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Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Thread: Everyone wants it, no one uses it
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No, I want you to explain to me exactly what you mean, because the only thing I'm doing "on purpose" is saying literally exactly what I mean.
It's astonishing to me that people are complaining about the ability for 360 owners of Call of Duty: Ghosts to play the game they already own on their Xbox One, instead of forcing those people to buy the Xbox One version of the game.
What you're suggesting in your previous post is just as confusing to me:
After so many complaints across so many pages of this thread where people accuse the Xbox team (without evidence) of deliberately holding back BC releases for marketing purposes, here you're suggesting that the Xbox team do exactly that very thing - basically that they should have delayed the AC: Brotherhood release for the optics of spreading out what some might consider a more "worthwhile" release.
No one complained when Borderlands and Bioshock became BC despite having X1 versions playable. Call of Duty Ghosts is a very specific case in which the vast majority already had a way to upgrade their 360 version to a X1 one
And i'm sure no one sensible would blame microsoft for "HOLDING" (such a hyperbolic word for this case) Brotherhood for two days and making it a thursday instead of a tuesday annoucement. Stop being so dramatic.
Yep storm in a teacup. I'm bummed that one of my desired games (Vesperia, Fable...) didn't get added but there will be plenty of other people happy with this news. My priority is game preservation but MS need to add the popular games too even if they also have current gen versions.
While Ghosts is questionable due to the existence of the X1 version, at least they are giving you the more important thing, which is options.
Ironically, you get arguably the best console version of Ghosts with the 360 version, if you don't care about graphics that much. Reasons are because Ghosts on 360:
- Has a rock solid framerate across the board. X1 version has some framerate issues, although mostly minor.
- Higher player count due to majority of players having bought Ghosts on 360 back then and likely never bothered to upgrade.
The only thing you lose out on 360 is slightly worse graphics (600p vs 720p, X1 version has better explosions and other alpha effects) and Ground War playlist due to last gen versions being 12 player max versus next gen versions having 18 max.
Ironically, you get arguably the best console version of Ghosts with the 360 version, if you don't care about graphics that much. Reasons are because Ghosts on 360:
- Has a rock solid framerate across the board. X1 version has some framerate issues, although mostly minor.
- Higher player count due to majority of players having bought Ghosts on 360 back then and likely never bothered to upgrade.
The only thing you lose out on 360 is slightly worse graphics (600p vs 720p, X1 version has better explosions and other alpha effects) and Ground War playlist due to last gen versions being 12 player max versus next gen versions having 18 max.
I'm not being "dramatic" here. I'm being very confused.
I simply do not understand either of these two things:
1) Why are people mad that Ghosts is backward compatible
2) Why do you think Brotherhood should have been delayed from Tuesday to Thursday
WhiteRabbitEXE
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If BC support for a title doesn't specifically benefit you, it shouldn't happen at all. Basically.
Wtf?? I expected people here to be praising Activision for making Ghosts BC
Telling them not to make Ghosts BC is like saying to people "fuck you, buy the game again". That's not right and completely defeats the whole point of BC.
Activision gets my thumbs up for allowing it to happen. I mean it's one thing to be disappointed because the game is hot garbage, but disappointed cause there's an XB1 version? That's just silly.
The vast majority?? I'm going to assume there was a digital upgrade program and that's what you're referring to, digital isn't even a majority now nevermind a vast majority in 2013. Perhaps you meant a tiny minority.
Telling them not to make Ghosts BC is like saying to people "fuck you, buy the game again". That's not right and completely defeats the whole point of BC.
Activision gets my thumbs up for allowing it to happen. I mean it's one thing to be disappointed because the game is hot garbage, but disappointed cause there's an XB1 version? That's just silly.
The vast majority?? I'm going to assume there was a digital upgrade program and that's what you're referring to, digital isn't even a majority now nevermind a vast majority in 2013. Perhaps you meant a tiny minority.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
People complain every time:
- a cross-gen game is made BC (what a waste, it's already on the console!)
- a CoD game is made BC (ugh, can't we get something better than this CoD garbage?)
- a game they don't specifically want is made BC (but what about _____?!)
This is the middle of the three-way Venn diagram for a good chunk of folks.
muzzymate
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Since Modern Warfare remastered is about to become a standalone $40 product, I would imagine not for awhile until the sales of the remastered version dry up.
Ya I know but a guy can dream. Who knows, maybe 3 and a half years from now it will...
As well, Ghosts was a low point for the series among critics and fans. There probably aren't a lot of people rushing out to buy Ghosts on either platform (though you should, the Extinction mode is a lot of fun!), but if this were Black Ops 3 or Mordern Warfare, I think Activision would be a bit more hesitant to give Microsoft the green light.
I dont understand it either. I was ecstatic when the Bioshock games became BC even tho the remasters were already available because I refused to rebuy games I already own. So I see this as an opportunity for those that didn't get the One version to finally get to play it on their console.
The Pet of the Month
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Agreed, my initial reaction was admittedly a bit shortsighted, but this is really good. I personally want every game possible on the program.
Backlogger
Member
Yep, I'd rather have regular announcements of games I don't care about than nothing at all.
Ghosts had a great SP campaign also, its not like its a garbage dump game.
MaulerX
Member
Yep! I need this really bad. Lol. My wife and I have spent countless hours battling each other in the wee hours of the morning and it's literally the one game she calls out as wanting to play on XBO.
ResidentDante
Member
This. I'm happy they're making games BC again after a long hiatus.
Agreed
Great! Gotta respect every purchase people made. Plus, you never know if the BC version might add something new to the table like somebody pointed out a few posts earlier.
Don't understand it either.
I also hope they bring every old EA sports title to the BC programme over time.
I just want every game to work once they are finished (and I know this will not happen)
Wait a minute! So the bad rap the game got was for the multiplayer component?
Because I steered clear of it thinking I wouldn't enjoy the campaign. I've only barely touched mp in CoD, and I think the MW2 campaign is fantastic and alone worth the price of admission.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Are people seriously getting mad at the Ghosts announce?
Oooook.
Oooook.
I still don't understand why?
People throw their toys out the pram at anything these days
21st century truly is the age of the self entitled rant brigade
RiggityRice
Member
I for one was not angry that COD:Ghosts is made BC, I was mad at the fact there was only one game announced on Thursday. Bunch of horseshit, I say... I gotta keep reminding myself not to get my hopes up.
I think it's awesome that they are making games like Ghosts BC. It's a super consumer friendly move. Buying a game once needs to be industry standard.
I haven't cared about COD in awhile, but if I got on a COD kick for some reason, it's great that I'd have the option of finding a $5 used copy of the 360 version in an EB bargain bin if I just wanted to give the campaign a try.
I haven't cared about COD in awhile, but if I got on a COD kick for some reason, it's great that I'd have the option of finding a $5 used copy of the 360 version in an EB bargain bin if I just wanted to give the campaign a try.
MilkyJoe
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The way i see it is they are doing something that we are not paying anything more for and 99% of us still have a 360 ot play it on, so if we really must play an old game we can. Just wait it out, it's really no big deal.
Backlogger
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Wait a minute! So the bad rap the game got was for the multiplayer component?
I think it was because you can get the game for Xbox One already that some people didn't like it. I don't really know the real reason. People are always mad on the internet
I don't mean bad rap as in the negativity around the bc announcement, I mean the bad rap the game itself got when it came out. I heard a lot of people say it was the worst CoD by far.
But I don't care about CoD mp, personally, so the only reason I had for skipping the game was that I thought people were dissing the campaign.
For racing (and other) games where the issue is the licensed soundtrack rather than the cars or whatever, I wonder if they have considered just taking the music out and releasing it like that. For racing games at least, I am sure I am not alone in regularly turning off the music anyway so that you just hear the car sounds.
Wait a minute! So the bad rap the game got was for the multiplayer component?
I think the campaign was really bad but multi and extinction were good.
The Pet of the Month
Member
Ghosts campaign is still terrible, but it's saved from being remembered as the worst because Black Ops III's campaign is a crime to the series itself.
Source: I replayed Ghosts yesterday
Ghost's campaign wasn't all that bad, at least from I remember. It is somewhat of an entertaining father and son story if you turn your brain off.
But Black Ops 3? Talk about going from having one of the best campaign lines in the series (BO and especially Blops 2) to flat out garbage.
Like I don't even know how you can mess up that badly.
I'll give Ghosts credit for... attempting to do the story on family, but I feel like there's something up when you can't even match MW3's mediocre campaign and story.
But Black Ops III? Talk about being up your own ass. I am complete alignment with you. To go from II to III is shocking. What were they thinking?
outrun is because of th Ferrari license
The Pet of the Month
Member
I'll admit, I found both MW3 and Ghosts forgettable, I just remember enjoying the setpieces a bit more in Ghosts. Either way, I can agree with you there.
And yeah, not sure what happened with Black Ops 3. I could've sworn it was written by the same writer who did the last Black Ops. Did he have writer's block? Did he have to rewrite the script in a month? I mean, it sounds like I'm overreacting here, but when I finished the campaign I was left flabbergasted.
Kacho
Member
I thought Ghosts campaign was great. Good pacing and kept me engaged the whole way through. The ending cliffhanger was interesting as well. Shame we'll never see what happens.
The multiplayer will forever be the worst of the series. Everything just felt off and the killstreaks were so boring.
The multiplayer will forever be the worst of the series. Everything just felt off and the killstreaks were so boring.
The Pet of the Month
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For all intents and purposes, I do like Goyer's writing
I think Blundell should try again, but make sure the narrative makes sense before trying to have an underlying plot line that never really connects to anything.
turns out he had a hand in Man of Steel so I don't know about that
I think Blundell should try again, but make sure the narrative makes sense before trying to have an underlying plot line that never really connects to anything.
Blundell is now a co-head of Treyarch, so I don't think he'll be writing the next gig.
That said, he should've just been isolated to the zombies story, where it's just as nuts but there's levity and some self-awareness along with characters that are actually fun to be around.
That said, he should've just been isolated to the zombies story, where it's just as nuts but there's levity and some self-awareness along with characters that are actually fun to be around.
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