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[Mahonay]

Last two weeks have been so bad that Trump not doing something horrible is enough for some to say see, he did something positive

Trump also has a long history of taking credit for doing nothing.

 

[Matt]

I never thought Trump would put LGBT issues in much danger through any choice of his own. The only threat was if just didn't care enough to stop the others in his administration.

Doesn't change how awful he is overall. Someone can be bad and not literally the worst in every single way.

 

[The Fronde]

I can't think of this person as anything but evil now. I'm ashamed I didn't take this guy seriously and laughed at him years ago.

 

[watershed]

Trump also has a long history of taking credit for doing nothing.

Yeah exactly. All Trump did was decide to do nothing. Granted he could have chosen to do something terrible, but he instead chose to do nothing, period. This isn't a new EO to help the LGBTQ community. its just nothing, period.

 

[takriel]

"That said, ..."

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Well, good.
That's probably the one positive thing I'll say in a Trump thread for the next four years.

"That said, ..."

Lol, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Nokterian]

I don't trust this fuck face for a second.

This..he flips flops about anything.

 

[norinrad]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/obama-trump-protections-lgbt-workers.html

He's not that insane! Woohoo

Don't be jubilant. He could still do it through the back door.

This is a guy who constantly makes people live in fear.

 

[Cyan]

Last two weeks have been so bad that Trump not doing something horrible is enough for some to say see, he did something positive

The only thing necessary for the triumph of good is for evil men to do nothing.

 

[CountAntonius]

I hope so.

 

[theaface]

Making a statement just to clarify that you won't be discriminating against a bunch of people based on their gender or sexual preferences is nothing to be celebrated. That shit should be totally automatic and go without saying. That something even needed to be said at all is the real tragedy here.

 

[And_Gignac]

he is using the community as a shield. He knows white males can be gay too so his base won't mind it that much.

 

[Apathy]

makes me wonder about that tweet that mentioned the white house "leaks" balloons to see how they they play out and if they are too horrible they kinda don't go with them.

 

[The Ummah]

Last two weeks have been so bad that Trump not doing something horrible is enough for some to say see, he did something positive

Edit: Broken link on mobile, had an appropriate ad on the top of this post and can't get it to link.

Anyway, it's been a long couple weeks. I'm still not convinced this is over, but...I'll take it? Ugh.

 

[Feorax]

I give it to the end of the week.

 

[Volimar]

How long before the White House becomes a banned news source on GAF? Gonna need a more credible source.

 

[Koyuga]

Trump is just waiting until everyone calms down. We need to keep pressuring them about it so they don't change their mind. Don't give them an inch.

 

[UberTag]

Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #76: "Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies."

There's enough chaos being fuelled that merits legitimate outrage that we don't need these trial balloon / gaslighting stunts on top of it.
These are all forms of terrorizing the populace and I'm already tired of it.

 

[squidyj]

he's probably only doing it because it's the opposite of what pence wants and he wants to assert dominance or some other insane bullshit.

 

[Mr Swine]

I don't trust him. I could see Trump creating a EO to lump LGBTQ, minority's and others together and outright strip their rights and make them a easy target for people :/

 

[Paganmoon]

Hehe, he's going to get praise for basically doing nothing.

 

[clearacell]

I think he only did this because he didn't want anymore protests for at least a week more.

 

[Ashes]

Good on him.

People are complicated. Good people can be racist; and racists can help old ladies cross the street.

This administration may be running a shit show, but if this bears out, it's not 100% omnishambles at least.

 

[Zen Aku]

This..he flips flops about anything.

If you flip on everything, you'll flop for anything.

 

[Alienfan]

How fucking generous of him

 

[mAcOdIn]

he's probably only doing it because it's the opposite of what pence wants and he wants to assert dominance or some other insane bullshit.

I don't think that's fair. I hate Donald Trump. But, he's obviously got some kind of convictions of his own. He's doing nearly exactly what he said he'd do. Like it or not I think we need to accept the fact that he's going to attempt to do most of which he said he'd do. I don't know why, I don't know if he cares about the LBGT community or not, I dunno, but it seems unfair to me to assume these are spiteful decisions made on a whim.

 

[Nydius]

Maybe I'm just too cynical but my take away from this was he's basically booting the issue to Congress where he probably knows there's at least half a dozen varieties of the 'Religious Freedom Act' bills (or cobbled together amendments they'll try to push onto other bills) are floating around.

He can't be so ignorant as to know the base who voted him in are the same people who tend to be overwhelmingly anti-LGBTQ. Just can't help but feel he wants Congress to take the heat on this one.

 

[BlitzerRadic]

Do you have any proof?

He's never said or done anything homophobic to my recollection. Plus he's been a TV celebrity for a while, seems crazy you can be homophobe working in hollywood.

 

[danthefan]

We should all be relieved and pleased at this.

But you just can't believe he won't sneak something insidious into one of his other EOs that'll undo the one he isn't repealing.

Do you have any proof?

You should have to prove he is, not that he isn't.

 

[Poor GRIMES]

Don't believe him, sorry.

 

[takriel]

Don't believe him, sorry.

Don't be sorry. It's the smart thing to do.

 

[Razmos]

. It uses stronger language than any Republican president has before in favor of equal legal protections for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people

I imagine that isnt very hard to do, I doubt previous republican presidents have spoken up much in favour of LGBT people

 

[Bleepey]

Hypernormalisation. Every 5 shitty thing he does he does 1 good thing. Last week was destroying TPP this week is gay fights. He may talk mining jobs or even black issues next week. Calling it now.

 

[Rootbeer]

Relieved to have at least one issue left alone (for now.) so we have more energy to focus on some of the others which already are requiring the fullest attention.

And as a member of the LGBTQ community, after we've been making some important strides in recent years I frankly am not mentally prepared to have to go through the fleecing of our earnest work. So my mental state is really appreciative.

I'm curious how people like Milo would have reacted if it had been the opposite, though. Wonder what sort of mental gymnastics he'd come up with to go along with it.

 

[Zelias]

Still don't trust him. Let's see what he does in the future, or when his party moves to block LGBTQ rights under the guise of religious freedom.

 

[gofreak]

Relieved to have at least one issue left alone (for now.) so we have more energy to focus on some of the others which already are requiring the fullest attention.

And as a member of the LGBTQ community, after we've been making some important strides in recent years I frankly am not mentally prepared to have to go through the fleecing of our earnest work. So my mental state is really appreciative.

I'm curious how people like Milo would have reacted if it had been the opposite, though. Wonder what sort of mental gymnastics he'd come up with to go along with it.

It's ok to feel relieved, but I think we need to remain guarded, and united with other vulnerable groups. I'm not sure one can be too cynical when it comes to Trump and his administration, but the idea of splitting the left via 'pet' minorities that are left vulnerable afterward, springs to mind. Gay people have too recent a history to feel complacent.

Also: we have to remember this is all coming from an administration for whom double-speak is the norm. For whom the immigration ban isn't about Islam. Etc. etc. It's not hard to imagine Trump reconciling 'protection of gay people' with other actions in the future that do the complete opposite. Orders can always be 'preserved' while having exceptions added to them, for example. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself or to be too pessimistic or negative here, but I just say all that to say that we shouldn't be complacent.

 

[Rembrandt]

I never thought Trump would put LGBT issues in much danger through any choice of his own. The only threat was if just didn't care enough to stop the others in his administration.

Which is essentially the same thing.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

how? He has been supportive of lbgt rights. i'm sure the people around him will try to push him the other way. he's clearly not a homophobe, obviously his party tries to push him on their shitty agendas but its never seemed like he's made it a focal point to really push that fuckery

he uses everything to stroke his own ego so i didn't see a reason to consider that a red flag imo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-marriage-equality_us_56af63c8e4b00b033aafb496

His VP is Pence. I'm kinda done thinking this dude was ever pandering bullshit for votes, and who he picks for SCOTUS will be very telling. (for a variety of issues)

 

[Polk]

Does Trump need EO to undo Obama's EO or can Congress vote it out?
If the latter, I assume they will do that.

 

[Matt]

Which is essentially the same thing.

Yeah, as far as effect goes.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Hypernormalisation. Every 5 shitty thing he does he does 1 good thing. Last week was destroying TPP this week is gay fights. He may talk mining jobs or even black issues next week. Calling it now.

Indeed.
He has already dwtainrd American citizens, and banned Muslims from coming into the country based on their nationality and religion.

This doesnt change anything.

 

[EGM1966]

All it means I suspect is the analysts predicted a way bigger shitstorm than even Trump and his cabal would want to endure and they've shelved any such move for the moment.

I'd stay pretty vigilant if I was in that demographic right now. Very vigilant.

 

[Koomaster]

Even if he doesn't target the LGBT community directly and even if he doesn't go through with a Religious Freedoms EO/bills, don't think that gives anyone a right to be complacent about this administration. He's negatively affected so many other areas of the gov't and citizens that it's more than enough to stay fired up and fight him, the administration and our representatives.

And yes with a completely controlled republican gov't I would be gobsmacked if we didn't see Religious Freedom type legislation being drafted and pushed through. It's too much of a juicy fruit that plays to the heart of their base for them to ignore. Trump doesn't have to sign an EO to make something like this a reality as it will happen on its own.

Edit

All it means I suspect is the analysts predicted a way bigger shitstorm than even Trump and his cabal would want to endure and they've shelved any such move for the moment.

I'd stay pretty vigilant if I was in that demographic right now. Very vigilant.

I would see it more of a power play than anything. Right now Trump is seen as doing all the heavy lifting. Was probably told to save something like this for senators to draft to help shore up their numbers for midterm reelections. Can't really be in total power when the people under you propping your administration up are losing their jobs. It's 100% a game for these people and they will make no move against Trump so long as they are guaranteed reelection. So every so often he needs to throw them a bone so they look "good" too.

 

[EdibleKnife]

"That said, ..."

This. There's still that "First Amendment Defense Act" that isn't a direct act against the LGBTQ+ but will still make them second class citizens

 

[ahoyhoy]

Doesn't seem like it

No shadow president Pence. He's just there. Doubt they even talk

Bannon is the shadow president

Damn Pence got played.

Brought in those Evangelicals though.

 

[MechaX]

Nah, I don't trust him at all at this point.

He'll either try to sneak LGBT discrimination in some seemingly unrelated EO by the end of the week, or he'll just change his mind because he flip flops on fucking everything and just goes with what Bannon tells him to do.

 

[Ouroboros]

almost all of these posts are either "i hope so" or "i don't believe it".


I'm in the latter camp. I don't believe it for a second. But I hope I'm wrong.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Yeah, no. I don't believe this for one second, specially so with Pence as his VP who once said he believes in converting gay people straight via shock therapy.

 

[tedrotheredro]

We'll see how that LGBTQ anti-discrimination works out when the next bathroom bill debate arrives.

 

[driggonny]

Don't believe it.

Trump has shown time and time again that he is willing to straight up lie and say anything he feels like to brush off criticism. Doesn't mean his actions will reflect it.