Do we have a countdown to Nintendo's press conference at E3 yet?
Dont think days of conferences are known yet though I imagine June 5th is Nintendo with Microsoft and Sony sharing the 4th
Do we have a countdown to Nintendo's press conference at E3 yet?
I'll say it aloud: I'd rather Sony not get it together and Nintendo end-up having Japan essentially to themselves.
After all the shit they and their fans have flung over the past decade-and-a-half.. yes.
I asked Nintendo of America some weeks ago if they had chosen date and venue for their press conference, but I was just told that this "wasn't announced yet". I don't know if it has changed, but I haven't seen any news regarding this via their press portal anyway. Last year they held their media briefing on the 7th of June, at Nokia Theatre in Los Angeles. E3 Expo started on the 7th of June.Do we have a countdown to Nintendo's press conference at E3 yet?
Rösti;35261143 said:I asked Nintendo of America some weeks ago if they had chosen date and venue for their press conference, but I was just told that this "wasn't announced yet". I don't know if it has changed, but I haven't seen any news regarding this via their press portal anyway.
http://press.nintendo.com/loginSplash.jsp
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I strongly disagree with the long-term prospect: markets that turn into stable monopolies are doomed in the long term. And when the market sinks, the 'dominant species' goes down with the ship, naturally.With Sony gone, Nintendo's chances of long-term survival increase. That's as simply as I can state it.
Petty fanwars cannot be a good reason for anybody to wish Sony's exit from the console market. For a healthy market you need variety. Nintendo might be the strongest consoles company with the best track record in the industry but they alone cannot make sure the market stays healthy - nobody is immune to mistakes. For everybody's sake, I hope Sony pulls it together.
Rösti;35261143 said:I asked Nintendo of America some weeks ago if they had chosen date and venue for their press conference, but I was just told that this "wasn't announced yet". I don't know if it has changed, but I haven't seen any news regarding this via their press portal anyway. Last year they held their media briefing on the 7th of June, at Nokia Theatre in Los Angeles. E3 Expo started on the 7th of June.
http://press.nintendo.com/loginSplash.jsp
Username: guest
Password: nintendo
If anyone wanna browse.
Are you implying that Nintendo + 3rd party games are not enough to fill the library left by a hypothetical defunct Sony?
Not even close to the same thing, though.
With Nintendo's services, they have to go through a process and approval.
With the App Store you can just make anything and throw it up instantly.
The industry was quite healthy during PS/N64 era, why suddendly quiting Sony off the market makes the industry unhealthy?
There's no evidence that only 2 competitors in the market makes bad for the industry, in fact it was the case in some generations, which 2 predominant competitors.
No, I'm saying that competition is healthy. The impact for the consumer is not so much in that some games will never be made (that's there, but it's minor), but the major impact will be in the long term. In a healthy market when Player A fumbles everybody else learn from that mistake and Player B takes the lead for the next cycle. Now imagine if Player A was all there was on the market: Player A fumbles - the market crumbles. On the next cycle Player A will have to face a much tougher market - that can form a negative feedback loop with devastating effects on the market - it can reach a state where it needs a restart. Don't forget we're talking entertainment here - people can spend their entertainment dollar on so many things (which is why we have covert-but-massive competition between Apple and Nintendo in the first place).Are you implying that Nintendo + 3rd party games are not enough to fill the library left by a hypothetical defunct Sony?
The industry was quite healthy during PS/N64 era, why suddendly quiting Sony off the market makes the industry unhealthy?
There's no evidence that only 2 competitors in the market makes bad for the industry, in fact it was the case in some generations, with only 2 predominant competitors.
Probably not, but we've seen how companies can make bad decisions when they essentially have no competition (PS3 and 3DS launches are more recent examples). I'd much rather have a healthy Nintendo, MS, and Sony keeping each other in check than one company being able to totally strong arm the market.
The industry was quite healthy during PS/N64 era, why suddendly quiting Sony off the market makes the industry unhealthy?
There's no evidence that only 2 competitors in the market makes bad for the industry, in fact it was the case in some generations, with only 2 predominant competitors.
Microsoft doesn't have a real presence in Japan, so Sony going away would essentially make the market a Nintendo monopoly.
Smh at anyone who desires for Sony to leave the industry as a major player. Ridiculous. The PS3 was my fav system last generation. Each company pushes one another.
Despite being an nintendo fanboy at heart I have no desperate desire to see Sony leave the game industry though I'd do see it as an inevitability sooner rather than later at least in the form they are in it now
Sony isnt going anywhere. Kaz was chosen as the new leader of Sony of all people.
Ps3 did relatively terrible compared to ps2, vita launch in japan (what would have surely been thought of as its biggest market) has been apocalyptic and isn't looking like it'll be any better in the rest of the world, if ps4 doesn't pull in the numbers from day 1 (and as its looking like it'll be last to launch which won't help matters for them at all) fuck whatever kaz wants there is no way the shareholders will stand for it, I firmly believe Sony will be third party by mid 2014 just in time for gt6 being multiplatform Wiiu/xbox720
Ps3 did relatively terrible compared to ps2, vita launch in japan (what would have surely been thought of as its biggest market) has been apocalyptic and isn't looking like it'll be any better in the rest of the world, if ps4 doesn't pull in the numbers from day 1 (and as its looking like it'll be last to launch which won't help matters for them at all) fuck whatever kaz wants there is no way the shareholders will stand for it, I firmly believe Sony will be third party by mid 2014 just in time for gt6 being multiplatform Wiiu/xbox720
LOL!
just... LOL!
Where is the lol junior, I've put forward a plausible hypothesis obviously its just my opinion but can you honestly say anything I've said doesn't make sense?
Where is the lol junior, I've put forward a plausible hypothesis obviously its just my opinion but can you honestly say anything I've said doesn't make sense?
Sony had one of the worst launches ever, launched a year later than the 360, and is still only a few million behind the 360.
Ps3 did relatively terrible compared to ps2, vita launch in japan (what would have surely been thought of as its biggest market) has been apocalyptic and isn't looking like it'll be any better in the rest of the world, if ps4 doesn't pull in the numbers from day 1 (and as its looking like it'll be last to launch which won't help matters for them at all) fuck whatever kaz wants there is no way the shareholders will stand for it, I firmly believe Sony will be third party by mid 2014 just in time for gt6 being multiplatform Wiiu/xbox720
Wow.. way more optimistic than I am. I think Sony'll be around for longer than that.
And yes, ClovingSteam.. shake your head all you want. I've decided to be honest instead of playing the "I'm-so-neutral" wording games that so many company partisans like to play around here.
Lol.Saving for crow.
Where is the lol junior, I've put forward a plausible hypothesis obviously its just my opinion but can you honestly say anything I've said doesn't make sense?
Except obviously gt6 being ready in 2014
Company partisans? Thought we were gamers who enjoyed games. Guess I was wrong.
Feel free save it, I'll happily eat a nest full of crow if I'm wrong but its my opinion and its welts thought out
ADA is a direct successor to Panasonic PD (Phase-change Dual), an earlier phase change format for longterm archiving. Nintendo certainly won't use phase change discs. There's no reason to.Rösti;35258533 said:As for the Wii U there's not much to say at the moment. I'm expecting a firm reply from Jerald Nagae next week regarding the Wii U trademark issues. He will be back in office on Monday. I'm also contemplating digging some in Panasonic's potential involvement in the making of the Wii U discs. I theorized previously in this thread that the discs for Wii could be based on the ADA discs from Panasonic, as the format (120mm) correlates to what Nintendo mentioned at E3 2011, and max data transfer speed (144 Mbps) is appropriate for next generation: http://panasonic.net/avc/media/ada/lineup.html
Panasonic has been Nintendo's closest partner regarding media discs for Gamecube and Wii, for those that didn't know.
Where is the lol junior, I've put forward a plausible hypothesis obviously its just my opinion but can you honestly say anything I've said doesn't make sense?
Except obviously gt6 being ready in 2014
I'm not buying into the idea that the two are mutually exclusive. I can both favor Nintendo and enjoy games. Incredible concept, I know.
can you name another sony division with the potential to be as profitable as gaming, which carried them through 2 gens prior?
agreed with cloving that wishing sony (or anyone) to leave the industry is pretty dumb, but im really not following the logic here either. even hemorrhaging billions at launch year (and after the PSN had last year), there's so much fat with no room for potential growth at sony, this division might need some reeling in but it's nowhere near the chopping block, id wager.
Yes you can favor one. Doesnt mean you have to wish for the other to get out of the industry. But nice straw man. I'm a Lakers fan. Doesnt mean that I want the NBA to contract the Heat.
wsippel, lherre, bg, anyone please leak something or something so we can talk about something else, lol.
I really don't think its well thought out at all but if you say so.
And are still about 50 million behind in unit sales where they were in this point last generation and don't even get started when it comes to money
You don'tif you don't think 2 possibly 3 bad launches would be enough to get a conglomerate to abandon a division is a well thought out hypothesis then I really don't know
wsippel, lherre, bg, anyone please leak something or something so we can talk about something else, lol.
PS2 was a sales marvel that more than likely will never happen again on the home console front so I wouldn't compare it to that. After all the PS3 has still outsold pretty much all other consoles in history. I agree about the money, but it's not enough to take them out in just two years from now. We already should know they won't repeat the spending problems they made with the PS3 and that's the only way I see your scenario being able to happen.
Are you forgetting the ps1, I'm pretty sure that sold over 100 million as well, so you can hardly call the ps2 a sales marvel, yeah it sold better than its predecessor but in the same sort of timescale not vastly more, oh and then there is the ds that has sold similar amounts
Are you forgetting the ps1, I'm pretty sure that sold over 100 million as well, so you can hardly call the ps2 a sales marvel, yeah it sold better than its predecessor but in the same sort of timescale not vastly more, oh and then there is the ds that has sold similar amounts
Assuming they actually learned something from last time (and looking at the way they designed the Vita, they did), Sony will be fine. Even if the Vita fails I don't see them leaving the console space anytime soon.
Hemorrhaging billions launch year? Are you aware they lost so much on ps3 they lost all the money the gaming division ever made?
I want Sony to become irrelevant.
Anymore pathetic than Sony/MS fans wanting Nintendo to go third party because they're "ruining" gaming?