Shin Johnpv
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A cable is only as good at passing electricity as the worst metal used in it. So unless your cable was gold 100% through, having gold tips doesn't make a difference.
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Arrggg didn't see that post was from January, sorry.
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Wii U - Surround Sound Guide and FAQ
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A cable is only as good at passing electricity as the worst metal used in it. So unless your cable was gold 100% through, having gold tips doesn't make a difference.
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Arrggg didn't see that post was from January, sorry.
I'm owning this home theater system from Onkyo (bought it 2 yrs ago):
http://www.de.onkyo.com/de/produkte/htx-22hdx-35462.html (German site, but just google the model HTX-22HDX) with the additional rear speakers from Onkyo as well (SKS-22X).
It's small, affordable and supports LPCM 5.1 as well as Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD and has one HDMI-out and three HDMI-in ports. If you're not a big audio enthusiast, but just want to enjoy your movies and games in glorious, superior surround sound in cinema quality, get this system!
bodeiseifer
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didn't allot of wii games come with dolby pro logic 2 logos?
NekoFever
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Pro Logic is done in software so the hardware doesn't need to support anything special. There were N64 and PS1 games with Pro Logic surround. A few SNES ones too.
GotchaForce
Member
Got my WiiU yesterday. I noticed the dedicated audio port on the back and I have a surround receiver. Where do I get the audio cable, though?
I don't know what you mean. There is only an HDMI out and an AV out (for a Wii composite or a Wii component cable). For more details see the OP.
Robin64
Member
So I ended up getting this:
LG BH7430P 5.1
Seems like a fantastic sound so far, but nothing I have tested on the Wii U has been surround except for the test during the settings.
Am I to assume that the Wii U frontend, Bit Trip Runner, NintendoLand and Netflix are all devoid of rear speaker noise?
LG BH7430P 5.1
Seems like a fantastic sound so far, but nothing I have tested on the Wii U has been surround except for the test during the settings.
Am I to assume that the Wii U frontend, Bit Trip Runner, NintendoLand and Netflix are all devoid of rear speaker noise?
Out of Working Order
Member
There is no dedicated audio port.
You can't even route sound seperately through the AV out. This needs sorting as soon as possible, because I am using a computer monitor with no speakers built-in.
TheContact
Member
Nintendo makes some incredibly stupid decisions sometimes. Removing features with updates? What purpose did that serve really?
Ricerocket
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Yep a lot of games are like that unfortunately. Sad that Netflix is stuck with Stereo on Wii U.
Robin64
Member
I just tried ZombiU and got proper surround. Really weird that a lot of stuff has silent rears. Just pump music there or something, geez...
Seth Enosh
Member
I know that NintendoLand and NSMBU have 2.0 tracks and they play in 2.0 even when you have your Wii U set to 5.1, so nothing gets sent to the rear speakers or the subwoofer.
Netflix doesn't have surround sound, probably because Wii U surround is only LPCM (uncompressed) and Netflix surround audio is encoded in Dolby 5.1, which Wii U doesn't support.
w1gglyjones
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Your receiver should be doing that for you. That's how stereo music works, too.
Dunno, there are a bunch. Monster Hunter sounds pretty badass in surround.
if I remember correctly, the WiiU Netflix does support 5.1, your receiver must be LPCM 5.1 compatible for it.
w1gglyjones
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I haven't streamed Netflix in a while, but the audio stream has to be LPCM 5.1 for the Wii U to give you surround. If it's Dolby Digital 5.1 or something else from Netflix's end, then it doesn't work. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Robin64
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You're not wrong. Netflix doesn't stream LPCM 5.1 (I imagine because of bandwidth issues?).
Also, this could be a sign of hope:
Pikmin 3 listing 5.1 on its cover. Maybe someone with the game could confirm if that means it's using all the speakers or if Nintendo are just being Nintendo and sending nothing to the rears.
To be fair, games like Nintendoland have 5.1 channel sound, the catch being the two extra channels are coming out of the gamepad, not from the rear ones. It's like a "Nintendo surround" thing I guess, but yeah I hope Pikmin 3 supports proper 5.1 sound
w1gglyjones
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It just depends on the game. Some Nintendo titles only provide stereo sound through the LPCM stream. The Wii U itself is capable of 8 channel audio, but it sends the 6 channels (5.1 surround) through the HDMI as LPCM, and the other 2 channels are sent to the Gamepad.
You might get a better answer in the Pikmin 3 OT.
Valjean Lafitte
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Are there any 7.1 Home Theater systems with HDMI audio out that support LPCM? I mean, there have been a few receivers mentioned in this thread that were confirmed to work with the Wii U, like the Sony STR-DH520, but I'm looking for something with speakers included.
This Onkyo S5550 system looks good, but I don't see anything in he product specs about LPCM.
This Onkyo S5550 system looks good, but I don't see anything in he product specs about LPCM.
Mithos
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Should be enough specs on this page (my guess is that Multichannel PCM is the same as LPCM)
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/system_components/home_theater/ht-s5500/
Valjean Lafitte
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lol I had just been to that page a few minutes ago and I completely missed that. Thanks!
Inspectah_Deck
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Nintendo, fix your f*cking audio output on Wii U.
If your game only supports 2.0, then for the love of god output only 2.0 and not 5.1 with muted channels!
This f*cks up our AVR settings and doesn´t let us use virtual surround like Dolby Pro Logic or DTS Neo.
When i constantly have to go to the system settings and change the output to stereo when i´m playing Wii Mode or 2.0 Wii U games and then change it back again when i play 5.1 Wii U games, you are doing it wrong!
If your game only supports 2.0, then for the love of god output only 2.0 and not 5.1 with muted channels!
This f*cks up our AVR settings and doesn´t let us use virtual surround like Dolby Pro Logic or DTS Neo.
When i constantly have to go to the system settings and change the output to stereo when i´m playing Wii Mode or 2.0 Wii U games and then change it back again when i play 5.1 Wii U games, you are doing it wrong!
So I have some 5.1 surround sound headphones I recently picked up for cheap with Front, center and rear connections. Is there an inexpensive device out there with: HDMI input, HDMI output and also the front, center, rear headphone connections? I've had a look but I can't find anything out there.
I have the sensor bars stacked. Wiimotes actually track better when both units are on.Is there a homebrew solution yet to the Pro Logic issues in vWii mode? Reaching around to switch the sensor bar back and forth between the Wii and the Wii U is getting really old but until this is fixed I can't retire my Wii!
Workaround: Set audio to Surround, convert the HDMI to optical, assign optical input on receiver to GAME, or whatever your Wii U's HDMI cable is also connected to. Manually switch between Optical and HDMI audio, depending on the number of channels; optical will only carry the L&R channels of the Multichannel stream, thus allowing matrixed surround decoding.
I just switch between the HDMI and optical outputs on my DVDO Edge scaler and my receiver automatically switches audio inputs while keeping the same video signal, it's better than changing the Wii U's audio settings, as it can be done whenever a game doesn't sound right.
ElAlcesDiablo
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So, has anyone found a solution for optical headphone users? Basically, an AVR or transcoder box that takes 5.1 LPCM on HDMI in and outputs 5.1 DD on optical.
All I can find is ones similar to those linked in this thread which appear to only output DD if it was input. They'll take LPCM 5.1 and split it into 6 seperate phono outputs but I don't think that helps me.
I wonder if the Xbone will do it. Probably not though.
Only solution I can think of is getting an AVR with Dolby Headphone (or similar) and connect the headphone out into my surround headset, disabling its surround processing.
Any suggestions for AVRs with decent virtual surround headphone out?
All I can find is ones similar to those linked in this thread which appear to only output DD if it was input. They'll take LPCM 5.1 and split it into 6 seperate phono outputs but I don't think that helps me.
I wonder if the Xbone will do it. Probably not though.
Only solution I can think of is getting an AVR with Dolby Headphone (or similar) and connect the headphone out into my surround headset, disabling its surround processing.
Any suggestions for AVRs with decent virtual surround headphone out?
Inspectah_Deck
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Yeah, but please properly incorporate the LFE and center channels next time and hire a capable sound engineer that knows how a home cinema mixing is done.
So i have to buy a HDMI to S/PDIF converter?
No thanks.
cyberheater
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I think Pikmin supports 5.1 surround. Is there a list of other WiiU games that do the same?
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What's the problem with the sound in Pikmin?
EDIT:-
What's the problem with the sound in Pikmin?
Robin64
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It does. It's just not very good.
Out of the games I have, Arkham City, Need for Speed and ZombiU support 5.1
New Super Mario Bros. U, Game & Wario, NintendoLand and Bit.Trip Runner do not.
Netflix and Hulu don't support 5.1 either.
Is there a homebrew solution yet to the Pro Logic issues in vWii mode? Reaching around to switch the sensor bar back and forth between the Wii and the Wii U is getting really old but until this is fixed I can't retire my Wii!
You do know the sensor bar sends no info to the consoles. You don't have to switch it you just need to power both on or buy one that takes batteries.
cyberheater
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Thanks for the update. It's a pity that the surround for Pikmin isn't great. What's wrong with it. Is it not directional enough?
It's unforgivable that the WiiU doesn't support surround for Netflix.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
No center channel, LFE channel (nearly) not present and many soundlevels are too low (bad mixing).
It´s better when your AVR has Audyssey with Dynamic EQ, which ups the sounds that are too low, but the sound is still far from ideal.
The lack of center speaker is the most annoying.
For me personally the sound in Pikmin is much better with the WiiU on stereo and the AVR on Pro Logic II.
cyberheater
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No center channel. Ha ha. WTF Nintendo.
"Audyssey with Dynamic EQ" - My Onkyo amp has that.
Thanks for the info.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
Yes, it supports multi-channel PCM.
so a question..
I recently got a new AVR (Denon x2000). So hooked up HDMI, set Wii U to surround. Two issues:
Center channel is crazy low in like everything. As one example, going through the menus at the start of Lego City, you can no longer hear the "click" while selecting options. I mean it is BARELY audible. Another example would be super quiet "voices" during Pikmin 3 while the music and ambient FX are through the roof. Not as bad as Lego City, but still noticeably quieter.
The second problem, which seems really odd, is that since I turned surround on, my Gamepad audio is now much quieter also. When originally playing Lego City in stereo on my old receiver, I would actually turn down the gamepad audio slightly when the video calls would come through in the game. Now they are much softer to the point where I have to have the gamepad within say like 12-18 inches from my head just to hear them well. Same thing now with Pikmin 3. Any time a communique comes through from another captain, there "gibberish" is at about the same level the audio in Lego City is.
So I set my audio back to Stereo in settings, and everything goes back to normal levels. I'm guessing this is just Wii U being Wii U.. just wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and/or has any suggestions?
I recently got a new AVR (Denon x2000). So hooked up HDMI, set Wii U to surround. Two issues:
Center channel is crazy low in like everything. As one example, going through the menus at the start of Lego City, you can no longer hear the "click" while selecting options. I mean it is BARELY audible. Another example would be super quiet "voices" during Pikmin 3 while the music and ambient FX are through the roof. Not as bad as Lego City, but still noticeably quieter.
The second problem, which seems really odd, is that since I turned surround on, my Gamepad audio is now much quieter also. When originally playing Lego City in stereo on my old receiver, I would actually turn down the gamepad audio slightly when the video calls would come through in the game. Now they are much softer to the point where I have to have the gamepad within say like 12-18 inches from my head just to hear them well. Same thing now with Pikmin 3. Any time a communique comes through from another captain, there "gibberish" is at about the same level the audio in Lego City is.
So I set my audio back to Stereo in settings, and everything goes back to normal levels. I'm guessing this is just Wii U being Wii U.. just wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and/or has any suggestions?
Metroid Killer
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So I'm looking into buying an AVR as I'm watching more and more cinematic stuff on my TV(Netlifx and the rare good show on TV) as well as playing Wii U.
To find out that Netflix(which I'm streaming via Wii U) is just stereo on Wii U is really disheartening, and that Nintendo's own 'big' titles are a mess with the audio is making me rethink if it's a bad time to buy a reciever...
To find out that Netflix(which I'm streaming via Wii U) is just stereo on Wii U is really disheartening, and that Nintendo's own 'big' titles are a mess with the audio is making me rethink if it's a bad time to buy a reciever...
I just purchased a used Sony Ht-SS2300 receiver and 5.1 speaker system from craigslist and tested it out with my Wii U. So far I've ran BLOPS2 and had perfect surround sound with no issues. I've also used it to play Xenoblade through the Wii emulator, with only stereo sound produced.
Just wanted to give a heads up, I know I had difficulty identifying what exact models would work for surround sound on the Wii U in case anyone else was in the market for a new system. Maybe we could get a list of models that DO work in the first post?
Just wanted to give a heads up, I know I had difficulty identifying what exact models would work for surround sound on the Wii U in case anyone else was in the market for a new system. Maybe we could get a list of models that DO work in the first post?
While this is semi relevant, I'm starting to research some systems.
Is LPCM the same as, or a subset of multi-channel PCM?
ie if I got something like this, would it support Wii U surround sound?
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/system_components/home_theater/ht-s3500/index.html
Note under specs it says:
Thanks in advance for anyone who can confirm either way.
Is LPCM the same as, or a subset of multi-channel PCM?
ie if I got something like this, would it support Wii U surround sound?
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/system_components/home_theater/ht-s3500/index.html
Note under specs it says:
Thanks in advance for anyone who can confirm either way.
I don't have a receiver, I have a blu-ray player that receive the sound boxes and the toslink conection.
I also have one of these: https://www.mycablemart.com/store/images/products/2464_small.jpg
Receivers in Brazil are VERY expensive, like more than 800 USD. =/
I also have one of these: https://www.mycablemart.com/store/images/products/2464_small.jpg
Receivers in Brazil are VERY expensive, like more than 800 USD. =/
luknotluck
Member
Not sure if this has been answered yet.
Does the Wii U audio work if I plug in the video through HDMI, but the audio comes thru the component or AV cables?
Does the Wii U audio work if I plug in the video through HDMI, but the audio comes thru the component or AV cables?