TheMoon
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I think all the Xbox One BC stuff is an automatic carryover for digital purchases on 360 if they're supported under BC. But not sure.
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Will we have to rebuy our digital titles on the NX? Can Nintendo get away with it?
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I think all the Xbox One BC stuff is an automatic carryover for digital purchases on 360 if they're supported under BC. But not sure.
ViolentP
Member
Is the upgrade optional?
Which makes sense as you can still play it on the system you purchased it on.
Gamecocks625
Member
Just keep those Classic Mini consoles coming after the NES and I'll be happy
Yes
People will keep buying Super Mario Bros for the 20349875th time so yes. They will get away with it an sell them once again. Releasing one single NES game a week as well instead of launching the whole library in a Netflix-esque subscription way because Nintendo likes to party like it's 2006.
Movalpolos
Banned
And unlike Nintendo, they added incentive with trophies and proper upscaling. You're better off playing old Nintendo games on PC than an actual WiiU. They cant even emulate their own games properly. That's pathetic.
ViolentP
Member
So you can transfer the games to your Wii U from your Wii for free. What exactly does this upgrade do? I ask because I genuinely don't know how Nintendo has handled this.
The Hermit
Member
A Nintendo universal account is all I want. Thats it.
Yes, we'll have to rebuy.
Yes, there will be an upgrade fee.
However, my utmost hope is that all VC currently on Wii U will be available day one. I believe Nintendo has said that Wii U VC architecture was designed to be forward compatible to be folded into future hardware. Anyone have a quote handy about this?
Yes, there will be an upgrade fee.
However, my utmost hope is that all VC currently on Wii U will be available day one. I believe Nintendo has said that Wii U VC architecture was designed to be forward compatible to be folded into future hardware. Anyone have a quote handy about this?
DownGrader
Member
Hey, Konami is actually one of the best Wii U VC supporters, if not the best one after Nintendo itself. Lots of Konami and Hudson titles are on the service.
(Square Enix in the West, on the other hand...)
KZXcellent
Member
Of course Nintendo will get away with it. It's not like they're committing a crime. People who don't like the idea of re-buying the games won't. They can just as easily play on the older systems.
TheGamingBox
Banned
of course they can
Movalpolos
Banned
Then they need to incentivize it by adding features. From a consumer stand point it makes no sense to buy the same game again otherwise. Nintendo failed by not having an account system or cross buy. They just nickel and dime their anemic userbase.
It lets you play the games in Wii U mode. So you don't need to boot into the Wii mode.
Also it lets you play the games on the gamepad.
The Hermit
Member
Btw its a damn shame what happened to the VC after the Wii era.
It had so much potential and even had old exclusive games like Drácula X and Sin & Punishment.
WiiWare was great too an look what happened...
It had so much potential and even had old exclusive games like Drácula X and Sin & Punishment.
WiiWare was great too an look what happened...
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
I don't think it will be the entire library but maybe 10 nes, 5 Snes, 3 N64, 2 GC or some combination of the like.
spazimoose
Member
Should you have to pay again? Yes, absolutely.
Nintendo will will have to write code, test and release the game again. Nintendo has new expenses associated with the game, they sell the game to cover those costs and make a profit. If it was literally just flipping a switch and the old game ran perfectly on the new thing then you have a right to complain. But that is almost certainly not the case with NX. If you buy a game once on a platform one time that does not entitle you to every version of it on every platforms. If you dont like this practice then dont buy it again.
Nintendo will will have to write code, test and release the game again. Nintendo has new expenses associated with the game, they sell the game to cover those costs and make a profit. If it was literally just flipping a switch and the old game ran perfectly on the new thing then you have a right to complain. But that is almost certainly not the case with NX. If you buy a game once on a platform one time that does not entitle you to every version of it on every platforms. If you dont like this practice then dont buy it again.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Yes, and yes.
Should we have to rebuy them?
No.
Should Nintendo get away with having us rebuy them?
No.
Should we have to rebuy them?
No.
Should Nintendo get away with having us rebuy them?
No.
DownGrader
Member
After the transfer, all your titles from Wii will be available in Wii U's "Wii Menu"-- basically, Wii operating system the Wii U reboots to.
You can then play them as you did on Wii, or buy their native Wii U version at a great discount. Native versions have some additional functionality like the support for Wii U controllers, save states, button remappings and other functions depending on the platform.
I think they will have an upgrade fee again for people who already bought the game - i would assume thats because they might add new features for the NX emulation of the old system and well...they also have to port/test the games for a new architecture - so some work is involved.
They need to somehow realize online multiplayer for VC games.
They need to somehow realize online multiplayer for VC games.
What does Sony have to do with this? Guess you felt the need to deflect some shots from the trenches.
ViolentP
Member
Got it, thanks. Maybe it's just me but that seems kinda crazy. In my opinion, these services should be provided for free.
DownGrader
Member
Eh. I'd say Wii U Virtual Console is a good successor, especially in Europe, where we got two EarthBound games for the first time and were mostly free of 50 Hz hell. The games selection is nicer than the US one too, AFAIK.
Movalpolos
Banned
marcbret87
Member
While that might be true, you also have examples like BC in XOne, where you carry over your games from 360 (at least the ones available) at no extra cost. Or the apps that you buy in your Android device carrying over to the next one. I'd expect Nintendo to make you pay a fee to upgrade, not full price.
sensui-tomo
Member
you had to buy them on wii-u to play it on native wii-u, you didnt have to pay to transfer them to wii mode on wii-u aka not on gamepad, and on old controllers from wii. sony shared purchases between psp/ps3/psv and nintendo never allowed that.
ViolentP
Member
Even GOG is giving you free copies of games you own on Steam. I do not see any logical reasoning behind being charged for a game you already bought. Now, if they released a new version of the game, then charge for it. But the exact copy you already own for access to a particular controller and interface? Crazytown.
TheGamingBox
Banned
well they are
You don't have to tell me that, but you can still have them on your Wii U for no extra charge.
MulderYuffie
Member
yeah probably
You trying to impress Reggie? Quite cringe worthy read. By that logic we should pay for updates made to the OS too. MS offered BC for free, the standard has been set, so customers are right to ask for the same from others.
sensui-tomo
Member
not technically on the wii-u since its in the wii portion. wii-u VC works differently than wii mode VC, the fact that required a paywall was absurd. considering sony let you use the games on 3 different platforms (and multiple devices for said platforms which enabled gamesharing)
Bear Force One
Banned
Every person that keeps rebuying them is at fault.
Nintendo also offered the same level of BC for free. Anything digital from your Wii can be brought up for free and played in Wii Mode, with some slight enhancements. I didn't see MS giving away anything remastered for free.
Wii U VC does have Miiverse integration, full Gamepad integration, a new save state system. So if you want to pay for that, you can.
Well. Yes and no. You could transfer over your Wii content and run the Wii U in Wii mode to access all your old stuff for free. You did have to pay a fee to get the purchases over into Wii U mode though.
ViolentP
Member
Are you really comparing gamepad integration, save system, and Miiverse integration to a remaster? Holy fuck.
Where do you get that idea? Nintendo is nowhere near that savvy. Besides, why charge $10/mo for a sub when you can charge $5-10 a game a people keep paying for it?
ViolentP
Member
Different scenario. The digital and physical media markets are independent of each other and the PS2 didn't have digital games. Now, if Sony decides to release PS3 games on the PS4, it would be interesting which system the would go, Nintendo or Microsoft.
Murdamonk
Member
True. But at least when you buy PS1 classics for the PS3, it is playable on the Vita and PSP too (most of them anyways).
In Nintendo's case, you need to buy them both on the 3ds and the Wii.