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WSJ : PS4 "may allow users to compete against others using different hardware"
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oconnomiyaki
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I don't think the supporting infrastructure is there on a global level to make streaming PS3 games to a phone anything more than a novelty.
Also, I hope Kinect 2 doesn't expect me to have a jumbo upper-middle class size lounge.
Also, I hope Kinect 2 doesn't expect me to have a jumbo upper-middle class size lounge.
Sony doesn't forget their bread and butter. This may be the injection PS Mobile needs but it won't be their main focus.
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IF true then this coincides well with the Xperia Z's coming release. I just want Vita support
Any browser except Chrome I presume.
Smart, but how would they go about monetizing that?
MightyHedgehog
Member
Right, but iOS/Android mobile devices is clearly the priority because of the userbase. So, really, it's still a concern that will govern the complexity of games that work across platforms.
This link did not work for me in either Firefox or Chrome. Went to the WSJ site, but the article was blank. Do you need to be a subscriber to read it?
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Seems like Sony realizes that their console future is not in a box under the TV and is starting the transition away from that. If so' it's the most forward thinking thing they've done in over a generation.
Callibretto
Member
Sony have been talking about consumer expectation of being platform agnostic for a while, people expect game they bought for 1 platform will also work for other platform, cross buy is one of their attempt at that, but going forward, I imagine they'll just use streaming solution.
also, I wonder if they can implement gaikai tech to improve remote play, remote play is basically cloud gaming, but our ps3/4 is our own local cloud server instead of having to rely on Sony server all the time.
the few games like god of war and sotc that is patched with newer version of remote play actually work really well.
also, I wonder if they can implement gaikai tech to improve remote play, remote play is basically cloud gaming, but our ps3/4 is our own local cloud server instead of having to rely on Sony server all the time.
the few games like god of war and sotc that is patched with newer version of remote play actually work really well.
maquiladora
Member
How about this...
Stage is dimly lit, someone is holding a controller. On the screen, Nathan Drake appears...but wait...it's Uncharted 2?! A couple of minutes of gameplay is shown, then - pause. The lights come up, it's Apple CEO Tim Cook holding a PS4 controller. Uncharted 2 was streaming form an Apple TV.
Actually I think Chrome would be the most seamless! Gaikai demo-ed a seamless client for Chrome at Google IO last year I think that just worked out of the box, no need to authorise anything or download java or whatever.
As for monetisation...there's oodles of possibilities.
But let's see what they're actually doing first. I'm hoping PS4 is rolled into this, but even PS3 would be interesting.
ComputerMKII
Banned
If I'm getting a next-gen console there's a 90% chance it's the PS4 (10% Steambox).
Sony understands the needs of the "gamer," but they lack the understanding of the consumer.
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maquiladora
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I updated the link now. Try this.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323764804578311993152891294.html
Google the title and click it from a browser, otherwise you can't see it as a non subscriber.
I had to do this in Chrome for it to work (rather than Firefox)
90TilInfinity
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There is precedent for this, what with cross-platform play between PC and PS3 on Portal 2. Though Steamworks isn't approved middleware on PS3, so I guess only Valve can do it right now. Maybe that'll change going forward if Sony are interested in having PS4 talk with other devices. Though I suppose that's down to Valve as much as it is Sony. Though nothing is stopping developers from making their own setups for this kind of thing, and companies like Ubisoft and EA already have their own internal Steamworks-like account/friends system that would accommodate this kind of thing from a range of devices.
Honestly, the only devices I can't see PS4 having the potential to have some form of cross-platform play with are closed platforms like the next Xbox, 3DS and Wii U.
Honestly, the only devices I can't see PS4 having the potential to have some form of cross-platform play with are closed platforms like the next Xbox, 3DS and Wii U.
Aquamarine
Member
absolutely. that "box" is now built into most TV's. there's no need for the box.
toythatkills
Member
I love that the source for this story is literally "those people."
I think they'll start smaller than that, with 'cloud' games (specifically designed for this) and not big PS4 blockbusters.
It's a lot more realistic.
I don't think this confirms anything of the sort, but I think in the future there will be a gaming-centric phone that's the next evolution of what the Vita is, and as such will be backwards compatible with that system's digital library. It certainly makes more sense than a dedicated handheld, and I'm pretty sure Sony has spoken about Vita's OS being the foundation of a mobile OS going forward.
But I think that's another discussion entirely...
Seems like a no brainer when you own Gaikai. Would be nice if you could purchase a disc and then that game would be activated for your account somehow. Although this would cause issues with selling games. They probably only allow this for games purchased digitally from their store.
It's the WSJ. They know what they're talking about.
Brawndo Addict
Banned
I don't think anyone doubts that the future is going to be all about widespread high speed wireless internet and cloud based services. But I don't think the infrastructure and monetization required for that is in place yet. If you find yourself frustrated at multiplayer lag now, I fail to see how pushing the entire game online is a step in the right direction. As a stepping stone for the next wave 5, 10, 15+ years down the road it's a smarter investment. But the reality is we're still arguing about the merits of an always online requirement and the overall quality of internet access to the average consumer needs to go way up both in terms of reliability, speed, cost, and availability.
suddenlyissoon
Member
Definitely sounds like Sony is headed one direction, MS the other. I'm a bigger fan of the 360 than the PS3 but it sounds like that might change in the next generation.
DeaconKnowledge
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BrainZEROX
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PS+PS2+PS3+PS4 games streamed to your WiiU browser streamed to your gamepad.
Or anything with a browser. PS+ for literally everyone.
Or anything with a browser. PS+ for literally everyone.
Callo Merlose
Banned
Yeah, I came to post this. If they wanted, they could've made this more widespread with the PS3. Valve could've ported over their other coop-heavy games Left 4 Dead 1 and 2. In a perfect world, I suppose.
shinra-bansho
Member
Random thought - is it feasible to stream PS4 games to the PS3 base?
Microsoft remains to be convinced it seems.
MikeE21286
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I think it's a little of that, and a little bit of the fact that people expect to be able to play their games across all devices now.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Maybe kinda like WiiU, the game can be stored in the controller, but instead of playing on the controller itself, you can take it anywhere. I dunno, just spit-balling.
Whilst yet another separate platform would be totally Sony, it would be impractical and require even more development resources.
Anyway, by the sounds of it it will be at least PS3 software. Makes more sense to leverage content that is already there and already being developed than to start off on another new software platform.
Maybe about the Playstation. Haha.
Baconsammy
Banned
Basically Sony is going to do what Phil Harrison recently said Microsoft will be doing. I hope there's more to differentiate these two consoles in the future than exclusives.
Interfectum
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The not-so-distant future of all entertainment would like to have a word with you.
-Pyromaniac-
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you will still be able to. This is simply laying the foundation/future proofing. Next gen you'll still be able to buy all your games.
I asked the author about whether PS4 games would be on the cloud feature; he deferred to his earlier article.
@gofreak_ie We said in earlier story streaming service is designed to use current PS3 titles, new games on disks
Now, I assume new games will be on more than just disks - digital download is a no brainer - but for now I will give up ground on the idea of PS4 games being streamed
It's odd though, because PS3 would be the more difficult of the two platforms' content to accomodate, presumably...
@gofreak_ie We said in earlier story streaming service is designed to use current PS3 titles, new games on disks
Now, I assume new games will be on more than just disks - digital download is a no brainer - but for now I will give up ground on the idea of PS4 games being streamed
It's odd though, because PS3 would be the more difficult of the two platforms' content to accomodate, presumably...