SnowFlakeCake
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It's good for consumers though, waiting until November to pick up an XB1 as I know sales will be insane is last year is anything to go by.
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What Does Sony Have For The Holidays?
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It's good for consumers though, waiting until November to pick up an XB1 as I know sales will be insane is last year is anything to go by.
SolidSnakex
Member
Like I mentioned in the SW thread, they specifically mention that it's a SW themed PS4. So it's likely a case that they're using the black PS4 because Sony hasn't officially announced the SE console. That's probably coming at E3 like they did with Destiny.
EmptySpace
Banned
an r2d2 ps4 will be so freaking awesome.
Chobel
Member
Hi?
Welcome.
Newtype-001
Member
And so the cycle continues.
Seems we are at the ps4 can and has sold without major exclusives.
Some comments also suggest that we are moving back towards sony has no games that period so i guess we have one foot in one foot out.
Nyc.
Seems we are at the ps4 can and has sold without major exclusives.
Some comments also suggest that we are moving back towards sony has no games that period so i guess we have one foot in one foot out.
Nyc.
What a mysterious jogo industry.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Didn't the Destiny bundle retail for 449 so it was not even a freebie.
Chobel
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No problem. Welcome to GAF
BlackBuzzard
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Icyflamez96
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Nightengale
Member
I was referring to Xbox having the special 'buy an Xbox, free one retail game' deal freebie they had which they did during the Destiny launch week.
Iorv3th
Member
I thought what he was getting at was that Destiny sold better according to NPD on xboxone (i believe). But the ps4 bundles were not counted in that. The xbox one 'bundles' were counted because it was not a packaged in game, but a 'choose your free game' thing.
El-Pistolero
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An amazing use of that GIF! LOL
Chobel
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IAmRandom31
Banned
$349.00 Star Wars SE bundle. Resistance and First Order variations. One black with the Order sigil and one White with the Resistance sigil
$299 regular SKU Black and White variations
Potential titles:
Persona 5
No Mans Sky
Rime
The Tomorrow Children
The Witness
Ratchet and Clank
Dragon Quest Heroes
Hot Shots Golf
Cosmic Star Heroine
Killing Floor 2
Volume
Drawn to Death
I personally think Uncharted collection and Kingdom Hearts HD collection will hit over the holiday season as well. Along with other things announced at E3.
So despite the crap spewed from many people here the holiday season could be something fantastic on the Ps4 unless your head is wrapped tight with the " HUGE AAA " banner. Hell I'll take Rime over anything coming out on Xbox or Wii U alone, except Splatoon. That looks tempting enough to purchase a system over.
All I know is I am going to have a ton to play all year long and can't wait. Already got tons to play. Having trouble figuring out how to pay for all the rest
$299 regular SKU Black and White variations
Potential titles:
Persona 5
No Mans Sky
Rime
The Tomorrow Children
The Witness
Ratchet and Clank
Dragon Quest Heroes
Hot Shots Golf
Cosmic Star Heroine
Killing Floor 2
Volume
Drawn to Death
I personally think Uncharted collection and Kingdom Hearts HD collection will hit over the holiday season as well. Along with other things announced at E3.
So despite the crap spewed from many people here the holiday season could be something fantastic on the Ps4 unless your head is wrapped tight with the " HUGE AAA " banner. Hell I'll take Rime over anything coming out on Xbox or Wii U alone, except Splatoon. That looks tempting enough to purchase a system over.
All I know is I am going to have a ton to play all year long and can't wait. Already got tons to play. Having trouble figuring out how to pay for all the rest
Katana_Strikes
Member
The problem is they can't really announce a bundle yet because that could really kill sales of the console up till November. They've got Batman to deal with first then come July/August announce an MGS bundle and then they'll announce the Star Wars one afterwards.
It would be the same as announcing a price drop now for November. It would totally kill sales.
It would be the same as announcing a price drop now for November. It would totally kill sales.
EmptySpace
Banned
again, why are people always saying 299?
i can't for the life of me figure out why people expect this much of a price cut.
i mean, are people dreaming? is that actually their wish so they can finally buy a ps4? i don't get where that figure is coming from.
i can't for the life of me figure out why people expect this much of a price cut.
i mean, are people dreaming? is that actually their wish so they can finally buy a ps4? i don't get where that figure is coming from.
$50 price drops arent as common. Plus with Morpheus launching early next year they will want the entry point for it as low as possible.
PS4 outsold XB1 2:1 in September. Wasn't much of a counter for Microsoft.
Ah so you know Sony's lineup for the rest of the year. Excellent, can you share the details with the rest of the class?
Yea i dont get it either. I suppose you can argue that Sony will follow MS's lead from last holiday season and slash prices to win this holiday season. However if i was running Sony, i wouldn't drop it unless it was starting to trend down prior to it. 9>3.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Perhaps you should have named them then, instead of giving us your xbone highlights from the past year?
Bl@de
Member
They have Battlefront marketing. I won't play the game (don't like MP Shooters) but this is a big one. Along with a new Star Wars movie (where the original cast reappears) and a Holiday release ... this game is going to sell big time. Sony will probably make a big Star Wars bundle for 399€ (PS4, Battlefront, EP7 cinema ticket or EP4-6 blurays maybe) along with ads everywhere ... this is a topseller for them. I will play Persona 5 in the meantime -.-
After last year's holiday season, I expect Sony to have more aggressive bundles this year. I could totally see at least two or even more of these bundles for the holiday season:
$349 Battlefront PS4 bundle
$349 PS4 bundle with Bloodborne, The Order and TLOU:R/Driveculb
$349 PS4 bundle with MGS5 and Batman Arkham Knight
$299 PS4 standalone
$349 Battlefront PS4 bundle
$349 PS4 bundle with Bloodborne, The Order and TLOU:R/Driveculb
$349 PS4 bundle with MGS5 and Batman Arkham Knight
$299 PS4 standalone
All of those seem doable except the $299 standalone. Sony has no reason to go that low right now. Maybe in 2016.
We don't all have to agree on the base price, but I and many others have already explained the reason why Sony might drop it to $299. $349 is too insignificant of a price drop IMO.
I don't see a $50 price drop as insignificant. Especially since it's the first one for the PS4.
Just keep in mind that the XB1 had been $349 since last year's holiday season. If the PS4 has its price slashed to $349 in October, it would be almost a year since the XB1 was at that price. Most causal gamers who have no idea about the hardware differences will definitely see it as insignificant.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
True. I would not expect a bundle announcement until October.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I see $299 too. Time for total market saturation. $349 is bleh.
I will buy PS4 if the slash the price to $299
if Persona 5 is coming out this year
Yep, this is another way to elaborate on my reason.
I understand the confusion, but that is never what I meant at all.
I wasn't having at go at people for using 'exclusive marketing deals' as a rebutting against lack of exclusives. I was wondering why people were seeming to care so much about 'exclusive marketing deals' when it's something that affects them in no way as a consumer. But yeah, if you're talking about how the PS4 is going to sell during the holiday, then it's obviously relevant.
It wasn't meant to be a rebuttal against lack of exclusive games. Personally speaking, I don't think there's a lack of upcoming exclusive games for PS4. I'm a fan of most of Sony Computer Entertainment's first-party games, I know they'll deliver lots of good games during the generation. I don't have a PS4 by the way. If I consider it to be not worth it right now due to the catalogue of games being limited, then that's perfectly fine of course. I need to have a go at other people for that.
Basically, there seems to be some conflation on the topic between:
- "What first-party games does Sony Computer Entertainment as a publisher have for me as a consumer this holiday that will be interesting to me? (e.g. Ratchet & Clank)"
And:
- "What does SCE have for the holiday to be able to have a good commercial performance with the PS4; and sell a lot of PS4's (e.g. Battlefront marketing, multiplatform games adding up the the catalogue of games, big advertising campaign, high-profile exclusive/first-party game, price drop etc"
Chuck Norris
Banned
A proactive strategy will always beat a reactive one. It's the reason why PS2 was so competitive for so long
Vallen Valiant
Banned
Most people who say 299 is assuming Sony had delayed a price drop for this long precisely for the purpose of maximum impact. In theory PS4 could have been 349 last Christmas, Sony just decided against it.
One massive cut is better for sales than two smaller cuts spread out. Seriously, the issue is that 50 dollars is too low of a price cut if they really wanted to expand their user base. It is either 100 dollars or no cuts.
You're right, I apologize.
And no I'm just a Ratchet & Clank fan. ^.^ And no I don't think companies would hire astrofurers for just one game that doesn't even have a trailer and where the marketing cycle hasn't picked up yet. That wouldn't be very effective I think.
Considering many people don't seem aware of Ratchet & Clank so much, but are often asking about what first-party games SCE has for the holiday, then I do think it's a valid answer though. Maybe people shouldn't constantly be bringing up this topic in the first place.
After E3, after the first trailer and gameplay footage will have been released, people will probably take notice of Ratchet & Clank though.
Anyway, I apologize and I understand the annoyance.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
You're right, I apologize.
And no I'm just a Ratchet & Clank fan. And no I don't think companies would hire astrofurers for just one game that doesn't even have a trailer and where the marketing cycle hasn't picked up yet. That wouldn't be very effective I think.
Considering many people don't seem aware of Ratchet & Clank so much, but are often asking about what first-party games SCE has for the holiday, then I do think it's a valid answer though. Maybe people shouldn't constantly bringing up this topic in the first place.
After E3, after the first trailer and gameplay footage, people will probably take notice of Ratchet & Clank though.
Anyway, I apologize and I understand the confusion.
Somebody posted a Ratchet & Clank picture in another thread today, and I immediately sighed and thought it was you again. You're tainted, mang!
freefornow
Gold Member
Anyone feel that the sales of Battlefront will be somewhat dented by lack of single player campaign? I know there is an offline component, but thats not the same as a single player campaign.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You're right, I apologize.
And no I'm just a Ratchet & Clank fan. ^.^ And no I don't think companies would hire astrofurers for just one game that doesn't even have a trailer and where the marketing cycle hasn't picked up yet. That wouldn't be very effective I think.
Considering many people don't seem aware of Ratchet & Clank so much, but are often asking about what first-party games SCE has for the holiday, then I do think it's a valid answer though. Maybe people shouldn't constantly be bringing up this topic in the first place.
After E3, after the first trailer and gameplay footage will have been released, people will probably take notice of Ratchet & Clank though.
Anyway, I apologize and I understand the annoyance.
There's a lot of people interested in Ratchet and Clank.....its just we're in slumber. Hopefully we get info at E3.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
$299 is just Sony throwing money down the drain. You don't do that when you are in the financial strife that Sony is in. Especially not when you are already outselling your competitor by almost 2:1.
I see $349 with some heavy game bundling this year, and a $299 'Slim' next year.
Of course, I could be wrong.
I see $349 with some heavy game bundling this year, and a $299 'Slim' next year.
Of course, I could be wrong.
Black Pewter
Member
CoD's success would say no.
tokilamockingbrd
Member
when people buy a console they consider the entire library on games for said consoles. I personally don't believe the primary factor is the most recent big release unless the specific customer is a fan of said big release.
What do you mean exactly?
Tekken is of course made by Bandai Namco, not by SCE. It's multi-platform.
