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[Blades64]

You know, I JUST saw the leaked Wii U devkit specs for the first time. And you know what? I'm ok with it. I'm pretty excited about it actually. Nintendo art + those specs = me buying the Wii U.

Besides, I'm getting a new PC next year anyway, so if I want my inner 'graficx whoare' fix, then I can play some games on that.

Excited for the Nintendo conference! Hopefully they deliver the goods.

 

[D-e-f-]

Because I like seeing this thread in a frenzy (sometimes ), I won't go into detail, but I do have reason to believe that due to the possibility of 2GB of total memory the non-gaming functions were not reduced from the dev kit (at least for now) and the final will have 1GB dedicated to that and the other 1GB to games.

Off to work!

Oh my! Now I've figured it out!

This is why Nintendo is so confident in the Wii U! There will be a CONSTANT stream of of porn in the background that can be called up on the gamepad screen at a whim! This will make them brazillians! The porn industry has a history of being a deciding factor in what product becomes the new standard. Now the sexual innuendo jokes about "wii" finally have a justification.

Nintendo wins the world by using porn!

 

[10k]

Because I like seeing this thread in a frenzy (sometimes ), I won't go into detail, but I do have reason to believe that due to the possibility of 2GB of total memory the non-gaming functions were not reduced from the dev kit (at least for now) and the final will have 1GB dedicated to that and the other 1GB to games.

Off to work!

1GB dedicated to the OS? My god. I hope you're joking. 1 gig of ram will be nothing next gen. I was hoping for a 1.5GB for games and 512mb for the OS kid of split.

 

[ohlawd]

Because I like seeing this thread in a frenzy (sometimes ), I won't go into detail, but I do have reason to believe that due to the possibility of 2GB of total memory the non-gaming functions were not reduced from the dev kit (at least for now) and the final will have 1GB dedicated to that and the other 1GB to games.

Off to work!

1 GB not dedicated to games... well Nintendo better allow devs to tap in to that eventually.

 

[Sadist]

Finally, the walls are slowly crumbling. We got Sniper Ghost Warrior 2, F1 Race Stars... hope the floodgates will be released next week.

 

[pulsemyne]

Whats most likely is its 1 gig for the game and 512 for the GPU and 512 for the OS. The eurogamer article was very ambiguous in its wording.

This could mean a difference between main memory and the GPU memory type (quite likely).

 

[-Naruto-]

Beans Ni**a!!! (in my pollo loco voice)

 

[EuroMIX]

What's this originally from?

 

[Kacho]

lol context?

bg, why you gotta be such a tease!

Finally, the walls are slowly crumbling. We got Sniper Ghost Warrior 2, F1 Race Stars... hope the floodgates will be released next week.

I'm just ready for some game announcements worthy of excitement. The lack of information is beginning to wear me down.

 

[Earendil]

oh joy.....can't unsee.

My work here is done.

@bg:

1GB for the OS????? That's crazy talk.

 

[ozfunghi]

1GB dedicated to the OS? My god. I hope you're joking. 1 gig of ram will be nothing next gen. I was hoping for a 1.5GB for games and 512mb for the OS kid of split.

Honestly, this goes back to when Ideaman first popped up in WUST2 and said the amount of memory reserved for the OS & "apps" was unusually large and if or how Nintendo could free up some of that memory for games, once the OS/apps were finished and optimized to use as little as possible memory. That was back in 1985 if i remember correctly.

 

[EuroMIX]

Would be kind of funny if Nintendo had put in 2GB total and had only given developers 1GB to work with for now while they are mostly doing ports that won't need that much RAM yet, and would free more up later.

Doubt it though.

From what I've seen suggested by people here, is freeing up some of the 512MB OS RAM later a strong possibility or inevitability?

 

[Hoodbury]

That was back in 1985 if i remember correctly.

1985? You don't say.

 

[axisofweevils]

Hey... Is it just me or is it a Wii console in that charging station on the left?

Please don't tell me they think the Wii U is a gamepad accessory for the Wii?!

 

[Plinko]

1 GB for OS and 1GB for games isn't that worrisome--didn't they just reallocate some RAM that 3DS had available for the OS back to games? I'd think they'd be able to do that, no?

 

[Moz La Punk]

Hey... Is it just me or is it a Wii console in that charging station on the left?

Please don't tell me they think the Wii U is a gamepad accessory for the Wii?!

nah I think its a wii u

 

[snowdog1971]

It's a simplistic take. It lacks the subtlety of reality and denigrates gamers into two neat categories that don't actually exist.

I'd personally say that hardcore gamers do exist, but whether someone can be categorised as a hardcore gamer or not isn't dependant on what sort of games they play and enjoy. It all comes down to how they play rather than what they play.

I consider myself to be a hardcore gamer because I play games to completion whenever I can, am very competitive in both local and online play and most of the time, thanks to the industry going downhill and making games too easy these days, I don't use the likes of bullet-time etc and don't like to hide behind cover whilst my health regenerates - I tend to run and gun instead, rarely use ADS and always turn off aim-assist when possible. Running and gunning does tend to mess up the AI sometimes, I completed Killzones 2 and 3 doing that and there were a couple of times where I'd got behind the enemy and those Helghast fellahs didn't know what to do with themselves lololol.

For me, just about every game can be a hardcore game, it isn't the game it's the way you play it. Especially the likes of mini-game collections such as Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Rayman Raving Rabbids and in particular Mario and Sonic At The Olympics.

There's a new trailer released by Ubisoft for ZombiU, I'll post it later if someone hasn't done so already...I'm playing catch up again lol. Looks like the lighting has improved a little further, AA is there and better ansiotropic filtering too. Pretty much what I was expecting given the difference in IQ between the E3 Nursery footage and the Comic Con footage not so long ago. Nice.

 

[Oddduck]

1 GB for OS and 1GB for games isn't that worrisome--didn't they just reallocate some RAM that 3DS had available for the OS back to games? I'd think they'd be able to do that, no?

There's no confirmation yet on the OS.

Emily rogers pmed me on Twitter and asked me to send info to bgassassin. so he can compare it to other info/documents had had. Me and bgassassin have been having a few discussions.

The 1GB for games/apps is very legit. The problem is there's no info on the OS yet. That's why Eurogamer didn't post anything about the OS either. Only games/apps.

 

[Plinko]

There's no confirmation yet on the OS.

Emily rogers pmed me on Twitter and asked me to send info to bgassassin. so he can compare it to other info/documents had had. Me and bgassassin have been having a few discussions.

The 1GB for games/apps is very legit. The problem is there's no info on the OS yet. That's why Eurogamer didn't post anything about the OS either. Only games/apps.

If this thing is coming out in 2 months, wouldn't that have to be nailed down already? Aren't these things already being mass-produced?

 

[Hoo-doo]

Well, if the thing has a lot going on in the background with Miiverse, 1GB wouldn't be that much of a stretch for the OS alone.

Disappointing amount available for the actual games though.

 

[Earendil]

1985? You don't say.

I could have sworn it was fall of '84 myself. I was in third grade and the world was my oyster.

 

[Oddduck]

If this thing is coming out in 2 months, wouldn't that have to be nailed down already? Aren't these things already being mass-produced?

Yes, that's why you're seeing info about this leaking all over the place right now. The timing of her tweets about the ram being 1 GB for games and then Eurogamer's article shouldn't be taken lightly. They literally happened on the same day. Eurogamer's article came hours later. Too coincidental.

After talking to bg, I think he agrees too on the 1GB for games/apps.

 

[tapedeck]

Hey... Is it just me or is it a Wii console in that charging station on the left?

Please don't tell me they think the Wii U is a gamepad accessory for the Wii?!

Yeah its a Wii U but I dont blame you for being confused, I have to look closely to see the difference if its a weird angle. Not to derail but it does make me wonder how many out of the loop consumers will even recognize it as a different console.

 

[Log4Girlz]

So 1 GB for games for now and the OS is eating up a GB "Just in case", so it'll probably be reduced in future, oddly enough giving a bit more performance from the machine down the line.

 

[Pineconn]

nah I think its a wii u

And this is the problem Nintendo will face. -_-

 

[Moz La Punk]

And this is the problem Nintendo will face. -_-

Agreed.

 

[Zing]

Old?

ZombiU - Buckingham Palace escape gameplay video.

The zombie with the helmet reminded me of Plants v Zombies.

 

[Hoodbury]

And this is the problem Nintendo will face. -_-

The only thing I hope this eventually eludes to is that it will make it so I don't have to wait 3 months to find one in stores.

 

[DragonSworne]

Nintendo is CRaZy if they are reserving 50% of the memory for the OS. What the hell do they think they will implement with 1 gig of ram?

Xbox reserved 32MB of 512MBfor the OS at launch, this was only 6% of the total memory. Sony reserved more of the ram initially for the OS in PS3, 120MB of 512MB, which is 23% of the memory. But they dropped the amount reserved to 50MB in 3 years, only needing 9% of the memory the OS.


Why does Nintendo need 50%???????

Could it only be 1gig for total for the OS and video buffer? And 1 gig for the game?

 

[Hoo-doo]

Nintendo is CRaZy if they are reserving 50% of the memory for the OS. What the hell do they think they will implement with 1 gig of ram?

Xbox reserved 32MB of 512MBfor the OS at launch, this was only 6% of the total memory. Sony reserved more of the ram initially for the OS in PS3, 120MB of 512MB, which is 23% of the memory. But they dropped the amount reserved to 50MB in 3 years, only needing 9% of the memory the OS.


Why does Nintendo need 50%???????

To be fair, the PS3 XMB while in a game is garbage. It's extremely slow and so constrained by memory that it apparently won't even allow cross-game voice chat. 360 dash I haven't used in years but I think it's fair to say that the in-game dashboard is far from fully-featured, seeing as most actions will inevitably end the game you are currently playing.

If the Wii-U doesn't have these limitations, i'd consider that a huge step forward. A fast and fully featured console OS available no matter what you are doing without having to quit out of the game? That would be great.

 

[Nibel]

Nintendo is CRaZy if they are reserving 50% of the memory for the OS. What the hell do they think they will implement with 1 gig of ram?

Xbox reserved 32MB of 512MBfor the OS at launch, this was only 6% of the total memory. Sony reserved more of the ram initially for the OS in PS3, 120MB of 512MB, which is 23% of the memory. But they dropped the amount reserved to 50MB in 3 years, only needing 9% of the memory the OS.


Why does Nintendo need 50%???????

Could it only be 1gig for total for the OS and video buffer? And 1 gig for the game?

Video chatting, web browsing, taking notes, friend list stuff, checking OS stuff - there could be many reasons. If they do it right, they will turn this into a great multitasking device.

 

[Plinko]

1 GB of RAM for games is now strengthening my belief this isn't over $300 at launch.

Edit: what is the possibility Miiverse has a "spectator mode" where you can watch a friend play?

 

[DragonSworne]

Video chatting, web browsing, taking notes, friend list stuff, checking OS stuff - there could be many reasons. If they do it right, they will turn this into a great multitasking device.

Here's hoping they deliver. I would love to has that all available, but I doubt it will be there day 1.

I wonder how much of it is to stop piracy as well.

 

[10k]

lol context?

bg, why you gotta be such a tease!




I'm just ready for some game announcements worthy of excitement. The lack of information is beginning to wear me down.

Basically it means I'm threatening him because he said the Wii U will only use a GB of ram for games. It was a joke.

Wii U RAM breakdown:

512MB reserved for OS and background applications
1GB reserved for games
256MB reserved for the coffee maker
256MB reserved for the toaster

Confrimed via my source who wishes to be anonymous.

 

[BY2K]

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

 

[Nibel]

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

They know nothing

And I'm certain it won't come out on Wii U - we can predict why. I'll go with "we are to deep in development and Wii U devkits came to late"

 

[Hoo-doo]

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

New rule. If the site has the name Wii-U in the damn title, disregard all their news.

These fansites will report on forum speculation and anonymous gamefaq posts, it's best to not let them hype you up for anything.

 

[BY2K]

They know nothing

And I'm certain it won't come out on Wii U - we can predict why. I'll go with "we are to deep in development and Wii U devkits came to late"

Damn it dude, this was the perfect time to use the "We want to make something unique for it" quote.

 

[Kacho]

Basically it means I'm threatening him because he said the Wii U will only use a GB of ram for games. It was a joke.

No, I was asking about the gif. What's it from? What is he so angry about?

New rule. If the site has the name Wii-U in the damn title, disregard all their news.

These fansites will report on forum speculation and anonymous gamefaq posts, it's best to not let them hype you up for anything.

I agree with this. Nintendo fansites are the worst thing ever. Stop going there.

 

[ohlawd]

I don't expect anything from Loljima.

 

[nordique]

1 GB for OS will mean a mighty impressive OS

And, they can always streamline it down the road to give more ram for games in the future, to perhaps better cope with future PS4/720 ports

Interesting move, Nintendo.

The OS should be epic.


By the way, I should stress bg's mention of the words "for now"

 

[Oddduck]

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

Nintendo shouldn't put Snake in the next Smash Bros unless Kojima puts this on Wii U.

 

[Sadist]

Isn't MGS GS Project Ogre?

If so, it won't be coming. Plus, it's Konami. Their support of Nintendo home consoles is horrificly bad.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Isn't MGS GS Project Ogre?

If so, it won't be coming. Plus, it's Konami. Their support of Nintendo home consoles is horrificly bad.

Didn't someone say that Konami asked Kojima to put some game (it may have been PO) on the Wii U and he turned it down? It seems like Nintendo needs to go directly to him and try to sell him on it. The game isn't going to come out until late 2013 at the earliest, so they've still got time to convince him.

 

[Yuripaw]

I KNEW I should have posted this in this thread instead -_- everyone outside of this thread, is so damn hostile towards the Wii U.

 

[Sadist]

Didn't someone say that Konami asked Kojima to put some game (it may have been PO) on the Wii U and he turned it down? It seems like Nintendo needs to go directly to him and try to sell him on it. The game isn't going to come out until late 2013 at the earliest, so they've still got time to convince him.

It was Project Ogre, and it was first hinted at by SAlberto. About a month later one of the bigger US sites/mags? published a story regarding Kojima and asking about Project Ogre on Wii U, but that basicly confirmed what Alberto said.

 

[D-e-f-]

Hey... Is it just me or is it a Wii console in that charging station on the left?

Please don't tell me they think the Wii U is a gamepad accessory for the Wii?!

why? you can clearly see that that's a Wii U case.

Nintendo is CRaZy if they are reserving 50% of the memory for the OS. What the hell do they think they will implement with 1 gig of ram?

Xbox reserved 32MB of 512MBfor the OS at launch, this was only 6% of the total memory. Sony reserved more of the ram initially for the OS in PS3, 120MB of 512MB, which is 23% of the memory. But they dropped the amount reserved to 50MB in 3 years, only needing 9% of the memory the OS.


Why does Nintendo need 50%???????

Could it only be 1gig for total for the OS and video buffer? And 1 gig for the game?

I told you guys. Porn.

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

As I wrote in the GoN comments ... I guarantee that this rumor started because someone overexcitedly (German fansite ...) interpreted the "and we're working to bring Foxengine/MGSGZ to next gen platforms" as "Wii U and next Xbox". The source of this should be the obvious clue here.

This means nothing. Move along.

The game isn't going to come out until late 2013 at the earliest, so they've still got time to convince him.

Apparently he said it won't "take that long" this time.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

Didn't someone say that Konami asked Kojima to put some game (it may have been PO) on the Wii U and he turned it down? It seems like Nintendo needs to go directly to him and try to sell him on it. The game isn't going to come out until late 2013 at the earliest, so they've still got time to convince him.

I recall SA saying that. Don't know how he knows that, but I believe him.

As for your second point, Konami won't even put Lords of Shadow 2 on the Wii U even though the game linking LoS1 and 2 is on Nintendo's handheld. That along with MGS3D just scream of being thrown a bone. At some point, Nintendo needs to roll in with a bag of money if it wants serious support, even if it's a situation where it shouldn't have to.

Nintendo shouldn't put Snake in the next Smash Bros unless Kojima puts this on Wii U.

That's not enough to get a company to change its mind, but at some point it's time to stop playing nice. Nintendo apparently did this with Bionic Commando, if you remember that misguided attempt at a reboot. The story goes that Nintendo refused to allow Capcom to put out Bionic Commando on the virtual console because the new game and Rearmed where not coming out on Nintendo systems. Similarly, if the new MGS isn't on Wii U, then why should Nintendo money and time promoting Snake in Super Smash Bros?

 

[Roo]

Nintendo is CRaZy if they are reserving 50% of the memory for the OS. What the hell do they think they will implement with 1 gig of ram?

Xbox reserved 32MB of 512MBfor the OS at launch, this was only 6% of the total memory. Sony reserved more of the ram initially for the OS in PS3, 120MB of 512MB, which is 23% of the memory. But they dropped the amount reserved to 50MB in 3 years, only needing 9% of the memory the OS.


Why does Nintendo need 50%???????

Could it only be 1gig for total for the OS and video buffer? And 1 gig for the game?

To be honest, the same could happen to Wii U
It could end up just using 25% of the total memory (what Ideaman predicted/was told)
I just can't see how Nintendo could use a whole GB for the OS only but if they do, it really will hurt development next gen and.. well, is gonna be delightful to update Wii U's firmware lol

There'a a rumour that there was some chit-chat about MGS Ground Zeroes hitting Wii U.

http://www.wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/992-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-angekuendigt

I have my doubts.

Same here. Would be cool though

Nintendo shouldn't put Snake in the next Smash Bros unless Kojima puts this on Wii U.

lol
well played

 

[Pineconn]

I KNEW I should have posted this in this thread instead -_- everyone outside of this thread, is so damn hostile towards the Wii U.

Probably shouldn't have posted it at all. Much of what people will do depends on the price, unknown services, and possible pack-in equipment/games.