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[shingi70]

With how popular Pokémon is...it makes me wonder why their aren't more games in that RPG sub genre. Only games I can think of right now are Pokémon, Yokai Watch, DQ Monsters, world of final fantasy, and the digs in suite of games. There hasn't been a major push for that style of game from either Microsoft or Sony to my knowledge.


I remember loving to play the original Robopon on the game boy color, and still we don't see much if that sort of game these days.

 

[NeonZ]

Shin Megami Tensei? Persona?

There's also the just released Dragonball Fusions (they are DB/Z/GT/Super fighters rather than monsters, but it's basically the same idea).

 

[Steel]

How the hell did you miss digimon in your list?

 

[Hasemo]

Aside from the ones you mentioned, at least in Japan, the last 3? months had:
- Persona 5 (collect/fuse Personas, obviously not the main target of the game, but it's still there)
- Monster Hunter Stories
- World of Final Fantasy
- Pokemon Sun/Moon

 

[Renekton]

Ni No Kuni 1

 

[Takao]

If you ignore Digimon, Fighting Foodons, Medarot, Telefang, Monster Rancher, SMT: Devil Children, Invizimals, Monster Kingdom, every other popular Japanese mobile game, etc. there really has been few of them.

Pokemon is a handheld IP, so a company that doesn't have a handheld has no real reason to be in there. Sure, mobile exists, but what's successful and what's not is a total shot in the dark.

 

[thekonamicode]

OP is banished to Tartarus for failing to mention SMT.

 

[Dragon_Rocks]

Folklore

 

[Syril]

There were tons of them made during Pokemon's original heyday, but a lot of them only came out in Japan.

 

[zulux21]

With how popular Pokémon is...it makes me wonder why their aren't more games in that RPG sub genre. Only games I can think of right now are Pokémon, Yokai Watch, DQ Monsters, world of final fantasy, and the digs in suite of games. There hasn't been a major push for that style of game from either Microsoft or Sony to my knowledge.


I remember loving to play the original Robopon on the game boy color, and still we don't see much if that sort of game these days.

because there are already a shit ton of them, they just are not pokemon clones but instead gotcha games on mobile see puzzle and dragons and the countless other games like them.

puzzle and dragons makes a crap ton of money. (in 2013 it was making 4.5mil per day on average) and makes way more money than any other game on that list aside from pokemon (pokemon gives it competition I think not sure how pokemon stacks up to a game that brings in around 1 billion dollars per year)

I mean it's basically legal slot machines that kids pay real money on a shot to collect the good monsters :/

they take a fraction of the effort of a game like pokemon and in general make more money... so thus that is what people focus on.

as others have said though there are plenty of other pokemon like games out there though.

 

[shingi70]

How the hell did you miss digimon in your list?

Honestly slipped my mind.

OP is banished to Tartarus for failing to mention SMT.

I always forget about SmT compared to the other Altus games.

 

[Teriyaki Blues]

There are also games like Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure and Moco Moco Friends that are aimed more at the female crowd.

Some more traditional JRPGs also have strong monster collecting elements embedded into the game. Several Dragon Quest installments involve this is one way or another.

You didn't mention Ni no Kuni, either. I hate the AI (really needs a FFXII action priority list), but other than that it was a very good game.

 

[Corpekata]

A lot of games have trouble making balancing and combat interesting and fun with a static 6 or 7 party members, doing it for like 100 monsters (or demons) is no small undertaking.

 

[shinkai]

Was playing Monster Rancher Advance the other day..... Would love to see another game in the series, it's been too long

 

[nubbe]

I'm hoping Mostert Hunter gets released
It looks really charming and pretty fun

 

[spiritfox]

I guess you don't play mobile games, cause every other game is one.

 

[Teriyaki Blues]

Was playing Monster Rancher Advance the other day..... Would love to see another game in the series, it's been too long

Yeah, was just trying to think of a way for this series to really work again. QR codes?

 

[Vanadium]

Beaten, but just to hammer the nail, Persona and Ni No Kuni.

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

I kind of feel like monster collecting has had a pretty healthy presence in game design since Pokemon...

I mean, it's actually not a genre I'm super into so I can't cite a long list off the top of my head, but it never feels like it's too long of a gap between games being called "Pokemon-esque" or "Pokemon-inspired."

 

[old manatee]

Minecraft with monster collecting and battling instead of Minecraft's horrid combat. Seems like a no-brainer.

 

[Bishop89]

cyber sleuth

 

[Shengar]

Try SMT Games.

 

[KojiKnight]

Because every company tried it during the gameboy color days and failed to come close to Pokemon and thus gave up.

 

[dezzy8]

Because Pokémon got it on lock and key.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Kingdom Hearts tried that, on a handheld no less, and it became one of the worst selling entries in the series.

 

[Fou-Lu]

Yeah, was just trying to think of a way for this series to really work again. QR codes?

I would LOVE another Monster Rancher. Even a mobile one with QR codes.

To contribute to the thread, the Jade Cocoon games are really damn good.

 

[Teriyaki Blues]

I would LOVE another Monster Rancher. Even a mobile one with QR codes.

To contribute to the thread, the Jade Cocoon games are really damn good.

Hah, I was thinking the 3DS, since a few of the games I've been playing lately use the external cameras to read QR codes. I guess the Switch makes that a moot point though? It might have that capability if Pokémon Stars keeps it in?

 

[R0ckman]

SMT isnt really about the Monsters though, its a fusion fodder game where you just collect and fuse for the best monsters, same DQ monster games. Yokai Watch is also kind of like that with its rank system.

I think Pokemon is one of a kind.

 

[Slamtastic]

 

[Fou-Lu]

Oh god. I had one of these.

I've gone down the rabbit hole of toys I wanted as a kid but never had. Rumble robots anyone?

 

[RAWRferal]

*there

 

[nailbombxx]

You know that feeling of a sudden rush of memory and nostalgia when you see something from your childhood that you literally haven't thought about, seen or heard of since. Thanks for that feel. I really wanted one of these but never got one lol.

 

[Barrylocke]

SMT isnt really about the Monsters though, its a fusion fodder game where you just collect and fuse for the best monsters, same DQ monster games. Yokai Watch is also kind of like that with its rank system.

I think Pokemon is one of a kind.

I'm confused about what you mean with it being one of a kind in this sense. Are you referring to how all monsters are technically viable and they don't really get phased out the way early game demons in SMT do?

 

[i-Jest]

Does Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE count?

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

The real money is in collecting waifu and husbands

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...as-a-hit-that-s-as-big-as-pokemon-go-in-japan

Fate/Grand Order has been at or near the top of Japan's app revenue rankings all year and has been downloaded more than 7 million times since its July 2015 debut. It has made more money than Pokemon Go among Android users 104 out of 133 days this year, and 51 days on iOS devices, in the same period, according to researcher App Annie.

 

[SolicitorPirate]

There were tons of them made during Pokemon's original heyday, but a lot of them only came out in Japan.

Man, I miss shit like Azure Dreams and Dragon Seed

 

[Unicorn]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1272289

Siralim 2 - more like DQM


Also, I loved Skannerz. I still have mine.

 

[Militaratus]

Enchant Arm is a monster collecting game and even has a mysterious flamboyant figure set out to rescue the person he loves who has been brainwashed by boobs.

 

[Gaiaknight]

Because developers realize that nintendo has a huge monopoly on that market and to try break in is alot of work and most likely not worth the investment. Take Yo-kai Watch for example massive success in japan not so much outside of japan mostly cause people are happy with playing just pokemon.

 

[Benzychenz]

Does Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE count?

Uh, no. That game has a pre determined party, there's no monster collecting.

 

[R0ckman]

I'm confused about what you mean with it being one of a kind in this sense. Are you referring to how all monsters are technically viable and they don't really get phased out the way early game demons in SMT do?

Yeah

 

[ThatStupidLion]

jade cocoon and folklore!

but i agree the genre feels empty even if it isn't empty

 

[Omega Kirby]

Yu gi oh?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Because they're probably pretty hard to balance by design. If you make them challenging the player has to focus on just a few to keep their stats up to par, which discourages experimentation. Or otherwise you make them really easy and boring.

I guess you could implement some enemy scaling system, but that is a whole another can of worms

 

[Ruruja]

Jade Cocoon 2 was my jam.

 

[Nirolak]

The newer ones are all on mobile.

 

[badcrumble]

Many of them are very poorly done with regard to balance and systems (see: Final Fantasy XIII-2, Ni no Kuni, both of which had their charms but completely flubbed the monster-collecting/monster-raising side of things). There aren't tons of them because, as with Zelda games, it's actually a fairly hard formula to get right.

 

[Phoenix944]

The newer ones are all on mobile.

Yea but it's almost impossible to collect all monsters/characters without paying a lot, well it is in most of the games I've tried.

 

[MegaManTrigger]

Because every company tried it during the gameboy color days and failed to come close to Pokemon and thus gave up.

Dragon Quest Monsters is still going on pretty strong.

 

[shinkai]

Yeah, was just trying to think of a way for this series to really work again. QR codes?

I think the word input they used in MRA was pretty good since you were limited to how many characters you could input until you advanced in ranking. QR Codes could also work as well perhaps by giving players access to special events and/or monsters