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[Dreamwriter]

What about Fi? I haven't been keeping track of the Zelda threads.

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

 

[guek]

I don't see a better time for a name rebranding. The name 'wii' will make everyone a skeptic, and they are trying to regain a lot of hardcore gamers, it'd be a good start.

I really don't get this line of thought. The Wii will make a small subset of hardcore gamers skeptic. Most people will simply think "Brand new Wii? That's cool, makes sense, the old one is a bit dated." Most people wont think about it hard enough to go "Oh Wii. Well while I enjoyed using the wii several years ago, I noticed that its content stream thinned out considerably in its last year or so on the market. This leads me to believe that the Wii U may suffer a similar fate primarily due to having the same branding and manufacturer of a machine I once enjoyed but eventually became outdated."

 

[royalan]

what relevant members of the media didn't get a chance to see the wii u at E3? I understand there's a marginal benefit to being at CES, but this thing doesn't even have a booth, it's behind closed doors. Nintendo isn't a company that historically attends events without a good reason. It almost seems like a complete waste of their time.

Also, why only have a closed-door showing if you're only going to be demonstrating stuff that you displayed publicly at E3 just 6 months prior?

And not only that, why have a closed-door showing for the media? That's not the point of the media...

I do think something fishy's afoot.

 

[guek]

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

This is a lie. I'm 2/3 of my way through the game and she's done this maybe twice. And hey, I fucking love navi!

 

[phisheep]

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

Alternatively, Fi is the 'Navi' character in Skyward Sword. She's a created being with a robotic turn of phrase that conceals a wickedly dry sense of humour, she deliberately avoids being too helpful and, incidentally, has a marvellous pair of legs.

 

[Alrus]

BP, what did you do now?!

MY OPINION IS FACT AND YOU MUST LIVE WITH IT! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIKE NINTENDO GAMES MORE THAN OTHER COMPANIES UNLESS YOU ARE A FANBOY, AND IF YOU'RE A FANBOY YOUR OPINION SUCKS!

My guess would be that

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

Yay Hyperbole! She does it twice at most, that's not really ALWAYS. Lets not insult Fi and say she's Issun now. (and I'm saying this as someone who didn't like Fi at all).

 

[cajunator]

I do kind of wonder how zelda will work with the tablet. If it goes back to traditional controls i will be quite disappointed.

 

[snesfreak]

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

Not true.

 

[Jocchan]

Fi is a character from Skyward Sword who is ALWAYS giving away how to solve puzzles, removing much of the fun and challenge. She is basically taking Navi from Ocarina of Time, hated fairy companion, and making her far worse. For example, you walk into a room and before you even have a chance to notice that unlike other rooms that room has a skylight shining sun down on the floor, Fi pipes in with "Look, this room has a skylight - you can see one of those things you need to shoot up through it! You can probably hit it with your arrows."

IIRC she outright spoils two puzzles, and in both circumstances only after an error from the player (wrong solution in a puzzle before dungeon 3, leaving a room before solving a puzzle in dungeon 5). By comparison, the tombstones you find lying around spoil much more stuff by just telling you what to do instead of giving hints through riddles.
Now, I agree she's annoying, I agree telling the player how to solve the puzzles after small errors is too much, and I agree her tendency to re-state the obvious is beyond comical, but the hyperbole around Fi is probably even more ridiculous.

 

[Hiltz]

I do kind of wonder how zelda will work with the tablet. If it goes back to traditional controls i will be quite disappointed.

Aonuma did state that its unlikely for Zelda to go back to all buttons because of motion control. Of course, it is anyone's guess as to what Nintendo does on the Wii U for the next game's combat system since trying to replicate Skyward Sword's would seem impractical.

Fi's worst flaw is perhaps pointing out the most obvious information like approaching a locked door only to be told to find a key for it... and this is after the camera does a close up of the door. At times, she also reminds you of what to do and where to go next after already being informed by an npc on the subject mere seconds ago.

 

[fabricated backlash]

IIRC she outright spoils two puzzles, and in both circumstances only after an error from the player (wrong solution in a puzzle before dungeon 3, leaving a room before solving a puzzle in dungeon 5). By comparison, the tombstones you find lying around spoil much more stuff by just telling you what to do instead of giving hints through riddles.
Now, I agree she's annoying, I agree telling the player how to solve the puzzles after small errors is too much, and I agree her tendency to re-state the obvious is beyond comical, but the hyperbole around Fi is probably even more ridiculous.

I think having an option to skip text or increase the text speed, would make Fi a lot better.

Still as annoying as Fi can get, she's nowhere near as bad as Issun for example.

 

[JohnTinker]

Is Fi presenting the new tech demo? Or perhaps Fi is the new tech demo.

 

[Hiltz]

I think having an option to skip text or increase the text speed, would make Fi a lot better.

Still as annoying as Fi can get, she's nowhere near as bad as Issun for example.

This is true. I've never been so annoyed by how chatty that little bastard is.


So is that Wii U city tech demo similar to that of the interactive Zelda HD one where you can just have control over the camera and maybe switching between day to night?

 

[Fourth Storm]

This is true. I've never been so annoyed by how chatty that little bastard is.


So is that Wii U city tech demo similar to that of the interactive Zelda HD one where you can just have control over the camera and maybe switching between day to night?

I believe there was a tech demo shown behind closed doors at last E3 where you could drive a car around a virtual city and use the UPad to look around in 3D space. Sounded cool.

 

[Coolwhip]

So how long until Reggie?

 

[snesfreak]

They should have toned down Fi a bit, but the hyperbole that gets said about her is funny to me.
Frankly the item messages popping back up after you start playing again is more annoying than anything Fi does, but that can be dealt with (Homebrew FTW.)

 

[radioheadrule83]

"Well Geoff we listen to the fans and have all this great content coming to Wii like Xenoblade Chronicles that we're really excited about."

"So what about Wii U Reggie will we see that too, with rumors of new xbox's popping up and Samsung Smart TV's having more processing power than Wii does, does that worry you guys in any way?"

"Well Geoff, Wii U is coming, it's certainly coming but we're not quite ready to talk about it yet untill Mr. Miyamoto thinks it's perfect."

"Just like Zelda right?"

"Yes, just like our games we really need to deliver the experience that people expect from us"

"Explain Fi"

[snip]

Allow me to continue:

"She's great isn't she, you want companions - check that box!"

"Yeah bu.."

"GEOFF!"

*reggie enters Geoff's personal space a little more, his physical presence and stance betraying his attempt to smile. His smile says friendly Nintendo President, his body says "I will take your name, clench it in a tight fist and ram it up your rectum"*


I seriously hope Geoff is as awesome with him as he was in that interview.

 

[Hiltz]

I think the CES interview with Reggie is at 1 PM on the west coast. SpikeTV's airing the new episode today from 10 AM - 2PM.

 

[Übermatik]

About 3 and 1/4 hours till GEOFF here in the UK. That sound about right?

 

[Hiltz]

"Well Geoff we listen to the fans and have all this great content coming to Wii like Xenoblade Chronicles that we're really excited about."

"So what about Wii U Reggie will we see that too, with rumors of new xbox's popping up and Samsung Smart TV's having more processing power than Wii does, does that worry you guys in any way?"

"Well Geoff, Wii U is coming, it's certainly coming but we're not quite ready to talk about it yet untill Mr. Miyamoto thinks it's perfect."

"Just like Zelda right?"

"Yes, just like our games we really need to deliver the experience that people expect from us"

"Explain Fi"

Continuation of Interview:

Reggie: Well Geoff, let me put it this way. When Mr. Miyamoto tells me to suck his dick, do you know what I do?

Geoff: ... You suck his dick?

Reggie: That's right.

Geoff: But that doesn't explain my question about Fi in Skyward Sword.

Reggie: Oh that. Mr. Miyamoto was reminded about the importance of hand holding in video games because he likes it when I hold his right hand while he places his other hand firmly on top of my head while I suck dick.

Geoff: ...

Reggie: Why are you taking your pants off?

 

[guek]

oh god, what's happening to this thread

DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO US, NINTENDO?!

 

[Übermatik]

Shut it down, we're done here.

 

[Bisnic]

oh god, what's happening to this thread

DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO US, NINTENDO?!

Iwata : (laughs)

 

[Grampa Simpson]

BurntPork got banned again?

What's the time split on him being banned? Is it like 40 unbanned, and 60 banned?

 

[Kandinsky]

Allow me to continue:

"She's great isn't she, you want companions - check that box!"

"Yeah bu.."

"GEOFF!"

*reggie enters Geoff's personal space a little more, his physical presence and stance betraying his attempt to smile. His smile says friendly Nintendo President, his body says "I will take your name, clench it in a tight fist and ram it up your rectum"*


I seriously hope Geoff is as awesome with him as he was in that interview.

Continuation of Interview:

Reggie: Well Geoff, let me put it this way. When Mr. Miyamoto tells me to suck his dick, do you know what I do?

Geoff: ... You suck his dick?

Reggie: That's right.

Geoff: But that doesn't explain my question about Fi in Skyward Sword.

Reggie: Oh that. Mr. Miyamoto was reminded about the importance of hand holding in video games because he likes it when I hold his right hand while he places his other hand firmly on top of my head while I suck dick.

Geoff: ...

Reggie: Why are you taking your pants off?

Yeah... remember when gaf asked you to stop your silly fanfic stuff Nintex?.

 

[GameplayWhore]

I think I'm ready to go back to the Wii U at CES thread now.

 

[AzaK]

How long until Reggie's interview?

 

[Ryoku]

How long until Reggie's interview?

Couple minutes. Within the next thirty minutes, 100% guaranteed.

EDIT: Within the next ten minutes.

 

[TunaLover]

Oh god, oh god, oh god, oh god.

 

[blu]

That was some hardcore stuff.

 

[AceBandage]

Guessing nothing interesting came of it (as expected).

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Guessing nothing interesting came of it (as expected).

you're wrong, dushku was there.

 

[FreeMufasa]

I'm expecting this console to be really weak. In terms of RAM, at most, 768mb.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

WTF that would be pushing it in terms of lowness. I don't see how it's humanely possible to offer less than 1. I think at most it'll be 1.5.

 

[Saint Gregory]

I'm expecting this console to be really weak. In terms of RAM, at most, 768mb.

I think if not just for the psychological barrier they have to go 1GB. By the time the Wii U hits the average smartphone will have more than a gig of RAM ffs.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm expecting this console to be really weak. In terms of RAM, at most, 768mb.

Already been confirmed by people that have seen dev kits that it'll have at least 1GB.

 

[Kenka]

Ahem, when is this interview due to happen ?

 

[C_H_T]

Ahem, when is this interview due to happen ?

You mean, the interview from Gametrailers CES 2012?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

lol @ thread title change.

One day, Valve will combine with Nintendo, and the fanatics from both companies will combine to form the absolutest dumbest thread in NeoGaf history.

2012, ya'll. Lets go out with a bang.

 

[GameplayWhore]

Already been confirmed by people that have seen dev kits that it'll have at least 1GB.

Didn't one of the people who revealed this also say that typically dev kits have more RAM than the final systems or something like that?

 

[Log4Girlz]

I'm expecting this console to be really weak. In terms of RAM, at most, 768mb.

You and me both Mr. Lion. If Nintendo delivers more, it would make me ecstatic.

Anyhoo...about Skyward sword, I'm like only 3 hours into it and I already hate Fi. A shame, since she's a gloriously beautiful character model. But its like.. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I wish there was an option that she would only show up when beckoned and that's that.

 

[EloquentM]

Didn't sources from this thread basically confirm that at the very least the RAM would Have to be at 1 Gig?

 

[Dmax3901]

So shouldn't expect anything exciting today CES? Nintendo or otherwise?

 

[EloquentM]

Didn't one of the people who revealed this also say that typically dev kits have more RAM than the final systems or something like that?

Yeah that's where we got the 1 gig from. The dev kits had more than 1 gig

 

[ViewtifulJC]

So shouldn't expect anything exciting from CES from anybody?

That is correct

 

[Maxrunner]

You mean, the interview from Gametrailers CES 2012?

Is the girl on the left an actress or something???justine???

 

[TunaLover]

looks like a porn actress

 

[snesfreak]

Nintendo needs to show a game at E3 that PROVES beyond any doubt this damn thing is more powerful than the damn 360.
Something that CANNOT be done on current systems.
Maybe the doubters would finally be satisfied.

 

[Azure J]

lol @ thread title change.

One day, Valve will combine with Nintendo, and the fanatics from both companies will combine to form the absolutest dumbest thread in NeoGaf history.

2012, ya'll. Lets go out with a bang.

Throw Apple into the mix somehow.

 

[Kenka]

You mean, the interview from Gametrailers CES 2012?

There is literally nothing in this interview.