IMO the best choice out of the launch lineup. Give us impressions when you get it!besiktas1 said:*gulp* I just ordered an omnia 7, there goes my choice for my next phone for the next 24 months... and I'm SOO excited!
dLMN8R said:How do you know that's not exactly what they're doing? I mean, the things not even out yet...
besiktas1 said:*gulp* I just ordered an omnia 7, there goes my choice for my next phone for the next 24 months... and I'm SOO excited!
Brettison said:That being said I'm not that up in arms over the little things not being there. I'm more cautiously worried that we won't get updates to the platform as fast and frequently as I like from MS or that AT&T will some how cock block me even if MS is on the ball.
venne said:I guess I'm not seeing the incentive for carriers to hold back updates. I doubt any carrier wants to be the one to get the update out last.
Brettison said:The problem is this is RATIONAL thinking and the carriers are anything but! :lol :lol :lol
To sell new phones with the platform update built in.venne said:I understand the skepticism, but what in your eyes is the incentive to withhold a platform update?
I don't. And what 'thing' do you mean? Windows Phone 7? It is 'out'. It officially launched yesterday and everything else doesn't matter. This isn't a feature request for the OS, so the OS dev team doesn't have anything to do with it. If Microsoft can offer a full featured WLM with Facebook chat for the Zune HD (a basically dead platform, ffs!), then there's no reason not to have it available at launch for the WP7 OS. They always said since MIX10 how easy it is and how little time it takes to port Zune HD apps to the WP7 platform.dLMN8R said:How do you know that's not exactly what they're doing? I mean, the things not even out yet...
sweetvar26 said:So for North America, which ones are the best phones so far?
Mr. Snrub said:So, this may be a dumb question, but is it possible to upgrade from the iPhone 3GS to the Samsung Focus? I've never participated in a real "launch" so I'm not sure how this works.
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Firestorm said:To sell new phones with the platform update built in.
mr stroke said:should be(considering your eligible for a contract upgrade-1-2 years into contract with ATT)
then sell your 3GS on craigslist(sold ours for $170 with in 2 hours of posting it)
Apparently that's what they did with Windows Mobile before. Not too sure on it. I'm hoping it doesn't happen this time and if it does, Microsoft goes apeshit on their asses.venne said:I don't see how that is beneficial if you already have people locked in for two years.
I don't think they are able to designate which phones get upgraded, I believe it's platform wide.
Seems like a good way to alienate your users.
Man, this is confusing. The Microsoft site says 512MB RAM/1GB ROM for the Focus, Engadget says 256MB RAM, 512MB ROM. Samsung's site for the Omnia7 doesn't mention the amount of RAM/ROM at all.venne said:Seems like they are extending a courtesy to the carriers. I doubt anything really prevents them from just shoving it on Zune.
Engadget reviewed the Focus. Seems like most of the beef was with the case. Glad to hear the camera is excellent; that's my biggest reason for getting this device for my wife.
I'm waiting for one or two Venue Pro reviews. If I don't like what I read, it's going to be a Samsung.besiktas1 said:So other than me and magnihalvar (hopefully tomorrow) who else has ordered one on gaf?
I'm looking through zune client and thinking it's scary the amount of apps and games I will buy, just have to remember not to get too carried away :S Good things there's trials, this way by the time I go through them ALL i hope the "giddyness" goes and I come back to my senses. :lol
Also I still wish I could have bought them using my points I've hoarded any one with MS "contacts" can they ask if that will be an option in the future for me please?
Engadget just updated the article to confirm the 512MB/1GB.brotkasten said:Man, this is confusing. The Microsoft site says 512MB RAM/1GB ROM for the Focus, Engadget says 256MB RAM, 512MB ROM. Samsung's site for the Omnia7 doesn't mention the amount of RAM/ROM at all.
Cj70 said:Just phoned t-mobile UK to cancel my previous sim only contract. They told me that the batch of samsung omnia 7s they received failed their quality checks and all got sent back lol. Going to order one from buymobilephones.net now, hopefully they got a good batch :\
Going for
£30 p/m for 18 months with 5 months 1/2 price
600 mins, 500 texts, unlim data and free phone
http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobi...le/T-Mobile-30-(18mths)-inc.-Internet/7336504
Never bought a phone on contract like this before... Am I falling into any traps or is this a good deal?
thx
They changed their mind, because enough people complained about it and don't want MS points (I'm one of them). Seriously, MS points on a smartphone is probably the worst idea ever.besiktas1 said:Money spent on songs is lame I don't get the reasoning behind it tbh, MS was pushing the points hard, plus they get more "control" with their own currency, wonder what made them change their mind...
Phew, thanks! :lolep85 said:Engadget just updated the article to confirm the 512MB/1GB.
It's not. Give us a choice. If my Live ID is so linked to my phone, my MS points should automatically be on there. Not to mention I'd rather have my MS Points saved on my phone and Zune account than my credit card number.brotkasten said:They changed their mind, because enough people complained about it and don't want MS points (I'm one of them). Seriously, MS points on a smartphone is probably the worst idea ever.
brotkasten said:HTC HD7 (T-Mo), Dell Venue Pro (T-Mo), Samsung Focus (AT&T)
I thought your CC is also linked to your Live ID?Firestorm said:It's not. Give us a choice. If my Live ID is so linked to my phone, my MS points should automatically be on there. Not to mention I'd rather have my MS Points saved on my phone and Zune account than my credit card number.
I've never put a Credit Card on my Live ID and would rather not if I don't have to. For WP7 I may need to which sucks. I've used Live Gold and MS Points card this entire time as it's muuuuch cheaper than using cash. Anywhere between 20% and 50% (okay 100% but yeah in normal cases!).brotkasten said:I thought your CC is also linked to your Live ID?
Firestorm said:I've never put a Credit Card on my Live ID and would rather not if I don't have to. For WP7 I may need to which sucks. I've used Live Gold and MS Points card this entire time as it's muuuuch cheaper than using cash. Anywhere between 20% and 50% (okay 100% but yeah in normal cases!).
trinest said:Whats with all the Samsung love? They are EVIL. EVIL.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lolsalva said:They seem to be making top-notch cellphones lately.
venne said:Engadget reviewed the Focus. Seems like most of the beef was with the case. Glad to hear the camera is excellent; that's my biggest reason for getting this device for my wife.
Their Super AMOLED screens are top notch. Their insistence on using cheap glossy plastics on a majority of their high end smartphones is not.salva said:They seem to be making top-notch cellphones lately.
This is why I'm keen on the Dell... you get the AMOLED screen coupled with some thick'n'chunky N95-esque slide out keyboard styles and gorilla glass. Perfect combo.ep85 said:Their Super AMOLED screens are top notch. Their insistence on using cheap glossy plastics on a majority of their high end smartphones is not.
That Samsung Focus is looking more and more smexy with every passing day, though.
salva said:They seem to be making top-notch cellphones lately.
I've yet to come across someone here in England with a negative experience of Samsung phones.trinest said::lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Theres not enough lols in the world.
cartoon_soldier said:Wish AT&T was getting better phones
Welcome to the post-iPhone world.Sir Fragula said:Okay, so what's the deal with all the fucking Tip Calculators in the Application store?
The Dell will only be AMOLED though, not Super AMOLED.Shaneus said:This is why I'm keen on the Dell... you get the AMOLED screen coupled with some thick'n'chunky N95-esque slide out keyboard styles and gorilla glass. Perfect combo.