Devs totally aren't aware of how video streaming is going to work? Just that it will be there in the retail units of the console? I mean current dev-kits are wired.
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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Smiles and Cries
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I miss Nintendo Underground with all the leaks
Shikamaru Ninja
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I still pray for a trophy system. Something more original that doesn't necessarily tally up some arbitrary billion point score that takes over all our inner OCD.
But something that allows for fellow friends to see your smash bros trophies, or "f-zero and star fox gold and silver medals" through a system wide application.
-Pyromaniac-
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same, it really makes or breaks everything.
Sony's is slick in few ways, but average in a lot of ways, but it's never bad. Hopefully Nintendo never goes bad.
Microsofts I find a bit obnoxious but it's very usable. I hope for something slick but also simple.
as do I, bothers me that it's not confirmed yet. Nintendo games were made for a trophy system.
If it's like Steam's system where there is a finite number for each game, that'd be a pretty good way to go about the issue. I always liked that a bit better than a simple numerical score.
And I really, really hope that they limit the ads. Damn does that suck..
Father_Brain
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GI's cover reveal tomorrow is a Wii U title.
...no, there's no source. I just willed it to be so.
...no, there's no source. I just willed it to be so.
Smiles and Cries
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during the Android OS laugh-a-ton this Integrity (operating system) was brought up so what is the 3DS OS?
Smiles and Cries
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u had me going at U
ViewtifulJC
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TheCongressman1
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Nothing more exciting than horrible jpg compression.
I never said MS or Sony already know the specs ?
You have to read my first post like this:
- Someone is asking if MS or Sony could create a fake studio to receive dev kits and dissect them
- I'm answering they can't for different reasons (seal, legal stuff, etc.)
- I'm adding than even if they're doing it, Nintendo is applying an inner circle policy, where the closer you are with them as a company, the more you are aware of
- To illustrate this inner circle thing, i'm teasing about a BIG part of the system that remains veryyyyyyy vague for big third-parties, until now
Then, i expected people to guess what is this aspect i'm talking about.
And some found it, it's the software layer/OS of the system. How a fake studio with MS or Sony behind could know about this important part of the Wii U, whereas big third-parties are far from knowing everything of it, are just left with vague infos about it ? >>> illustration of the inner circle policy (+ the fact that Nintendo is still building it). Expect the main surprises and some kept hidden features to come from the built-in software of the console, as it remains a mystery even for big third-parties to this date.
I can't be more clear than that, but i think my first message was already explicit and a lot understood it well
shadyspace
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lol I just want something dynamic and interesting like the PS3 interface. I am "white background and tiles"-out after the Wii and 3DS.
Smiles and Cries
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its just part of the normal cycle of these threads but sometimes we just get nice tips
we just found out how the WiiU compares on the top 5 best launch for consoles
1. Wii U
2. WiiU
3. WIIIIU
4. WiiUu
5. Nintendo Wii U because it spits HOT FYRE!
bgassassin
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As expect.
TheCongressman1
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Expect the main surprises and some kept hidden features to come from the built-in software of the console, as it remains a mystery even for big third-parties to this date.
I can't be much clearer, but i think my first message was already explicit
So, you are saying that it's safe to say that we already know all the physical features of the system and that any other surprises will come in the form of OS/Online functionality?
GameplayWhore
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For what it's worth, my first response was meant in a jocular fashion. Any time I mention haptics and am not actually explaining what it is to somebody who asked, that is the case. Relax, not everybody here is all serious-sauce all the time.
Wait, isn't "guessing" another word for "speculation"?
UncleSporky
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Of course not, I mean that since third parties have the SDK documentation that MS and Sony certainly also have access to it.
I understand what you were saying better, though, just giving an example of the sort of things third parties don't know.
People reading into everything!
I don't think anyone really knows what the 3DS OS is, it's probably something developed internally by Nintendo.
As far as Integrity is concerned, it's speculated as an OS (or the base of an OS) for the Wii U as Green Hills Software is providing the IDE and compiler for the Wii U, not to mention that it wouldn't be even slightly surprising for Nintendo to go with an OS that's certified to military-grade levels of security (which Integrity is).
shadyspace
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I want to know if the console is still a design atrocity.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I never said MS or Sony already know the specs ?
You have to read my first post like this:
- Someone is asking if MS or Sony could create a fake studio to receive dev kits and dissect them
- I'm answering they can't for different reasons (seal, legal stuff, etc.)
- I'm adding than even if they're doing it, Nintendo is applying an inner circle policy, where the closer you are with them as a company, the more you are aware of
- To illustrate this inner circle thing, i'm teasing about a BIG part of the system that remains veryyyyyyy vague for big third-parties, until now
Then, i expected people to guess what is this aspect i'm talking about.
And some found it, it's the software layer/OS of the system. How a fake studio with MS or Sony behind could know about this important part of the Wii U, whereas big third-parties are far from knowing everything of it, are just left with vague infos about it ? >>> illustration of the inner circle policy (+ the fact that Nintendo is still building it). Expect the main surprises and some kept hidden features to come from the built-in software of the console, as it remains a mystery even for big third-parties to this date.
I can't be more clear than that, but i think my first message was already explicit and a lot understood it well
You can be clearer just tell us everything foo!
Smiles and Cries
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Zoramon089
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Are all companies like this? Is Nintendo still in the process of changing things if key features aren't known to 3rd parties yet?
I'm not talking about you
And it's pretty frustrating to see some of the reactions i got (well, 2/3 annoying messages) in the previous page, whereas in the end, the info given was spontaneous, never heard before, and precise from the start (dev kits seals, some specs appearing during boot sequence, specs available through sdk documentation so dismantling of the boxes isn't necessary, software layer rather vague for third-parties to this date, real dashboard not implemented yet). It's like some people are always unsatisfied whereas it's important and interesting infos. I'm not asking for gratitude or recognition, but a more polite, constructive and less ungrateful tone from some, i worked hard to have this data.Absolutely. There's a microscope on any and every thing that Nintendo does these days. Every move they make, every word they choose, every business they have even the slightest association with.
Honestly, I'm surprised that we don't have people tailing Reggie and Iwata, documenting their travels like paparazzi.
"Iwata just left the offices of Retro Studios here in Austin after being inside for four hours. He's wearing a huge smile on his face."
Christberg
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Am I the only one who thinks trophy systems are total crap? I don't need stupid tchotchkes to keep me playing, just a good game.
TheCongressman1
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It's what happens when we have next to nothing to work with.
Reading into everything? It is a speculation thread after all.
Shikamaru Ninja
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But there are games that possess these characteristics internally. Colored coins in Mario games. Trophies in Smash Bros. Medals in Star Fox. etc. I think it would be interesting if they were viewable outside of the game by others.
Just nothing as bloated as achievements. 1000+ points. DLC achievements. etc. Just exploiting people for money.
It is aesthetically displeasing, there's really no getting around it.
This.
I just want a way to see what I did & what my friends' did or didn't. I don't need a Trophy Level or Total # like the 360 does. Something like Steam would be perfect.
Cheesecakebobby
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Animal Crossing metagame. Achievements unlock items for your house/ town.
UncleSporky
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Yeah.
AceBandage
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I don't see why people are so confused about what IdeaMan has said. It's what I've been saying for ages now as well.
Nintendo's surprises are going to come from software and functionality. Not raw horsepower.
Things like the ability to watch your friend across the world play a game. The ability to seemlessly add online to retro titles. Big focus on creating small and large communities.
This is going to be Nintendo's ace. This will be what people 'Ooh' and 'Aah' about.
Nintendo's surprises are going to come from software and functionality. Not raw horsepower.
Things like the ability to watch your friend across the world play a game. The ability to seemlessly add online to retro titles. Big focus on creating small and large communities.
This is going to be Nintendo's ace. This will be what people 'Ooh' and 'Aah' about.
GameplayWhore
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Oh you think those threads have been FUN?
why else would we be posting in a discussion about video games if we weren't having fun? If you're not enjoying yourself, you should be playing some Pushmo or having sex instead, no?
Or having sex while playing Pushmo. Sounds particularly good, yes!
shadyspace
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Excuse me for wanting something more aesthetically pleasing than an external dvd drive.
GameplayWhore
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I'm not talking about you
YAY!
This thread suffers from a sort of collective bipolar disorder. The mood can change very dramatically from hour to hour, and happy things can often sour a poor disposition further. At a different time, people would have found this very interesting, but at that particular point it merely fed their frustrations.
-Pyromaniac-
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but there are also people like me who have trouble playing games over and over for no reason. I constantly need an objective. I can't simply play. I have to play towards something. First playthrough I always play to beat the game. But on subsequent playthroughs I need something to work toward. That's where trophies come in. They give you nice little goals and added challenges, and you get recognized for it. It's a pleasent addition.
If nintendo doesn't implement one, I'm taking them down, simple as that.
Christberg
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You know, I'd be OK with some social networking integration if it's clean and not too overbearing.
"XXXX has collected all the stars in Super Mario Universe!"
"XXXX has finished the story in Legend of Zelda:Skyward Sword!"
I have to say though, the way they're implemented on other systems? GAH-BAGE. "You killed 25 scuzzy space mutants in sector 7G!"
People actually care about this junk? (Not Strange Brew, that's the best movie ever, eh!)
YAY!
This thread suffers from a sort of collective bipolar disorder. The mood can change very dramatically from hour to hour, and happy things can often sour a poor disposition further. At a different time, people would have found this very interesting, but at that particular point it merely fed their frustrations.
True. I've found it (IdeaMan's input) interesting, but I'm trying to not take these things all too, too seriously. I'll throw my piece into an argument, but won't go into an all-out foodfight. Otherwise, I would've gotten myself into real trouble in some other thread a long time ago. (Heck, I still feel bad about being a snarky ass on here to someone a few days ago. :/ )
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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I see what you did there.
For this point (and i acknowledge that you expressed this expectation before), you are spot-on, because even big third-parties are left in the mist (they are aware of some features but clearly not all) in regard to the software layer of the Wii U to this date (and this precision is important, we are just one month away from E3).
YES! A thousand times: YES!
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