HarryDemeanor
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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
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hankster
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Word. Been on 7+ for last few months and it has been fine. Apps glorious apps but the OS is so very so so. Contact management really terrible, something I took for granted on WP.
Have my brother on a 640 which he still loves and attempted to get him on 10 but could not get MMS working on Straight Talk so had to roll him back to 8. He liked what he saw and is thinking about switching to Cricket which I used with 10 with no issues on a 640 and a 950 so I'll get him back on there... 640 still an excellent little phone esp. for the money and still runs great with latest 10 build (I keep mine up to date to keep tabs).
brotkasten
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As an Italian, I don't think the "HoloLens pose" will ever stop being funny to me.
Astral/H3X
Member
As an Italian, I don't think the "HoloLens pose" will ever stop being funny to me.
Bahahahaha.
(Half Italian family here)
On a side note, I do like the look of that blue one.
Roberto Larcos
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A family member that isn't good with technology is in a tricky situation. They have a Lumia 830 that they have enjoyed using, like the layout, but it's become unbearably slow of late.
I'm not sure if I can recommend a Lumia 950. It's cheap enough, that's not the issue. The issues are whether WhatsApp will stick around, and whether Microsoft apps / the OS will continue to be developed. Of course no-one will have any inside track here, but from what you understand of the situation, are either at risk of ending any time soon?
It's this or an Alcatel Idol 4, most likely. This person only really uses a phone for browsing, texting, calling, email, WhatsApp, checking the weather and taking photos.
I'm not sure if I can recommend a Lumia 950. It's cheap enough, that's not the issue. The issues are whether WhatsApp will stick around, and whether Microsoft apps / the OS will continue to be developed. Of course no-one will have any inside track here, but from what you understand of the situation, are either at risk of ending any time soon?
It's this or an Alcatel Idol 4, most likely. This person only really uses a phone for browsing, texting, calling, email, WhatsApp, checking the weather and taking photos.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Watching Google I/O, I continuously said the same thing to myself.
Microsoft fucking blows man
There was a lot of garbage in Google IO as well. Outside of the Google Assistant stuff and Google lens it was pretty boring/lame. Some of the YouTube stuff, yeeeeeshh
LukasTaves
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What did they showed? I looked only at some live blogs, and the emphasis on AI and machine learning seemed awfuly similar between Ms and google.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I downloaded the Google assistant in iOS and...... Nothing. Doesn't seem materially different from the other personal assistants. I don't live in Google land, maybe that's why. I use Google for search and YouTube and that's it.
Steelyuhas
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Both Google Assistant and Cortana better on their own OS's and aren't as good as just apps on other OS's.
The Faceless Master
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Google Assistant isn't that great on Android either...
Steelyuhas
Member
Voice recognition, specifically recognizing a query even if I don't nail the exact order of phrasing it recommends, is better than Cortana in my experience.
NeOak
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Used to happen when certain ads came up on the screen
Yeah maybe u are right noticed on neogaf just now
For example here
http://m.neogaf.com/subscribed.php
Now it doesn't do it. Maybe its ad related. One more reason why edge extensions has to come to mobile.
For example here
http://m.neogaf.com/subscribed.php
Now it doesn't do it. Maybe its ad related. One more reason why edge extensions has to come to mobile.
You guys might be right. I think it has something to do with ads or lots of embedded things. It's a little choppy on YouTube as well.
I'm pretty sure the store was updated on my laptop this morning. Have to check it out when I get home. I'm liking it.
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-t...sign-ahead-of-potential-fluent-design-revamp/
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-t...sign-ahead-of-potential-fluent-design-revamp/
NeOak
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How long did it take you to learn how to pronounce Penis in the other language?
Lol
hankster
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Deek
runningjoke
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FTFY
juliushandle
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Damn, my wife's 950 is going through frequent random reboots. I wonder if getting a new battery will help? Seems to not reboot when charging. I had to switch her to my spare 950xl. I really wanted her phone as a point and shoot. Hope I can fix it.
brotkasten
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Yes, it's the same thing we've been hearing for a long time now.
MS and OEMs might build small tablets. Thanks to eSIM you might use any carrier you want.
Also, progressive web apps are going to save Windows from being obsolete in the mobile space.
There you go, the dead Surface phone.
https://m.windowscentral.com/exclusive-microsofts-original-vision-lumia-950
Satya doing a good job at killing all the unprofitable consumer products.
https://m.windowscentral.com/exclusive-microsofts-original-vision-lumia-950
Satya doing a good job at killing all the unprofitable consumer products.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Pen support is the only thing I can tell they dropped. The phone looks just as bad in that video.
It's the exact same phone but with pen support. I don't even see any software to take real advantage of the pen - what she did I can do with my finger. The phone itself is no better or worse than the one they released (I still think it was a perfectly fine phone if a bit boring).
If that's their vision for the Surface Phone they might as well not bother.
I strongly suspect it is not. Well, strongly hope. I don't need a pen with my phone. The only thing I use the pen on my surface for is as a mouse replacement when I can't be arsed to attach the keyboard - not really needed on a phone.
If that's their vision for the Surface Phone they might as well not bother.
I strongly suspect it is not. Well, strongly hope. I don't need a pen with my phone. The only thing I use the pen on my surface for is as a mouse replacement when I can't be arsed to attach the keyboard - not really needed on a phone.
Pretty you are correct.
edit: pretty sure, I meant. I haven't met you yet so I wouldn't know.
Yeah that whole leaked "THIS IS WHAT THE 950 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE" video from Windows Central was confusing as all hell to me.
I mean, like, yeah? That video is nearly identical to what my wife has been using for the last 18 months, and she's pretty happy with the phone. Stylus support wouldn't have changed anything for it.
Seems like Windows Central and others are fawning over that 950 video because of the fancy advertisement production quality sheen they added on top of what the phone already does today and has done for the last 18 months.
I mean, like, yeah? That video is nearly identical to what my wife has been using for the last 18 months, and she's pretty happy with the phone. Stylus support wouldn't have changed anything for it.
Seems like Windows Central and others are fawning over that 950 video because of the fancy advertisement production quality sheen they added on top of what the phone already does today and has done for the last 18 months.
Give it to me MS!
No more Silverlight apps, though. Well there go literally zero apps that I'm using.
Too late for me.
You'll be back.
You'll all be back.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
I'm back if it happens.
Neowin has a bit more information
I'm in for another run too. This Lumia 920 is finally starting to show its age.
LukasTaves
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But we already knew that?
I remember hearing back then that even though the phone would support the pen it would be disabled because even uwp didn't used ink for mobile. And the smart cover was cancelled too for a similar reason.
LukasTaves
Member
That isn't exactly new either, the moment things started leaking for cshell and windows on arm it became clear that the goal was to have full windows on all devices with an adaptive UI.
I remember even talking about it, that this at least would be a reboot in hardware only, as the development platform and apps would all continue to work as is.
LukasTaves
Member
Everything is pointing out to the Surface Phone being a complete 2:1 or even 3:1.
A phone that you can dock and become a desktop, and instead of just having a XL large phone another phone that you can unfold into a tablet and also dock into a desktop (with complete win32 support due to windows on arm).
BTW, I watched the Build session about windows in arm. Very impressive work they have done, despite being "emulator" win32 apps should run as if they were native or extremely close regarding performance. Essentially they use the same compatibility layer that allows win64 to run win32 apps, with a few extra tricks for performance.
After about 4 months one the OnePlus 3T:
-Still missing the WP keyboard (used my mom's 640 a few days ago, the autocorrect, prediction and general layout still work much better for me).
-I still don't have a "Do Not Disturb" setting that works as well as the one on WP8.1 did.
-Battery seems to have taken a nosedive after only a few months.
-Contacts, OneNote and Calendar seem to have sync problems with my MS account (I guess that's not Android's fault per se), and I miss the FB calendar sync.
I guess a lot of that could possibly be fixed with some more fiddling, but meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. It feels like my Lumias did a better job of not getting in my way at the basic task of managing my life.
-Still missing the WP keyboard (used my mom's 640 a few days ago, the autocorrect, prediction and general layout still work much better for me).
-I still don't have a "Do Not Disturb" setting that works as well as the one on WP8.1 did.
-Battery seems to have taken a nosedive after only a few months.
-Contacts, OneNote and Calendar seem to have sync problems with my MS account (I guess that's not Android's fault per se), and I miss the FB calendar sync.
I guess a lot of that could possibly be fixed with some more fiddling, but meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. It feels like my Lumias did a better job of not getting in my way at the basic task of managing my life.
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