MeisterLeder
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They never intended to have splitscreen... its not a hardware limitation
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Xbox E3 Conference 6/11 2pm PST
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They never intended to have splitscreen... its not a hardware limitation
Buttonbasher
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lol. We're talking about the timing for their conference. I think it's a mistake for them to do their scorpio announce before Sony's conference, so I said that.
2013 was not that long ago, they shouldn't risk repeating any aspect of that scenario.
Samurai G0SU
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What if they use a video like they did with dx12!? The masses would loove to see a slider showing them the difference! (Even if it isnt 100% accurate)
Believe
Rain City Gamer
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What games exactly? Taking the console warrior nonsense out of this, they really don't have a ton to show. If they have a reveal event, surely they will show Scorpio game footage right? Then what would they show at E3? More of the same games? wouldn't be as impactful that way, and would probably cause negative reaction from gamers.
This is the best and risk free scenario. Blend the unveil event with their E3 showcase. zero risk of a "weak E3" following reveal event which would kill momentum. This way they own news cycle for the day, they unveil Scorpio and any games will be "world Premier" type stuff on Scorpio. win/win.
Smart move by them.
SenjutsuSage
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Sounds pretty fucking personal lol. At any rate, so excited about this. Can't wait.
What if they use a video like they did with dx12!? The masses would loove to see a slider showing them the difference! (Even if it isnt 100% accurate)
Believe
if they choose to highlight actual graphical differences (better geometry, lighting, etc.) a slider would be a good way to do it. If they're pushing hard on the native 4k aspect, it will be really hard to get that across on a stream
Shil Pencer
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I think specs and capabilities of the scoprio will come out a few days before where at e3 instead of having to talk specs they will show off the actual system and games
SenjutsuSage
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Why?
Sangetsu-II
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daTRUballin
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JamesHolden
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I think arguments are stronger when you speak for yourself and don't impute your motives/desires to "most people" using words like "need" and implying that no one is excited about their platform.
digoutyoursoul
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Meh
Zero fucking hype for this team managing this brand these days, I knew they would show Scorpio here, have to fill time somehow.
I would be amazed but made up if they had the megatons but I can't see it. Having said that the ones who kiss Phils arse will love whatever they show and he listens to them so carry on Phil you can do no wrong in their eyes mate.
Zero fucking hype for this team managing this brand these days, I knew they would show Scorpio here, have to fill time somehow.
I would be amazed but made up if they had the megatons but I can't see it. Having said that the ones who kiss Phils arse will love whatever they show and he listens to them so carry on Phil you can do no wrong in their eyes mate.
DriftingSpirit
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I would like it earlier in the evening. It usually starts at 9PM and ends later in the night and it is difficult to go to sleep with all the info and reactions.
SenjutsuSage
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Microsoft should definitely spend a little time talking about some specs, they have to. No matter how you slice it, it's an important piece of information to provide in any true reveal because the new power and capability it will bring is a major part of the excitement as well.
It's this type of information, and the desire to know what's really under the hood, that has largely sustained the hype and excitement around the console for this long. So they should definitely provide a bit of extra information and detail regarding the raw specifications and the kind of tech at use, especially in cases where the revealing of said information would only add to the anticipation.
That can naturally include what kind of performance improvements and other things of relevance they've been noticing internally, and make sure to demonstrate it through videos. Hell, everything I just mentioned can be shown in a simple video along the same lines as the reveal video if they don't want to do so live at their presser. It will still get the message across.
It's this type of information, and the desire to know what's really under the hood, that has largely sustained the hype and excitement around the console for this long. So they should definitely provide a bit of extra information and detail regarding the raw specifications and the kind of tech at use, especially in cases where the revealing of said information would only add to the anticipation.
That can naturally include what kind of performance improvements and other things of relevance they've been noticing internally, and make sure to demonstrate it through videos. Hell, everything I just mentioned can be shown in a simple video along the same lines as the reveal video if they don't want to do so live at their presser. It will still get the message across.
Ricky Ricardo
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This current team managing Xbox one brought us backwards comparability and showed huge pro consumer pushes in that direction. I'm okay with how they're handling things. I'll be super happy if they stop ignoring Japanese games and throw some money around again to get those games as well.
Ok, i'll bite but honestly I really didn't think these comments would seem so crazy to people.
I think Microsoft has to announce price for Scorpio. I think doing so before Sony's pitch makes it too easy for them to counter the momentum their pitch creates.
Price it too high, Sony touts their large portfolio of 4k games and the fact that you can buy a Pro _right now_ for less money. Price Scorpio aggressively and Sony can counter with a price drop on the Pro the very next day, that again makes the Pro seem like a better value.
Either way Sony benefits because they know what they're up against.
If Sony goes first, they don't have what they need to know if they should announce a price drop on Pro or not. So they can't. They don't know price, they don't even know final specs of the device and what the first set of games for it look like. They don't have enough information. All they can really do is show their games, there is no opportunity to respond to what Microsoft has just announced. Given the stage, and the fact that the media is covering all this extensively, I think it matters.
Sure... that's definitely what you were thinking.
what do you think I was thinking exactly?
The last time I was this early... Something something.
Whew! MS continuing that Tier 1 UK support 😀.
Whew! MS continuing that Tier 1 UK support 😀.
That seems like a very reasonable prediction.
Wat??? The idea they can just decide on how 'low' they can go based what their competitor has previously just shown is silly. Things like prices are usually not decided within such little timeframe. Unless they already considered multiple prices that seems far fetched to think they can adjust how low they can go.
digoutyoursoul
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It's my honest opinion and isn't that what forums have? Opinions ?
digoutyoursoul
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And that's fine, I'm talking about the groovy gang who kiss the man's backside whatever he does.
BC is great but it shouldn't be at the forefront of your announcements for nearly a year considering a weak E3 in terms of new games announced. Scalebound was cancelled.
DriftingSpirit
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Sony has that advantage regardless because they launched a year early. That won't nullify Scorpio if MS nails it in other areas.
DagnastyEp
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Xbox has no announced titles beyond 2017. It's a choice in how they've gone about their game announcments. We don't even know if what's been announced is their full lineup for this year. Just because none of their 2018 and beyond games have been announced, doesn't mean they done exist. Sony on the other hand has chosen to announce titles that likely span a breadth of release dates from this year to potentially 2019.
I sense jealousy.
digoutyoursoul
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Jealous of what? I use the feature regularly.
JamesHolden
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Is there a line where you can kiss his backside at E3? I probably want to watch first before I commit to any kissing, but definitely interested.
They'll probably stay on Monday night. They've been doing their E3 conference live from movie theaters across the US for awhile now so I expect them to keep it up. Also it's a good time to give away stuff like a beta key for Destiny 2.
This is pretty much my expectations. Throw in a few more original Xbox remastered games and that's the show. Would be kind of a lack luster conference tbh unless Scorpio really brings the power and at a reasonable price to a degree that both would be surprising.
Given what little we know from insiders, I don't think MS will have any kind of surprises like Horizon E3 2015 or God of War E3 2016. So best not to get excited for any kind of left field large single player games.
digoutyoursoul
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Ha ha ha ha
VoodooProject
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And add most powerful console on the bottom. Lol
I mean Phil. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Jaguar Victory
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Let's goooooo! How you feeling about this Sting?
digoutyoursoul
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I see and are you speaking from personal experience or do you just tag anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion on a person as jealously?
That's a good point.
I do think though that they won't want to announce a price drop on Pro if they don't have to. Seeing the Scorpio's price beforehand gives them a valuable piece of information, and the opportunity to announce a price drop on E3 stage if need be, or skip it if they still feel good about their value prop against a higher-than-expected scorpio price.
I imagine Phil is taking the cancellation of Scalebound as a big sign of weakness. I'd imagine they feel like they still have a lot to prove. So I hope they work hard still. I'm happy they have been making moves for the better lately. I bought a PS4 at launch and an Xbox a couple years later but I feel like Sony is kind of just riding this gen out. I want more pressure on them.
You seem to post how people kiss Phil's ass. I just assumed jealousy. Sorry if that's not the case.
firehawk12
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How soon until everyone just moves all their press conferences before E3 and the entire event is 2 weeks long. lol
digoutyoursoul
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I hear you man.
What people are missing here is I did say I would be made up if they brought the megatons. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to like everything they do or hate on them all the time. I'm just passionate and when I don't think everything's great I'll say so. I've praised them plenty of times in the past.
I'm sure they can pull a CGI trailer of a non existent game out their arse in time for E3 but a game studio with something to show that is a surprise, I'm not convinced at all beyond what we know is in the pipeline unless they have secret game studios nobody knows about. Crackdown, Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Halo 6 isn't a bad line up at all but I doubt Halo 6 gets much beyond an announcement trailer. Sprinkle a few small games like Cuphead, Playdead tease, pack the rest with Scorpio and how it improves old stuff, Done. I just don't see anything else being a wow surprise that isn't a 3rd party debut.
Give it 1 or 2 years.
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