Tyler is over

People have said GAF was suppose to die for years but here we are in 2017. It's basically like Nintendo at this point. Always going third party.... except when it's not.

I'm fine with another website acting as containment for all the far-leftists and GAF haters to go to.

I'm a centrist who fully believes in diversity, and yet last page I'm still called a nazi who wants to drive over people. If that's the tolerance of the far-left, I don't want to imagine what I would be called on ResetEra.

"I believe government shouldn't redistribute hardworking people's money because money is not a human right..."

"OH MAH GAWD, YOU ARE WORSE THAN DONALD Trump! You literally just let another genocide happen you racist, sexist, nazi monster!!"

User warned: Money is a human right. Stop being a genocidal monster and give up all your paychecks to lazy people who don't work.
 
People have said GAF was suppose to die for years but here we are in 2017. It's basically like Nintendo at this point. Always going third party.... except when it's not.

I'm fine with another website acting as containment for all the far-leftists and GAF haters to go to.

I'm a centrist who fully believes in diversity, and yet last page I'm still called a nazi who wants to drive over people. If that's the tolerance of the far-left, I don't want to imagine what I would be called on ResetEra.

"I believe government shouldn't redistribute hardworking people's money because money is not a human right..."

"OH MAH GAWD, YOU ARE WORSE THAN DONALD Trump! You literally just let another genocide happen you racist, sexist, nazi monster!!"

User warned: Money is a human right. Stop being a genocidal monster and give up all your paychecks to lazy people who don't work.

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i imagine this is how you look writing all your 'woe is me i'm the real victim' posts and it's making me ctfu
 

David___

Banned
People have said GAF was suppose to die for years but here we are in 2017. It's basically like Nintendo at this point. Always going third party.... except when it's not.
Gaf isnt dead, its just slow enough that banning pedophile defenders would make this place more barren ¯\_(ツ)_/¯




I'm a centrist who fully believes in diversity, and yet last page I'm still called a nazi who wants to drive over people. If that's the tolerance of the far-left, I don't want to imagine what I would be called on ResetEra.

"I believe government shouldn't redistribute hardworking people's money because money is not a human right..."

"OH MAH GAWD, YOU ARE WORSE THAN DONALD Trump! You literally just let another genocide happen you racist, sexist, nazi monster!!"

User warned: Money is a human right. Stop being a genocidal monster and give up all your paychecks to lazy people who don't work.

You were pussyfooting around when people asked if you believed if Heather Heyer was a "fat bitch that deserved to die", and instead of answering the question you decided to make multiple posts that said absolutely nothing. Quit playing the victim
 
This thread is a gold mine for SJW entertainment. We have hypocrites everywhere, because we all are, but this is some blind hypocrisy.

What's better is that I think we'll troll rather than debate opinions under the iceberg of legitimate. For example the subject "white liberals want to end white people" is not a topic of debate, it's below sensible discussion despite the .00001% outliers. And at the root, that subject matter is nazi propaganda anyway, and will take the believers doing some real research/life experiences to understand. Some things you just can't coach. The real world isn't so simple a place.

What we'll see in this topic is the left further distancing themselves from the alt-right by claiming them inferior, because just like with Trump, their opinions are worse than you thought it would be. But with Trump you actually have to deal with him.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
You guys are missing the point.

I said not everyone has a perfect moral compass. Thus, if you want to change a person's views you have to engage them on it.

If your solution is just chase away all opposing opinion, then you create a paradox. He runs away, he finds another alt-right group who shares his beliefs, he then doubles down on his beliefs because no one told him why he's wrong.

Understand now?

I have no desire to engage angry racist pieces of shit. That's how you get shot.

But you're still here.

Also, reset is a filthy commie dump.

Haha commies? Maybe we should also worry about the Ottoman Empire next?

Resetera has its own pedo problem.

Yeah they keep coming to GAF.
 

JordanN

Banned
I have no desire to engage angry racist pieces of shit. That's how you get shot.

It's funny because I talk to the same angry racists and that is also their response when it comes to the other side.

How can either side prove each other wrong when neither is willing to leave their safe space and engage in dialogue?
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
It's funny because I talk to the same angry racists and that is also their response when it comes to the other side.

How can either side prove each other wrong when neither is willing to leave their safe space and engage in dialogue?

I thought conservatives were afraid liberals were going to take their guns, not get shot by them? Can't they make up their minds.
 

JordanN

Banned
I thought conservatives were afraid liberals were going to take their guns, not get shot by them? Can't they make up their minds.

Criminals have guns. The government has guns.

But both miss the point. Since you don't want to talk to them, you will never prove to them why they shouldn't fear you.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Criminals have guns. The government has guns.

But both miss the point. Since you don't want to talk to them, you will never prove to them why they shouldn't fear you.

So liberals are criminals and the government run by conservatives are going to shoot other conservatives with guns? As I said, they need to make up their minds over what they're angry and scared about.

I don't want to talk to them because I don't like bashing my head against a wall. life is too short too teach angry hateful idiots why they shouldn't be the way they are.
 

JordanN

Banned
I don't want to talk to them because I don't like bashing my head against a wall. life is too short too teach angry hateful idiots why they shouldn't be the way they are.

Then by doing so, you're just confirming their suspicions.

I don't know how many times I need to say it. There isn't a magic moral pixie that flies around and tells people "lol ok bro, your viewpoints are messed up. I'm here with my magic pixie dust to correct you!"

When nobody's views are challenged, they stay that way forever.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Then by doing so, you're just confirming their suspicions.

I don't know how many times I need to say it. There isn't a magic moral pixie that flies around and tells people "lol ok bro, your viewpoints are messed up. I'm here with my magic pixie dust to correct you!"

When nobody's views are challenged, they stay that way forever.

I don't give a shit about confirming their suspicions because their suspicions were confirmed the moment they learned I was a liberal so again, why should I bother dealing with people who hate the very idea of me and consider my side the enemy just because.
 

Euphor!a

Banned
Then by doing so, you're just confirming their suspicions.

I don't know how many times I need to say it. There isn't a magic moral pixie that flies around and tells people "lol ok bro, your viewpoints are messed up. I'm here with my magic pixie dust to correct you!"

When nobody's views are challenged, they stay that way forever.

I am that magic pixie. Your viewpoints are wrong. I am here to correct you.
 

JordanN

Banned
I don't give a shit about confirming their suspicions because their suspicions were confirmed the moment they learned I was a liberal so again, why should I bother dealing with people who hate the very idea of me and consider my side the enemy just because.

Because there's a possibility they were indoctrinated at young age, surrounded themselves with like minded people, or had a life changing event that tipped them to believe in a certain thing?

Ask yourself this, where do you think the idea of hating a liberal came from?

Do you think it's just natural and something that followed humanity since caveman times, or could it be a recent phenomenon where one dissenter and even a liberal themselves managed to convince other people to share the same viewpoint?
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Because there's a possibility they were indoctrinated at young age, surrounded themselves with like minded people, or had a life changing event that tipped them to believe in a certain thing?

Ask yourself this, where do you think the idea of hating a liberal came from?

Do you think it's just natural and something that followed humanity since caveman times, or could it be a recent phenomenon where one dissenter and even a liberal themselves managed to convince other people to share the same viewpoint?

We know where the idea of hating liberals came from. Its not a fucking mystery. My point is I don't give a shit to fight decades worth of partisan bull shit propoganda when there are far better ways to spend my time and energy, both for political causes and more mundane ones.
 

JordanN

Banned
We know where the idea of hating liberals came from. Its not a fucking mystery. My point is I don't give a shit to fight decades worth of partisan bull shit propoganda when there are far better ways to spend my time and energy, both for political causes and more mundane ones.

It's a mystery to me. Because I have my own ideas about where it came from, but it might not be the same as where you think it came from.

So I want to know what caused the strife that made conservatives and liberals never talk to each other with apparently no solution to ever fix it.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
It's a mystery to me. Because I have my own ideas about where it come from, but it might not be the same as where you think it came from.

So I want to know what caused the strife that made conservatives and liberals never talk to each other with apparently no solution to ever fix it.

Its not a mystery at all. Just turn on any Right Wing news show, podcast, radio station or the like and its pretty damn easy to see where this shit comes from. Then you look at who pays for this shit and who they're associated with and it becomes even more clear. That or you can just look at things like the Southern Strategy of the GOP.
 

JordanN

Banned
Its not a mystery at all. Just turn on any Right Wing news show, podcast, radio station or the like and its pretty damn easy to see where this shit comes from. Then you look at who pays for this shit and who they're associated with and it becomes even more clear. That or you can just look at things like the Southern Strategy of the GOP.

So you think race is the only answer?

So what about conservatives who are black,asian,jewish,hispanic etc? Or even this election when Blue states turned Red? They're all just magically racist, unreasonable people now?
 

Osukaa

Member
Left here but I think both Parties need to be cleaned out and have some new blood in there. I'm Anti Gun, All for Universal Healthcare, I believe in Global Warming but would hate to give up my car, I hate how animals are raised to be eaten, yet I love myself some Carne Asado or Pollo Asada, I am not religious at all but I find myself going to Buddhist Temples and praying. I am against using Marijuana myself yet i'm not against others using it for health reasons..... I guess I should change my Left Lean to just confused lol.

Politics in general really are a touchy subject as we all have so many different views and I want to say that I understand others viewpoints but some are just so ignorant to me to even believe that people can have that opinion.. I guess some can say the same as mine though.
 

Euphor!a

Banned
So you think race is the only answer?

So what about conservatives who are black,asian,jewish,hispanic etc? Or even this election when Blue states turned Red? They're all just magically racist, unreasonable people now?

You make it sound like it is impossible for someone to believe in something or someone that is in direct contradiction with their interests.
 

JordanN

Banned
You make it sound like it is impossible for someone to believe in something or someone that is in direct contradiction with their interests.

But what would they have to gain from doing that?

I remember when Trump voters were asked on GAF why did they vote, many said it was because they wanted gun rights, lower taxes, smaller government or were very Evangelical.

Very rarely if at all did I ever see race brought up as the reason they jumped to Trump.
 
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