GloriousBagel
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Just give me a new Kirby Air Ride
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Why does Nintendo make so many Kirby games?
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Kirby sells more than Metroid, Star Fox and F-Zero combined. in some instances, it sells even more than Zelda (Zelda is not that big in japan though)
sad but you can't blame Nintendo for making more games in a popular series. the only series more popular that they make are Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, SSB and DK. basically, Kirby is one of the big guns.
sad but you can't blame Nintendo for making more games in a popular series. the only series more popular that they make are Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, SSB and DK. basically, Kirby is one of the big guns.
I suspected this, but this also genuinely makes me curious as to how much a Metroid game costs in comparison
foxuzamaki
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Which is interesting cause the turnaround on the wii(as in"wow this console is actually really cool and had some pretty cool games", aswell as having way more 3rd party games then people have realized) is alot faster than the turnaround on the gamecube.
Hm, seems a lot more crowded back in the 90s.
...What was your argument again?
Oh no. They're releasing pretty decent games in a well-liked series every 1-2 years
Somebody stop them. This cannot go on. It is an unprecedented atrocity in the history of the great medium of video games.
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Nah, I can kinda sorta see why OP might raise the question, as the series does have its share of remakes/re-releases and most of the games do look very similar to each other at face value.
OP, the reason is because most Kirby games are pretty economical to make and perform consistently, and the talent behind them is still consolidated at HAL.
Hyperactivity
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Besides all of the posts saying the low risk high reward, and the experimentation value, Kirby serves to a dedicated fanbase that will buy his games that isn't that well served by other franchises for the particular itch they want to scratch. When I want to play a peaceful, happy game that I enjoy playing and want to relax to, I play Kirby
Benzychenz
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And Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart if you count that as a separate series.
I wouldn't really call it a big gun, more of an upper-midtier franchise
TreasureHunterG
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Star Fox was a bigger seller than Kirby in the N64 days. Star Fox 64 sold 3.325 million, more than twice what Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards sold, 1.611 million. Even Wave Race 64 outsold it with 2.105 million and 1080º Snowboarding came very close with 1.254 million.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_64_video_games
Star Fox also was big in SNES days. It sold 4 million units and was one of the best selling titles in the system. F-Zero sold 2.85 million. Kirby's Avalanche sold in 1.7 million in Japan, no data about other regions. Same as Kirby Super Star with 1.1 million in Japan, too.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System_video_games
Star Fox Adventures, considered by many as a deception, sold 1.08 million. Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Metroid Fusion sold 2 million, 1.31 million and 1.286 million respectively. Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland sold 2.1 million. Kirby & the Amazing Mirror, 1.324 million, Kirby's Return to Dream Land, 1.31 million and Kirby's Air Ride, 1.17 million.
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Game_Boy_Advance_games and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_GameCube_video_games and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games
Unlike what you're saying, the difference between Kirby and those franchises were little at their apex and, at sometimes, they even managed to outperform it.
So at some point (AKA NOT right now) those series outsold Kirby? Okay. Current Kirby games spank the latest games in those series, so unsurprisingly currently Kirby gets new games (one every couple of years, that is). And hey, those series got more games back when they sold better, who would have thought?
Come on, you know this.
Come on, you know this.
Hm, seems a lot more crowded back in the 90s.
...What was your argument again?
Yeah, mid-90s Kirby was insane. Then we went seven years without a non-remake sidescrolling platformer, and that's if you consider Amazing Mirror a platformer more than a Metroidvania.
Kirby's a solid series that gets solid sales, and every few games really change things up. It's one of Nintendo's staples, and they give it the love it deserves.
Conrad Link
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Because Iwata.
Why do you think it got a special anniversary game like its the same tier as Mario (arguably got a much better 'effort wise' one than even Mario did)? Cause the Iwata and Sakurai old boys club keeping Kirby important.
Good-2-b-da-pres.
Its why Balloon Fight keeps getting re-released first on everything.
Why do you think it got a special anniversary game like its the same tier as Mario (arguably got a much better 'effort wise' one than even Mario did)? Cause the Iwata and Sakurai old boys club keeping Kirby important.
Good-2-b-da-pres.
Its why Balloon Fight keeps getting re-released first on everything.
Nintendo certainly could make a new F-Zero with a new team, F-Zero GX wasn't made by Nintendo and had a different team.
I imagine the reason that we don't see new F-Zero games anymore is because they just don't sell very well.
Some good points, but I have two issues
1. Kirby 64 was a horrible game, and I think that affected sales. Especially compared with the other games (Star Fox, Wave Race) that were arguably the best entries in their respective series.
2. Without Non JP data for the SNES games....it's hard to say.
Outsells and is properly cheaper. I wouldn't be surprised if of the other series it was closest to Metroid Prime in terms of sales, but I don't doubt the average Kirby game is much cheaper to develop so even if I'm right Kirby ends up a better investment.
SnakeSlashRO
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Kirby > Mario
TreasureHunterG
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It's mostly because Miyamoto got disappointed with the outsourcing and it's results. He made this interview in 2007:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037961,00.html?cid=recirc-peopleRecirc
Shigeru Miyamoto said:
It's no surprise we never saw a new game from any of them further on. As he is General Manager of R&D and Managing Director on the Board of Executives, he manages to greenlight Nintendo's in-house games at his will. So while Miyamoto is still there, we'll not see a new Star Fox/F-Zero for a very long time.
Sylverstone14
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My opinion is that Metroid: Other M just soured parts of the fanbase so much that the series is pretty volatile now, so it's dead to them until Retro Studios or some other developer that isn't Team Ninja (or Yoshio Sakamoto) takes the reins.
Crazy, but I've seen this happen in my circle of friends.
Jaded Alyx
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Yep...Remember the N64?
He was talking about the GBA F-Zero games. He wasn't disappointed by GX.
It's probably because they require a low budget, they make decent sales on the games and it's a franchise that can appeal to both children and Nintendo fans since its relatively popular. It's also a franchise that bodes well with experimentation for new ideas, so it has intrinsic value for the productivity for the rest of the company as well. Yoshi Yarn is one example.
Yep, Suzak were terrible developers.
YOU ARE ALREADY SUCKED.
It would be the best game ever.
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qizah
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The OP is basically "Nintendo stop making games for other people. Make games I want, fuck other people".
BassForever
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Yes would pay $60 for this
Coffee Dog
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Lol so many
Return to dreamland in 2012, triple deluxe in 2014, after no games since kirby 64
TWO GAMES AND WE'RE DROWNING IN THEM
WHERE ARE THE NEW IPS TO IGNORE NINTENDO
Edit: wow i actually forgot squeak squad and mass attack existed at all
Return to dreamland in 2012, triple deluxe in 2014, after no games since kirby 64
TWO GAMES AND WE'RE DROWNING IN THEM
WHERE ARE THE NEW IPS TO IGNORE NINTENDO
Edit: wow i actually forgot squeak squad and mass attack existed at all
Tertullian
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I would be down for any kind of gritty reboot of Kirby.
Middling sales? Then I don't know how to describe Metroid's (huge decline since original Prime) and F-Zero's sales.
The latest Kirby sold 550k in Japan alone and still charting.
The games that he does want would also cost like 5-10x as much as these various Kirby games. Unless people think that Metroid Prime 3 and Kirby's Epic Yarn were comparable cost ventures.
Colourful platformers are something that Nintendo fans like and Kirby games never demand a huge budget like a new Metroid or Starfox would. Plus his simplistic design allows Kirby to be the template for creative game ideas, like Mass Attack, Canvas Curse or the whole power copying concept itself.
Brainfreeze
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Money.
Case closed. Bring in the dancing lobsters.
Case closed. Bring in the dancing lobsters.
Which is slightly bullshit because Donkey Kong is far more iconic and recognizable than Kirby.
Yes! That game is amazing and supremely under-appreciated!
Honestly, they don't make enough!
Kirby should actually be taken to other genres, just think of the possibilities.
Get Camelot on Kirby Golf or Kirby Tennis, how about Game Freak or Creatures makes a Kirby RPG? Just like HAL has worked on Pokemon numerous times (AND NEEDS TO DO MORE POKEMON GAMES!), work with Sega to maybe have a Kirby's Avalanche sequel by reskinning a Puyo game...
... use Puyo X Tetris as the base, Kirby's Tetris Avalanche?
Kirby Pinball by Jupiter, hell rumor has it that Fuse Games (now Barnstorm) were underway with one on DS. The team did Mario Pinball Land and Metroid Prime Pinball.
KIRBY KART!!!
That and Air Ride 2, just SO MUCH POTENTIAL for Kirby, also I do feel that Triple Deluxe is RTDL 2.0, which is cool for 3DS, but I hope they don't keep the same theme like that for all eternity. How about going back to Kirby 64 at some point.
This is part of why Mass Attack was so amazing. It included a new version of Kirby's Pinball and a very basic Kirby RPG, and several other minigames!
FWIW, the last handheld Kirby that wasn't a port was Mass Attack in 2011.
There was a quote from Iwata (can't find it right now) where he said that they prefer to reveal games close to the release date because if they are unveiled too early people may lose interest and forget about them so don't read too much into that.
You talk as if Kirby games are all the same. Canvas Curse, Mass Attack and Return to Dreamland are all completely different games in terms of gameplay. Sharing the same game world =/= being the same game,
Ahh, this game is really amazingly fun. The soundtrack for it is terrific, too. I still need to beat it!
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