SEGAvangelist
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Not really. 4K TVs already upscale to 4K when accepting a 1080p signal. In this case the Xbox One S will just do the scaling instead.
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Xbox One S Thread: The S is for Sexy
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Not really. 4K TVs already upscale to 4K when accepting a 1080p signal. In this case the Xbox One S will just do the scaling instead.
Pretty significant, the bumpers are significantly better, the 3.5mm jack could come in handy. The S controller also has Bluetooth, so another improvement. The extra $20 is easily worth it.
Doooooo eeeeeeet.
I got ~$300 for my Kinect bundle from EB and only gotta add $150 to get the S ^.^
It will look 99.99% the same as 1080p on a 1080p TV.
Ascenion
Member
I'm trying to pick up a new TV today. Honestly HDR10 seems like the safest bet. It's got the support. Based on that article all Blu-Ray discs and players gotta go HDR10 so if anything Dolby vision would be a bonus and the TV would support both.
Edit:
To bounce off this, a lot of people think the resolution the TV displays should be 2160p or it isn't being up scaled. That isn't true, the TV only displays the signal it's receiving not necessarily what it displays depending on the model. Since the S does the upscaling itself then theoretically it should always be labeled as 2160p on the TV.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I like the smaller depth now wish the Neo to be like that.
I really hate touch sensitive buttons, I don't know they anyone insists on using them
MaximusPayne
Member
Does the upscalers on 4k tvs not produce significant lag when playing games, though?
family_guy
Member
Not really. Should help with lag. Also remember that many Xbox One games aren't full 1080p. Scaling from those weird sub-1080p resolutions is not as clean as upscaling from 1080p.
Impulsor
Member
Not that I've noticed.
Caayn
Member
Fun facts:
Kinect with the separate adapter uses 15w.
XB1 Halo 5 edition:
Boot-up time 1m5s.
Internal: Halo 5 loading mission Guardians 21s.
External: Forza Horizon 2 start screen to ingame 54s.
XB1 S:
Xbox One S boot-up time 57s.
Internal: Halo 5 loading mission Guardians 20s.
External: Forza Horizon 2 start screen to ingame 37s.
TVs that support Dolby Vision can from a technical viewpoint automatically support HDR10, thus practically all Dolby Vision capable TV's you see also support HDR10. Either at launch or at a later date with a firmware update.
I prefer to have the XB1 S do the upscaling. So that sub-1080p content doesn't get upscaled twice. (Once to 1080p and the second time to 4K).
Kinect with the separate adapter uses 15w.
XB1 Halo 5 edition:
Boot-up time 1m5s.
Internal: Halo 5 loading mission Guardians 21s.
External: Forza Horizon 2 start screen to ingame 54s.
XB1 S:
Xbox One S boot-up time 57s.
Internal: Halo 5 loading mission Guardians 20s.
External: Forza Horizon 2 start screen to ingame 37s.
Xbox One S uses HDR10, just like the vast majority of the entertainment industry.
TVs that support Dolby Vision can from a technical viewpoint automatically support HDR10, thus practically all Dolby Vision capable TV's you see also support HDR10. Either at launch or at a later date with a firmware update.
Correct, it'll upscale any non-4K content to 4K if you enable that option.
I prefer to have the XB1 S do the upscaling. So that sub-1080p content doesn't get upscaled twice. (Once to 1080p and the second time to 4K).
That difference in the external loading times is very interesting - what would cause this? Any chance you can do further testing?
electric turd
Banned
What HDR movies have you tried?
Impulsor
Member
Mad max, star trek into darkness and now watching till the end batman vs superman ultimate edition.
The best looking one of those three was mad max since it's the most colorful.
Some. Pictures I took with my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge in hdr mode.
http://imgur.com/a/2CpUg
People should still try both upscalers because they potentially differ a lot in quality.
Caayn
Member
Last one.
XB1 H5 edition:
Ryse Son of Rome Pax Romana 1m 5s.
Quantum Break Act 1 Part 3 1m 40s First time.
Quantum Break Act 1 Part 3 41s Secondtime.
XB1 S:
Ryse Son of Rome Pax Romana 1m
Quantum Break Act 1 Part 3 1m34s First time.
Quantum Break Act 1 Part 3 39s Second time.
This is compared to a V2 controller. And the backgrip of course which feels nice.
MaximusPayne
Member
So just checking. My Vizio 4k tv now plays my OG X1 games with game mode on which I've heard turns the Vizio upscaler off to reduce lag. The question is with the output of the One S, would having game mode on matter now since the console will be doing the upscaling?
I dont get too much about this problem, I dont have a 4k tv, will I have problems setting up my XBOX S, I have regular LED TV and a LED 24 inch monitor, would I have problem because of this?
DJ Lushious
Member
Same here. I've been waiting to play Ori for a long time. I picked it up during the most recent sale and I've already told myself Ori is going to be the first game I beat on the system.
Whoever told you this is horribly msinformed. Game Mode removes all additional extraneous processing (DNR filtering, motion enhancement, etc.), but does not prevent the HDTV from upscaling.
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG if they increased the resistance a little bit, that would be really fantastic. The regular sticks are juuuuuuuuuuust a tiny little bit too loose.
Mixolydian
Member
HUH? I either need to catch up on trade in values, or I'm missing a vital piece of info from your post because I have the same bundle, and thought $200 was the limit (time-limited to a particular retailer in the US, which I missed of course) for trade in.
No we're both Canadian, that's our trade in value.
Mixolydian
Member
Oh ok. The $450 didn't strike me as odd because I figured you were referring to the GoW edition.
mohsinkhan
Member
What do I got to do to my xbox one (orginal 500 gb with Kinect) to trade it in? I want to make sure my credit card informaition is not on it anymore.
Diablohead
Member
It could be the difference between a used and new controller, being a little firmer on the new pad.
Maybe, personally I've never had that happen to me on Xbox One controllers, the sticks getting looser with usage. Caayn looks like he takes good care of his electronics, too.
MaximusPayne
Member
Wow. That is definitely good to know. So it still would be a a good idea to leave the setting on when playing games on the One S.
What kind of Blu-rays?
Movies and tv shows that I own on Blu-Ray.
So 1080p Blu-rays? Yes.
4K Blu-rays will render natively.
I would leave it on, you will still have the TV processing everything for image qualtiy rather than low latency if you turn it off.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Based Caayn! Finally. Thanks for doing this so quick.
The figures are nice and low for both but I'm confused by what they're telling me. A 25W reduction in-game suggests a 20nm shrink to me? I know it isn't apples to apples but the PS4 reduced power by up to 30W for games whilst on the same 28nm process between the launch and CUH-1200 model.
Hopefully iFixit/Chipworks tear one down in a few days. Or Microsoft could just say.....
Colbert
Banned
Nothing has changed compared to the OG Xbox One regarding 1080p TVs and Monitors. If there was no issue before there is no issue now!
Hilarious! LOL! Not possible anymore with a physical button
Colbert
Banned
Proelite
Member
Mike Ybarra already said on Discord that the SOC was shrinked.
I don't believe him yet. Xbox execs have made mistakes with technical stuff before.
I'll wait until a tear down. 20nm shrink is a waste of money.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Ugh...you guys are really tempting to get this thing and I don't even have a 4K TV yet (planning on picking up one later this year).
Damn you all!
Colbert
Banned
Who said to you its 20nm? Does AMD even have a 20nm process?
MaximusPayne
Member
So it's confirmed the S is outputting games in 2160p now?
was there today and was told they might get 2 that are not preordered. to get there when they open.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Mike Ybarra already said on Discord that the SOC was shrinked.
Yes, I saw that but it doesn't say to what and I missed what the question was.I asked the question myself while Mike Ybarra was posting and the question was ignored while he answered others.
Colbert
Banned
It was an answer to a question about the Xbox One S. Unfortunately I did not capture the question and I am now to lazy to find it again.