Blackleg-sanji1
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You probably gave up on it like most of the smart people back than. I still too this day don't remember the names of your first party members.
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What's the biggest drop in quality between a game and its immediate follow-up?
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TheRatedD
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For me it's the multiplayer in Uncharted getting worse and worse. Uncharted 2 was nearly perfect, even after they changed the damage levels. Then UC3 mp was still ok, but really unbalanced. And now UC4 mp lacks any soul in my eyes. I've ditched UC4 and have gone back to playing Uncharted 2 mp on PS3 instead. I don't know why NaughtyDog didn't listen to the community when making the mp for part 4. I can't stress how disappointed I am that my favorite multiplayer has just gotten worse and worse with each installment. And with part 4, they act like all this free DLC is a good thing, when it's content that shoulda been in the game at launch. Both Uncharted 2 & 3 had a theater mode at launch, and part 4 just now got it when nobody is playing it anymore, and instead of giving us a classic mode, which every fan wanted since the first beta, they go and give us Kill Confirmed instead.
Think about that. The entire community since the first beta just wanted a classic mode, and after so many months, instead they give us Kill Confirmed...
I just don't understand them...
Think about that. The entire community since the first beta just wanted a classic mode, and after so many months, instead they give us Kill Confirmed...
I just don't understand them...
{insert code here}
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It happened twice in the same franchise. FF IX > FF X then FFXII to FFXIII.
bishopcruz
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Phantasy Star 2 to Phantasy Star 3, PS3 wasn't bad, but man was it a disappointment compared to how good 2 was.
Sad Affleck
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NightShift
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Red Faction: Guerrilla to Armageddon. Just take everything that made Guerrilla great and throw it in the trash. Fuck. Makes it worse that Armageddon is just a unremarkable, forgettable game.
CharminUltra
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Deus Ex to Invisible War
what
the
FUCK
Runner-up: MGS to MGS2. From short, tight, and sweet to big, dumb, whiny, repetitive, and rambling.
what
the
FUCK
Runner-up: MGS to MGS2. From short, tight, and sweet to big, dumb, whiny, repetitive, and rambling.
Shalashaska161
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Ultima VII to VIII has to be up there.
CertifiedFP
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Valkyria Chronicles to Valkyria Chronicles 2.
I cannot explain further, lest I accidentally summon into this world a demon drawn to resentment and facepalms.
I cannot explain further, lest I accidentally summon into this world a demon drawn to resentment and facepalms.
Demoskinos
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Insanity. Saints Row 3 is the defining entry in that franchise.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Ninja Gaiden 2-3
Son Of Sparda
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/threadŌkami;221048131 said:
reaganator
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Ugh.. seriously.. III had a pretty damn good plot what with so many characters involved. Geddoe, Jacques, Watari, Masked Dude, the Zexen knights.. I really enjoyed the different perspectives.
I fell in love with the game when it was on a demo. I think the demo also had Wild Arms 3. I was sold on the PS2.
Then V came along and did a pretty good job as well. But III was awesome. Really sucks we probably won't ever get to visit Harmonia.
{insert code here}
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Forgot about Invisible War. How ironic. That's got to be up towards the top of the list for sure although I haven't played DMX2.
The new characters in 2 include some of the series very best. Mordin and Legion in particular are better than anyone in 1 outside of Wrex.
My pick too.
NinjaCoachZ
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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward --> Zero Time Dilemma is one of the biggest cases of blue balls I've ever felt with a game series.
SpartanN92
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New Vegas to Fallout 4
And I know this will be an unpopular answer but Halo 4 to Halo 5.
And I know this will be an unpopular answer but Halo 4 to Halo 5.
Now that I think about it, pretty much every Mega Man X game from X2 onward with the exception of 7->8. 7 is an abomination and 8 is alright.
This too. This thread makes LoS2 kinda scary considering how incredibly dull and unremarkable the first game was, it's hard to imagine how worse the sequel can be lol.
This too. This thread makes LoS2 kinda scary considering how incredibly dull and unremarkable the first game was, it's hard to imagine how worse the sequel can be lol.
Masterspeed
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Probably an unpopular opinion but
Gears 3 - Gears Judgement
I mean, what the fuck was Judgement? I didn't even beat it, I just felt like I was playing a fan made game.
EDIT: I decided to check out the reviews of Judgement and realised it's received some pretty good scores... I guess I'll have to try another attempt sometime this week with BC. I hope it changes my judgement
Gears 3 - Gears Judgement
I mean, what the fuck was Judgement? I didn't even beat it, I just felt like I was playing a fan made game.
EDIT: I decided to check out the reviews of Judgement and realised it's received some pretty good scores... I guess I'll have to try another attempt sometime this week with BC. I hope it changes my judgement
Hah...
Honey Bunny
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Mass Effect 1 to 2. Most disappointed I've ever been in a sequel.
CharminUltra
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You can't be the "new kid" forever!
Funyarinpa
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Been reading the whole thread, waiting for this.
VLR:
-Relatively tame, but interesting, atmosphere
-Multifaceted characters (except Quark, Clover and Alice and tbh the other six was enough) that tie into the series meta and to each other's pasts in incredible ways
-Treatise on the Prisoner's Dilemma, and some incredible scenarios resulting from that
-Practically brand new OST save for a couple tracks
-Incredible endings
-Good old pseudoscience
ZTD:
-The previous game was shat on for going 3D, so let's crank that up to 11 and also turn it into a shittily animated video game, because who wants to read visual novels amirite
-Too much violence with no substance
-The game tries to continue from the emotional high of VLR's finale but does so while introducing absolutely nothing fucking new and not even paying any proper homage or thought to the previous games
-Too short
-Thanks to the Team and Fragment system, character interactions are limited, there is no character development to speak of whatsoever, and there's almost no long and proper storyline
-Reuses old tracks and remixes WAY too much
cartman414
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Boo. Zelda 2's aged much better.
That would be my first answer.
DarkConfidant
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Deus Ex 1 to 2.
Killzone 2 to 3.
SOCOM Confrontation to SOCOM 4.
God of War 3 to Ascension.
Valkyria Chronicles to 2.
Killzone 2 to 3.
SOCOM Confrontation to SOCOM 4.
God of War 3 to Ascension.
Valkyria Chronicles to 2.
illmatic22
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Years ago a friend let me borrow the first two Devil May Cry games and yeah, drop in quality indeed.
matrix-cat
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Oh shit, this is the one for me. GTA III to VC to SA was such a wild ride, with Rockstar introducing so many new gameplay ideas and expanding the scope, honing their craft, and then GTA IV came around and they went right back to square one. Further back, even. GTA IV is significantly more limited in scope and freedom than even GTA III was. That game is so strict, so heavily scripted that it's like your presence as the player is more of a nuisance than anything else. Car chases where you literally aren't allowed to catch the bad guy until you've seen all the scripted stuff along the way, and every other mission is just a miserable shootout in a dreary warehouse.
I feel like GTA IV's success led to so many awful trends in the industry, too. I blame Rockstar for all these games where your character only moves at walking speed when you push the analogue stick all the way forward, and I'll never forgive them
Forceatowulf
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Devil May Cry to Devil May Cry 2.
THERE IS NO OTHER ANSWER
DMC1 defined and revolutionized an entire genre. How do they follow that up? By doing nearly the exact opposite of what made the first game so god damn amazing. That's cosmic levels of fuckery, folks.
THERE IS NO OTHER ANSWER
DMC1 defined and revolutionized an entire genre. How do they follow that up? By doing nearly the exact opposite of what made the first game so god damn amazing. That's cosmic levels of fuckery, folks.
leesmapman
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Alundra 2 was pretty fun.
Dark Souls 2 was great. Best pvp and replayability in the series. It didn't have quite the same highs and the lows were considerably lower than DS1 but I found it overall more consistent and thankfully the awful parts like Harvest Valley were incredibly short lived. Like 2-4 minute runs through them if you knew what you were doing. Save for the optional bosses the DLCs were amongst the best add ons I've ever played in a game. DS1 had great pvp too but I will not gloss over things like Blight Town and the second half of the game. Tomb of the Giants was absolute garbage in terms of game design. Even though I can probably run through it with my eyes closed now it does not change the fact that learning it was an unfun slog. Although I can see why people would consider DS2 to be the worst offender at least there were redeeming qualities for me. Soul Memory is indefensible though and agape ring was a slap in the face.
It was shocking how mediocre DS3 was in comparison to Bloodborne though, which is my pick. The auto stun/ poise frame system was complete garbage. There was no point in my multiple playthroughs/ many hours of PVP that I ever felt like this was an improvement. PVP was completely broken. 90% of the locations and lore were uninspired and half of the appeal was vapid fan service. Took me a while to reach this conclusion but the more time goes by the more I turn around on DS3. I felt like I was lying to myself before when as I realize my contempt for it now. It does a lot of things well but nothing I felt was worthy of an entirely new game. It needed at least an extra year in the oven.
Where DS2 took many risks and failed in several key ways at least it succeeded in others. DS3 played it too safe and came out worse for it. Meanwhile Bloodborne continues to be the game of the generation.
A less controversial answer would be comparing New Vegas to Fallout 4.
It was shocking how mediocre DS3 was in comparison to Bloodborne though, which is my pick. The auto stun/ poise frame system was complete garbage. There was no point in my multiple playthroughs/ many hours of PVP that I ever felt like this was an improvement. PVP was completely broken. 90% of the locations and lore were uninspired and half of the appeal was vapid fan service. Took me a while to reach this conclusion but the more time goes by the more I turn around on DS3. I felt like I was lying to myself before when as I realize my contempt for it now. It does a lot of things well but nothing I felt was worthy of an entirely new game. It needed at least an extra year in the oven.
Where DS2 took many risks and failed in several key ways at least it succeeded in others. DS3 played it too safe and came out worse for it. Meanwhile Bloodborne continues to be the game of the generation.
A less controversial answer would be comparing New Vegas to Fallout 4.
Zero Escape series as a whole really lol. VLR wasn't bad but it felt like disappointing follow up that was going a bit too ridiculous, and then ZTD comes around to blow my mind in so many bad ways that went so far beyond VLR. I pretty much viewed 999 as a very nice standalone since.
Forceatowulf
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The people posting ME2 are blowing my mind... At least it was, objectively, a competently made video game. It may not have been what you want.. but at least it was still a well crafted game on it's own that many people loved.
DMC2 though? lol Not so much.
DMC2 though? lol Not so much.