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[DragonSworne]

I could see Power7 with 4 cores with 4 threads each, that already exists.

16 core CPU with any amount of cores is riduculous.

 

[Perkel]

Traditonally I would say IBM would be the best because of PPC but Intel has surpassed them in almost every aspect

What aspect ?

 

[KageMaru]

As much as I believe 16 cores is too much, 4 cores would be just as surprising. The truth must be in the middle.

If each core has 4 threads, 4 cores would be ok IMO.

 

[DragonSworne]

Will going with Power7 be helpful for backward compatibility?

 

[Raide]

Can it run Crisis?

1 Crysis per AwesomeCore.

 

[theBishop]

Not really true. There are plenty of advances to be made in both hardware and software. As far as processor design goes there isn't a lot of room for evolutionary growth but there is plenty of room for revolutionary growth.

With an effective resolution cap of 1080p they don't need any advances in ?PU over what is currently available. What they need is what they've always needed, better software. As one of the early posters joked, for all the hardware advances we've seen AI never seems to get significantly better. There are exceptions to this, but the simple fact that they are indeed exceptions shows that it isn't a hardware problem.

Screen resolution has very little bearing on now CPU designs will evolve going forward. High-end processing is mainly about servers processing massive data pools in parallel.

What we've been seeing since the beginning of game consoles is more and more unification around a handful of architectures, designed for a wide variety of purposes. There's even less variety in GPU design.

There's a pretty good possibility that Cell will be the last architecture specifically customized for a game console, and even that had PowerPC at its core. For all the handwinging at the beginning of this generation about the "exotic" Cell architecture, it's far more like a PC CPU than PS2's Emotion Engine. By comparison, last generation Xbox used a P3-era Celeron and Gamecube used a G3 comparable to what Apple was shipping.

 

[WrikaWrek]

If each core has 4 threads, 4 cores would be ok IMO.

The console is coming at the end of 2013. MS has been working with IBM and Global Foundry for quite awhile now, and has invested quite a bit of money.

All to come up with a 4 core PPC? Really?

 

[Proelite]

Single thread performance x number of threads is the more accurate measure of CPU power.

 

[Black-Box]

How legit is Xbox World magazine?

yet they still say the PS4 will be better?

 

[BigTnaples]

Too good to be true.


But if it was true, I would be a very happy gamer.

 

[aeroslash]

4 cores and 4 threads it's the first thing that has come to mind when i've seen the thread.

 

[theBishop]

Single thread performance x number of threads is the more accurate measure of CPU power.

Not really relevant, is it? 16 cores with one thread each will smoke 8 cores with 2 threads each if everything else is equal.

 

[DieH@rd]

Putting all rumors together is looks like they a using 2 SOC. http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/25619-oban-initial-product-run-is-real

So you get 2x 8 core CPU with 7000 built at 32nm.

2Gb per soc for 4GB total ram

You get 16 cores and dual gpu

That's old news from Charlie [SemiAccurate]

 

[onQ123]

yet they still say the PS4 will be better?

no they didn't! they said "developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox"

 

[Quicksilver4648]

16 cores? What is the next Xbox, a game console or a rendering farm for films?

 

[dragonelite]

16 cores? What is the next Xbox, a game console or a rendering farm for films?

dat avatar quality....

 

[Emitan]

16 cores? What is the next Xbox, a game console or a rendering farm for films?

It can finally have Uncharted!

 

[TheOddOne]

dat avatar quality....

Dammit beat me to the joke

 

[theBishop]

It can finally have Uncharted!

+1



Just imagine what Platinum Games would do with UC3's technology on a next-gen platform. You could have Vanquish shootouts on top (or inside of) collapsing buildings. Rocket-sliding between a fleet of Navy battleships. Who knows. It's going to be ridiculous and wonderful.

 

[Anth0ny]

stronger than current gaming pcs?

right.

 

[Proelite]

dat avatar quality....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...he-next-xbox-can-render-avatar-like-graphics/

 

[WrikaWrek]

stronger than current gaming pcs?

right.

Would it be that surprising that a console launching late 2013 was stronger than PC tech launched 2 years before?

 

[Tarin02543]

How will all of this be cooled? One loud annoying fan or multiple less louder smaller fans?

 

[RoyalFool]

16 cores? Jesus, you'd really have to base your games around the fact it has 16 cores in order to get any sort of efficiency out of it, it's hard enough getting a modern game engine using 4 cores to a decent extent, let alone 4x that.

 

[Black-Box]

no they didn't! they said "developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox"

ya, your right, but it still means something that they would even mention that, if it was a biased/fake article, they wouldn't mention that

 

[Pie and Beans]

I love all this talk of a bundle of cores, processors, doubling up on GPU's and more, and yet few if any beyond Sony's studios got creative with the PS3's offerings in that respect.

 

[Maximilian E.]

Maybe not a wrong rumour.. I remember something that MS wanted to have a 10-20 cores or something similar, for the 360..

 

[Thunder Monkey]

So it's likely a 4 core 16 threaded variant of the Power7 series?

Cool. That should be a tidy quiet CPU.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You turn that bitch on in the winter when the heater is on the fritz

 

[Mrbob]

So it's likely a 4 core 16 threaded variant of the Power7 series?

Cool. That should be a tidy quiet CPU.

Seems likely. I'm guessing the leaker in the OP is not a tech person and misunderstood.

 

[DieH@rd]

So it's likely a 4 core 16 threaded variant of the Power7 series?

Cool. That should be a tidy quiet CPU.

That is a massive cpu (567 mm2 @ 45nm), but on the other hand is crazily fast. 1 of its core core [4 threads] is by some estimates as fast as entire x360 CPU.

 

[Always-honest]

I hope they make it as powerfull as possible.

They'll sell at a loss. They don't care.

 

[DR3AM]

PS4 17 cores confirmed.

 

[Brera]

Is this like the SNES? It had 8bits but acted like it had 16bits but it wasn't a true 16bit like the MegaDrive and thus inferior?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

That is a massive cpu (567 mm2 @ 45nm), but on the other hand is crazily fast. 1 of its core core [4 threads] is by some estimates as fast as entire x360 CPU.

Yes, massive CPU. Though I'm sure by dropping unnecessary transistors and on a smaller wafer you'd get it into the manageable arena. Honestly though... 4core Power7 variant is the only thing that would make sense for this rumor.

 

[dragonelite]

Is this like the SNES? It had 8bits but acted like it had 16bits but it wasn't a true 16bit like the MegaDrive and thus inferior?

Nope probably a dev that said cores instead of threads so the journo isn't confused.
I because with threads he has to see if they are hardware threads or software threads.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Is this like the SNES? It had 8bits but acted like it had 16bits but it wasn't a true 16bit like the MegaDrive and thus inferior?

You're thinking of TurboGrafx-16, SNES was a true 16-bit machine.

 

[Limanima]

True or not I don't care, E3 can't come soon enough!!

 

[eso76]

stronger than current gaming pcs?

right.

considering it's not launching for another 18 months that's not unbelievable, plus Microsoft might want their next console to last even longer than the x360 and is not afraid of losing significant amounts of money at first, seeing how popular and profitable their console has been in its late years.
Maybe they exactly want to extend their console's third age.

 

[KageMaru]

That is a massive cpu (567 mm2 @ 45nm), but on the other hand is crazily fast. 1 of its core core [4 threads] is by some estimates as fast as entire x360 CPU.

This is a good point as well, even if they cut off the fat from the Power 7, it's likely to still be a huge chip (relatively speaking).

 

[SapientWolf]

It’s a ridiculous amount of power for a games machine – too much power, even.

No one console should have all that power.

 

[Projectjustice]

This brings me back to my childhood with the 16bit wars. I cant wait for E3.

 

[Door2Dawn]

This brings me back to my childhood with the 16bit wars. I cant wait for E3.

... next year

 

[Shikoro]

More likely 16 threads [4 cores with 4 threads each]. Power7 supports that without a problem.

That would make a lot more sense compared to this.

Don't fret when the console rumors start to bore, they will promptly add another core.

Nice, that also rhymed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_A2

16 cores 64 threads, running at ~ 50 watts is totally reasonable.

lol

Goodness!

So you have $1000 to spend? How many jobs do you have?

Needs at least 2GB of RAM per core, AT LEAST.

Hahaha, no...

1 Crysis per AwesomeCore.

I lol'd

 

[neenja_jenkins]

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I couldn't have said it any better.
Where do people get this crap?

 

[Manmademan]

Is this like the SNES? It had 8bits but acted like it had 16bits but it wasn't a true 16bit like the MegaDrive and thus inferior?

wow, you're ridiculously misinformed here.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Sounds highly unlikely, but I do wish it was true. It would allow for some amazing physics in games.

 

[Glorified G]

So you have $1000 to spend? How many jobs do you have?

While we're here. Do you know how much the Wii-U & ps4 will cost?

 

[IOnEI Falcon]

How legit is Xbox World magazine?

Legit enough to get exclusive pictures of GE XBLA.

 

[Doffen]

So you have $1000 to spend? How many jobs do you have?

Please explain why the Xbox 360 would cost 1000 dollars in the US? It’s pretty much a given that it will cost that much in my country, but please do tell.