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Why a gay law professor is trying to shut down women-only Wonder Woman screenings.
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I'm going to repost this since apparently nobody watched it the first time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrqYb0Pcp0k
Future Foundation
Member
You are two-for-two in brain dead, intellectually dishonest comparisons. You're not going on a "different ride", you're all on the same fucking ride.
True, but for someone so concerned with language, this implies all gay bars are male gay bars because that's clearly what he's talking about. Just interesting how layered sexism is.
I'm not sure what you're confused about. It's a pretty common trend on sites like GAF to dismiss people purely because of whatever group they may fall into. Them mentioning in the title that he's gay serves to give him some form of credibility to those who would try to dismiss his argument based on his background.
It's pretty obvious, but the only reason they're doing it is because on some level it actually matters.
benicillin
Banned
No, that would still be a terrible comparison.
This whole thing is being wildly exacerbated by everyone who glances at it, and wow how ridiculous some of the posts in here are still manages to surprise me even after all this time.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Pretty much, not sure what's so special about this one person's stupid take. He's not better than any of the other people whining about it.
And it's a two showings once and that's it... It'd be like if one time only they only get one car in the roller coaster only be women for two runs of the roller coaster and then it was never done again. That's about as close as you can get and it's still not all the way there. That's how stupid it is.
I'm gay. Being gay doesn't preclude someone from being a misogynist. It's literally an event to celebrate a female superhero, it's ladies night.
Everyone who has a problem with this I want to see evidence of filing suits against bars for having ladies night events.
excelsiorlef
Member
But he has no extra credibility to speak because he's gay...
That was my point.
Him being gay means fuck nothing.
LinkAndEpona
Banned
You guys just aren't getting it. The important fact is that you have to be separated. It doesn't matter that it was for a few showings.
Edit: How many times does it need to be repeated that telling someone to go elsewhere is unacceptable?
benicillin
Banned
Something something hashtag not your shield.
old manatee
Banned
"You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an asshole."
Men and women can watch the movie together on the same night irrespective of there being a women specific room.
benicillin
Banned
They should follow up with a woman's only screening of The Beguiled.
How do you feel about fraternities?
You don't have to be separated. How dense can you possibly be?
lol, don't ask that question.
Future Foundation
Member
Oh, I get it. You're the one desperately trying to shoehorn some garbage "buh discrimination" examples to prop up your horrendous argument, and ignoring how this situation is in no way like any of those.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I'm not sure what you're confused about. Stupid ideas don't become less stupid because people from a certain group say them. What he said and his rationale behind it is still incredibly ignorant and holds no value, whether he is gay or not matters nothing in the conversation.
Emerson
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I could not possibly be moved to give a shit about a women's only showing of one movie in one theater.
But I find it hard to disagree that it's discrimination. I think as a society we either need to be okay or not okay with discrimination, and saying it's fine to discriminate against men but not against women etc. is not a tenable way to handle it.
But I find it hard to disagree that it's discrimination. I think as a society we either need to be okay or not okay with discrimination, and saying it's fine to discriminate against men but not against women etc. is not a tenable way to handle it.
Fox Mulder
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Some people really live sad fucking lives.
I mean, even then that's a false equivalency. It'd be like if the Catholic church normally did ordain both men and women to be priests but one day they happened to offer an optional room or whatever where women could be ordained.
Lmao
benicillin
Banned
The point is, if men wanted to hold a Guy's Night showing of a film in this manner, there should be nothing stopping them.
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Transhuman
Unconfirmed Member
An event that prohibits people of a particular gender from attending is discriminatory. I truly don't know how to explain that any more simply. The fact that it's for one night is completely irrelevant and the fact that people keep bringing up "but it's just fot one night" only highlights that they do not understand why.
I would hope that it's an archaic idea that flies against gender equality would be enough to stop them.
This:
Is not the same thing as this:
You're not barred from seeing the film. You're not even barred from going to this theatre to see the film. There is no law stating that men and woman must be separated when in theatres, much to Mike Pence's eternal demise. There is no discrimination at play here, and anyone suggesting otherwise does not grasp the concept of what constitutes discrimination.
P.S. You should see the film because it's quite good, bordering on great at times.
Sir Alemeth
Member
Imagine a men-only 'Batman' screenings.
People against you are using discrimination in a macro context, since a lot of the outrage underpinning this event is that- if you squint hard enough- it looks exactly like Jim Crow, and by God if the blacks were allowed to get upset about subpar water fountains then I see no reason why men can't be upset at not being allowed in Theater 11 for one night
It's a good thing that's not what the Drafthouse is doing. Men and women can enjoy Wonder Woman together, the existence of a women's room doesn't change this. Separate but equal meant white only and "coloured" only water fountains- not shared water fountains with people of colour also having their own.
edit: This thread- extraordinarily has people showing their asses on racial and gender discrimination.
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Transhuman
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The women's only screening of Wonder Woman is a women's only event, yes or no.
So which of the following would also okay? Seriously wondering since apparently things like this aren't discrimination.
Straight people only, able people only, Americans only, Christians only, White people only?
This really irritates me because it's like people are forgetting history and context on purpose. There were laws on the book that said people who looked like me (I'm Black) couldn't enter years ago. This is not comparable, and if you think it is please describe the systematic and systemic repercussions of this ladies night event. In other words, tell me how men are oppressed by this.
Viewing Wonder Woman at the Alamo Drafthouse is not exclusive to women. Having a room with just women does is not discrimination, no.
Men can have their own screening if someone wants to book their rooms.
None of those are okay, but having a women-only room is okay. How aren't you intellectually incapable of understanding the difference between traditionally excluded groups and those that aren't?
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Transhuman
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The women's only screening of Wonder Woman is a women's only event, yes or no.
The Alamo was sarcastically tossing around this idea, with the feature being Boss Baby.
You're being willfully obtuse in regards to this scenario: Yes or no?
Multiple people have explained to you how this does not constitute discrimination.
Again, you're allowed to have women's events, but the Drafthouse is not being exclusionary in their distribution of goods and services.
This would have been glorious.
No. Men have in fact bought tickets. Knock it off with your little "Gotcha!"
No it isn't. Next?
Yeah none of those are okay because its discrimination... It's weird how being against discrimination now gets you insulted...
So who decides what is and isn't a traditionally excluded groups? And when does it change if ever?
It's been illustrated in this thread why he and you are full of shit though.
How about the sex and gender that couldn't fucking vote until the 20th century? Or the race held in bondage? Or the people that couldn't marry until a few years ago? What a fucking moronic thing to say- you don't give a shit about discrimination.
Interframe
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I've had experiences going to gay bars and there being a group of extremely obnoxious and borderline homophobic/transphobic and abusive straight women in gay bars. It's not uncommon. But that doesn't mean you should point at all straight women and say they're all like that, they're not obviously.
However at the same time let's not pretend they're all innocent either. As a bisexual man, I've come across and have experienced a really ugly, homophobic side to straight women most people wouldn't believe.
Women should be allowed safe spaces or places because they're marginalized, just like minority groups. Only difference is your not in a minority just being a woman alone.
EdibleKnife
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It's not and it isn't as has been explained ad nauseum
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