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Wkd BO 0623-2517 - Transformers snore than meets the eye, Woman keeps up with Cars
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WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
The "Cloverfield" part was the worst part of that film. Let's hope they don't add too much to God Particle and keep it mostly self-contained.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
IIRC that "Cloverfield part" was part of the film before they even pulled the trigger on it officially being part of that brand.
BotoxAgent
Member
Still too high for an abortion of a movie like TF
I couldn't even sit through a trailer for that awful movie
I couldn't even sit through a trailer for that awful movie
It's not about what each film did this weekend. It comes down to whether WW can close the gap. GOTG2's 4th weekend was Memorial Day weekend. So, it was sitting at just over $340M after that holiday weekend. Wonder Woman will be sitting at ~$321M after this Monday.
So it will be a question of whether Wonder Woman can make up the $19M gap.
It has a good shot now, assuming that it doesn't take too big a hit in the next two weeks. If GotG2 collapses in the next two weeks, things will be easier.
Aten has forsaken us
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
The ending you mean? Because if so...then I like the film more.
PhantomX1313
Member
'Wonder Woman legs keep things at Bay'
Wonder Woman Legs Keep Michael at Bay
Wafflecakes
Member
What about "Wonder Woman Legs Keep Paramount At Bay."
How did "legs" become part of the GAF vernacular?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
it's just regular ol' box-office terminology.
Wafflecakes
Member
That isn't a new term and it is in no way isolated to GAF.
Obliterator
Member
It applies to long term sales of lots of products not just films. Same is used when talking about games, books, etc.
It's not a new term
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Even Bronson knew that, smh.
Messofanego
Banned
But why?
Oh, Transformers is Bay's birthday present to you. Nevermind. Will be interesting if you like it or find it disappointing.
RBelong2Us
Member
Glad all these piece of crap movies aren't getting the attention you'd normally expect during the summer popcorn flick shiet show.
Cars, Transformers, Pirates, and Mummy tanking in the states is very refreshing.
Normally you'd see one or two maybe do underwhelming but to see all of them turn into busts is awesome.
Cars, Transformers, Pirates, and Mummy tanking in the states is very refreshing.
Normally you'd see one or two maybe do underwhelming but to see all of them turn into busts is awesome.
My birthday is in the first week of March, so I often have something interesting coming out that weekend. Logan this past year. Also a lot of Snyder films and John Carter. So it's a mixed bag, but there's always something.
I feel bad for people who are born during the second week of September. The best that they can hope for is something like Shoot 'Em Up.
I feel bad for people who are born during the second week of September. The best that they can hope for is something like Shoot 'Em Up.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
December 19 is pretty good; I've got Avatar and Star Wars movies to look forward to for the rest of my life.
Thankfully, international numbers saved Pirates. It was great and I want another.
Yeah, I think that has been cemented as one of the top 5 slots of the year.
RBelong2Us
Member
Eh, revenue overseas works different. The profit margin is not the same at all.
I enjoyed Pirates 5 too. If they release another one, they have to make sure its received better than this one.
Just like Transformers?
I enjoyed the latest Pirates, too, but let's not kid ourselves. They'll just churn out the next one and I doubt it'll be any better.
broncobuster
Banned
As crazy as it sounds, I hope they don't get cold feet on the Bumblebee spin-off. There's solid talent attached to the project and it'd be something other than Mr. Bay handling it after a decade.
The last time Paramount had a film make more than $200m at the US box office was the last Transformers film in 2014 which pulled in $245m. The last time they had a film make more than $500m at the global box office was the last Mission: Impossible film two years ago.
Last Knight should still do $500m+ worldwide but it won't make more than $200m in the US which I suspect the studio was counting on even with it's decreasing grosses.
With the new TF cratering where is the studio going to find it's next franchise given that most of what it does have (Trek, Turtles and M:I) are either dead or getting long in the tooth? Surely a worrying time for everyone on the Melrose Lot.
Last Knight should still do $500m+ worldwide but it won't make more than $200m in the US which I suspect the studio was counting on even with it's decreasing grosses.
With the new TF cratering where is the studio going to find it's next franchise given that most of what it does have (Trek, Turtles and M:I) are either dead or getting long in the tooth? Surely a worrying time for everyone on the Melrose Lot.
Turtles is obviously done for a while and Trek is questionable (the next one with Chris Hemsworth would go either way).
But M:I isn't dead or long in the tooth so I'm not sure where you got that one.
It will take Paramount until November for their 2017 slate to cumulatively make as much as Beauty and the Beast in the domestic market.
They have already released 6 films this year with a combined budget of over $625M. All of those films are looking at $330-350M domestic combined when Transformers finishes up.
EDIT: I think that I had a record number of duplicated words in the original version of this post. I need to take 30 seconds to proofread before hitting the post button!
They have already released 6 films this year with a combined budget of over $625M. All of those films are looking at $330-350M domestic combined when Transformers finishes up.
EDIT: I think that I had a record number of duplicated words in the original version of this post. I need to take 30 seconds to proofread before hitting the post button!
$300m of that was GitS, right?
I'm betting they double down on other Hasbro properties, starting with a GI Joe reboot, simply because they have nothing else. I expect that we'll see word on a Trek reboot/relaunch before too long as well.
Transformers has never had a movie as good as Pirates 1. Pirates has the better track record in good movies. I'm optimistic they'll do better for the next Pirates movie if there is one.
Hollywood sort of backed themselves into a corner in the past decade or two. Animated films are basically the only segment where you can do something original on a large budget and expect success. Two live action films this decade have crossed $700M without either being a sequel, Disney live-action fairy tale, or part of an established (usually superhero) cinematic universe. The two exceptions are Gravity and Inception. Dropping the cut off to $600M gives you 4 more: The Hunger Games, Interstellar, The Martian, and Life of Pi.
That's 6 films of the 75 that have hit $600M+ since 2010. Audiences want something familiar (or from one of the big animation studios). At the same time, audiences get bored of the same stuff.
So studios are burning through the 00s franchise explosion, but are having a tough time coming up with replacements.
GitS: Still number one in Trokill's heart!
That is absolutely insane. At this point I have to think that the gulf between the likes of Sony/Paramount and Warners or Universal, never mind runaway market leader Disney, is probably ground that cannot be made up given the way the current studio system is working.
Even without the various sale/merger rumours surrounding Paramount and SPE it could take a bottomless pit of money and a well over five years for these studios to really start competing with Disney or WB in terms of marketshare. And again that''s assuming that Disney and WB don't further their lead over them.
I doubt we see another Trek film with Pine and Co given how poorly Beyond did and while M:I is still raking it in as a franchise Cruise is 55 this year and I'm not sure how many sequels he has in him. And by 'in him' I mean how eager the audience is to see Cruise still doing this stuff in his sixties, Mr Crusie could of course go on indefinitely.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new CBS Trek series (regardless of quality) puts the separate Trek films in dry dock for a while. Unlike Disney and WB the Trek film and TV series are handled by two different companies meaning that they won't be able to have a Marvel or DCU style film/tv universe.
Fancyarcher
Member
Because China.
Both remnants from a bygone era where shitty movies (critically) could still make big money at the box office.
RT is too powerful these days. Word gets out so fast about how amazing/horrible a movie is and it can and will obliterate a movie's box office now.
Alternatively, positive word of mouth can do AMAZING things for a movie that, on the surface, doesn't seem like a sure thing at the box office. Look no further than Wonder Woman, which is about to outgross Batman v Superman at the domestic box office.
You can't pull Transformers shit anymore. There's too many good movies out there for people to waste their time and money on bullshit.
Nah, there will be another. Beyond disappointed at the box office a bit but they're not going to cancel the already announced Trek 4 with Chris Hemsworth starring alongside Chris Pine.
QuantumZebra
Member
So is WW out grossing Deadpool domestically a lock? And is $700+ happening?
A film with no director and no release date? There's nothing to 'cancel' as you put it, there's simply not a film far enough along, at this moment in time, to even discuss.