SpecialAgentZ
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Your are at least 20 years late, dude. Nothing new here. It's the reason I give 0 fucks to internet "gamers"/"influencers" (stupid word).
How many followers / sheep has that iJustine woman got? Ask herwhy do people actually care what influencers think and say.
True, but my point was that MS execs spend far time with the community than Sony does. TO be fair, talking to the community is not a bad thing and my posts stated that it wouldn't hurt Sony to do a LITTLE more in that area.But no one heard of, or knew about, these guys from the OP before this topic either ...
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:But no one heard of, or knew about, these guys from the OP before this topic either ...
Love these kind of threads, you already know who is in there before klicking.
I always thought influencers are people who can’t get real jobs.
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:
The person at the back.
No I guess YOU didn't read the post YOU just responded to so I will TYPE it again in a BIGGER FONT so you will get the hint:
Are they employed by Sony? Are they executives?
Again, it is straight up false to say that Sony engages with the community at a level anywhere REMOTELY close to what Xbox does. People know who Phil Spencer, Aaron Greenberg, Major Nelson are. I say that it would do Sony some good to get a figurehead that is more likeable like Jack Tretton or "Kevin Butler."
Aside from Jim Ryan who is else spends a ton of time doing podcasts, going on shows? Herman Hulst and Neil Druckmann send out the occasional tweet, but they're more about promoting their own games.
SO I will say it again:
It is absolutely FALSE to say that Sony engages in PR/social media/community at a level anywhere remotely close to the level of MS and your counter-evidence to that is mentioning a blog/podcast called Initiative something something with some dude named Eric that I (and probably most of GAF) have never heard of?
That's cute. Keep it up.
These two shills remain a black mark on Last Stand Media, an endeavor which started on the premise of independence, free from the grasp of these brands. It’s a shame that for their Xbox podcast they had to rely on these two, but maybe you can’t get anybody for a Xbox focused podcast that isn’t a shill working for the brand.
Are you mad, do you not remember the army of bot accounts telling everyone that the Wii U was the best console ever and that the PS Vita was a huge success?This is what the Xbox shills keep saying. Yet it's only Xbox seems to do it
But no one heard of, or knew about, these guys from the OP before this topic either ...
Jog my memory?
Seems like you're more familiar with these podcasters and their work than I am.
don’t bother, adamsapple is just obfuscating, I don’t believe for a second he’s never heard of Matty and Cog beforeBro..... Cog has a direct line to Phil. He mentioned talking to him after the Kinda Funny XCast interview that Phil had. He told him that he can't say stuff like that. He knows all the Xbox top brass.
Ladies and gentleman. This is how you know I was right and he has no response.That’s a lot of words to say “I don’t know.”
don’t bother, adamsapple is just obfuscating, I don’t believe for a second he’s never heard of Matty and Cog before
Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
Game developers/publishers reach out to outlets and creators of varying sizes to update information regarding their games. Prices, content changes, dates, etc.
might explain why so many of the usual suspects were ready to blame PlayStation for Xbox raising prices just like the rest of the industry has done (which wasn’t started by PlayStation either though they always seem to forget that fact, it was actually ABK & Take Two IIRC)His exact words:
‘When they announced they were going to do $70 games remember they reached out to you, people like me, so on and so on like ‘hey by the way we’re just doing this, right?’ - trying to prepare people for what could be blowback, right?
Emphasis mine.
Why would a neutral journalist need to be prepared for blow back against Xbox?
That doesn’t make a jot of sense.
Have sexLadies and gentleman. This is how you know I was right and he has no response.
Thank you sir.
They were trying to portray how smart Microsoft is (part of their shilling task-list), but it all backfired.Astroturfing and shilling at its finest. I'm surprised they would admit this in public though
It's been painfully obvious for a while that MS tells influencers and their fanboys to damage control for them.
Briefing journalists who will report on your story is one thing, using social media brand shills to brainwash is another.
Learn the difference.
So why drop early info on them in the first place do you think? The reason is that they know those specific people are hard wired to spin things positively towards xbox in creative ways. So they use those people to influence others with the bad news by making it seem not so bad or somebody elses fault.Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
Nice try, but he is not gonna have sex with you.Have sex
Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
I agree with you which is why no one should watch corporate news be it cable, gaming related, etc.Anything. Show the emails of MS telling them to brace for bad news. Record some audio of MS reps saying that. How about these people do, I don't know, some basic fucking journalism when breaking a story, because this dropping of a 30 second sound bite with zero evidence behind it isn't going to cut it. What's that saying again - "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"?
SOny has not given us BC yet. They need to.Is Ms learning from Sony? Because when it comes to damage control your fans are masters. Just look at the speech against PC games, backwards compatibility, services, day one games when MS started making them and then when Sony started to imitate them.
It is interesting to see how speech and acceptance changes depending on who is speaking.
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:
The person at the back.
People are acting like this is the CCP running a disinfo campaign. It’s marketing.
If this is the kind of shit that gets you worked up, typing walls of text, editing fonts - you need to get real problems.
The influencer angle was ‘Sony started this’ and ‘Just buy GamePass to avoid it anyway’. It was well rehearsed.I don't get the video. The example he used was 70 dollar games. How could you not use whataboutism? Games are 70 dollars now, lol.
Because their podcasts rarely, if ever, talk about actual games. It's a contest about who is closer to Phil Spencer and XBOX. Or telling people to "Wait." These guys don't even have gamer scores to speak of.
For real. It's like a fly trap.
They'll eventually catch up with your alternative lifestyle.Joined Jun 28, 2023
Cultists."Amazing and deeply emotional"
"Thank you for being such a positive creative force in my life and for the Xbox community."
"Always"
Seriously, who eats up this PR shit ?
And yet you, as someone who typically craps on Xbox here, routinely listen to their podcast? And actively monitor their gamer scores? That’s not weird at all.
When I listened to the podcast, they certainly talked about a lot of games.