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XSEED announces Ys I & II Chronicles+ for Steam (Details)

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bishopcruz

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Sara said:
There's something like that included with Complete as a separate EXE; the Eternal opening, I think?
We're looking into porting it over to Chronicles+ but it won't be in at launch.
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That version doesn't actually have the "Theme of Adol" in it though, much to my chagrin. It is a cool little extra though, hope you can get it working.

As for the the intro with Theme of Adol, no official one exists. On one of the early releases of the game (CD version of complete) they do have a WAV file of an unused early music track for the opening of the game that DOES have that theme though.It's an interesting bit of trivia, but honestly doesn't fit the opening as nicely as the final version does. Still more "Theme of Adol" is always good. I spliced the audio over the video and popped it on youtube a few years back.

http://youtu.be/g7zAtNIA7YY
 
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Femmeworth

Banned
Cool, I'll probably get this eventually. Was it Ys Origin or Ys: The Oath in Felghana that was lacking content from the PSP versions?
 
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~ZIO~

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Is this a good thing? Should I get these games? I have had very little experience with the Ys franchise. The only one I've played (and little of) was, I think, the third one for the SNES. What I played was fun, but I never got through it because I got distracted and forgot about it.
 
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bede-x

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Have played these on other formats previously, but will support them on Steam as well. I hope they are fully joypad compatible(none of those weird button positions from Felghana or requiring digital games to use the analog stick like is often the case).
 
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Eusis

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~ZIO~ said:
Is this a good thing? Should I get these games? I have had very little experience with the Ys franchise. The only one I've played (and little of) was, I think, the third one for the SNES. What I played was fun, but I never got through it because I got distracted and forgot about it.
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If you want to start from the beginning, this is an updated take on that start, but it's only been marginally modernized, and by late 90s standards at that.

If you want to get back in through familiar ground play Ys: Oath in Felghana. It's a remake of Ys III, the game you played on SNES, and is one of the hugest improvements (possibly THE hugest) over the original game ever. They're not narratively tied, just that Ys I shows how Adol met Dogi, and that basically boils down to
Dogi knocking down a wall to a jail cell in Dahm Tower, freeing Adol in Ys I, then appearing in the ending of Ys II. That's it.
 
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wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
~ZIO~ said:
Is this a good thing? Should I get these games? I have had very little experience with the Ys franchise. The only one I've played (and little of) was, I think, the third one for the SNES. What I played was fun, but I never got through it because I got distracted and forgot about it.
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Wow, old-school!

I'd say you're probably better off starting with one of the newer Ys titles, as they tend to be much more approachable to outsiders -- it makes sense logically to start with Ys I & II, of course, but both games (particularly Ys I) are very much products of their time, and are thus filled with obtuse puzzles (we're talking full-on '80s-style here!), maze-like dungeons and chaotic combat. Not that any of these are bad things, mind you! But it's hard to go from modern game design to these more classic tropes without having a prior connection to the series. That's why I'd recommend starting with a later game, familiarizing yourself with the series as a whole, THEN playing Ys I & II. You'll get a lot more out of it that way, and appreciate the games a lot more in the overall context of Ys.

I generally recommend people start with either Ys Seven or Ys: The Oath in Felghana. If you're not used to "NES hard" and would prefer to really "ease" your way into the series (pun intended!), go with Ys Seven; whereas if you want something that'll crush your skull like a melon under its fiery talons without a second thought, Felghana's your best bet.

Ys Origin is also a nice compromise if you're a stickler for chronology, since it is technically the earliest point in the timeline and has exceptionally polished gameplay (and possibly the best STORY in all of Ys). It's not the greatest indication of the overall series history, however, since neither of the mainstay protagonists (Adol and Dogi) even appear in it, save for as an arena mode or boss rush cameo.

You lie sir! You call her Reah! That automatically makes it worse. ;P And no, I will never forgive you for that. I'll take the bitterness to my grave.
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Hey, it's better than naming her after a beasts' dwelling. ;)

I'd like to get a proper Xanadu Next release, a Zwei!! game, or two? Yeah, I get it, not going to happen any time soon.. =(
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Maybe not anytime soon, but I keep pushing for them! Xanadu Next is still possibly my favorite Falcom game of all time, and Zwei II is up there as well. Really, REALLY good games!

I'd like to see Dinosaur Resurrection after hearing this:
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You think that's good? Listen to this!

Freakin' love that game. And soundtrack.

-Tom
 
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Aeana

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bishopcruz said:
You lie sir! You call her Reah! That automatically makes it worse. ;P And no, I will never forgive you for that. I'll take the bitterness to my grave.
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Reah is a crapton better than "Lair," which I absolutely despise. I was SO happy to see Falcom FINALLY adopt Reah in the Japanese version of Ys Origin. Obviously Leah looks nicer, but Reah is a bit more unique.
 
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~ZIO~

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Well, I appreciate the advice. I been meaning to experience more of Ys. I can handle games from that time period, though. I am a classic gamer. But I will keep in mind what has been suggested and go from there. Thanks!
 
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Sara

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bede-x said:
Have played these on other formats previously, but will support them on Steam as well. I hope they are fully joypad compatible(none of those weird button positions from Felghana or requiring digital games to use the analog stick like is often the case).
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The weird button positions were just a case of odd defaults. Felghana and Origin have fully configurable controls. So does Chronicles+. And, just like those two games, you can use analog or D-pad, but analog does have 360-degree movement, despite the game's age. It's really up to personal preference. Just be sure to set the buttons yourself from the game's configuration. Definitely can't promise the defaults will be great, especially since it would differ from gamepad to gamepad.
 
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bishopcruz

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Aeana said:
Reah is a crapton better than "Lair," which I absolutely despise. I was SO happy to see Falcom FINALLY adopt Reah in the Japanese version of Ys Origin. Obviously Leah looks nicer, but Reah is a bit more unique.
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Biggest problem is with the pronunciation, in english Reah is pronounced Ree-ah pretty much all the time. I prefer Leia myself. But, Lair is fine.... I swear that's not my nostalgia talking. I swear it!

Damn you all to hell.

Well at least we don't have Dulk Fukt.

~ZIO~ said:
Well, I appreciate the advice. I been meaning to experience more of Ys. I can handle games from that time period, though. I am a classic gamer. But I will keep in mind what has been suggested and go form there. Thanks!
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I'm one of those wierdos that actually think Ys 1 and 2 have aged incredibly well, better than most ARPGs of the time. The gameplay is still fast and snappy, and the only really hellish dungeon is at the end of Ys 2 (I STILL get lost sometimes.) If you like retro games, then I don't see why you can't start with 1 and 2, my only issue with starting with Origin is it does spoil a bit of the story of the first games. Felghana is pretty safe in that regard though.
 
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Sara

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I'm told the preorder should be fixed now, preventing you from trying to install Ys I, and showing Ys II alongside. Can anyone confirm?

bishopcruz said:
If you like retro games, then I don't see why you can't start with 1 and 2, my only issue with starting with Origin is it does spoil a bit of the story of the first games. Felghana is pretty safe in that regard though.
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Some would argue that I & II first spoils Origin in the same kind of way, hahah. I don't personally think it's a big deal and I think people will get a bit extra out of I & II if they play Origin first, just like it would go the other way around. Depends on the person, though.
 
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bishopcruz

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Sara said:
I'm told the preorder should be fixed now, preventing you from trying to install Ys I, and showing Ys II alongside. Can anyone confirm?
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Yeah, I see is 1 and 2 as separate.



Some would argue that I & II first spoils Origin in the same kind of way, hahah. I don't personally think it's a big deal and I think people will get a bit extra out of I & II if they play Origin first, just like it would go the other way around. Depends on the person, though.
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I dunno, for me, as Ys 1 and 2 were the first ones released story wise, Origin was written with the expectation that most players had an idea of what happened. There was a mystery of WHAT Ys was and what caused the whole shebang to occur. It is a prequel, but it exists to flesh out the backstory of the world.
 
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Eusis

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Sara said:
I'm told the preorder should be fixed now, preventing you from trying to install Ys I, and showing Ys II alongside. Can anyone confirm?



Some would argue that I & II first spoils Origin in the same kind of way, hahah. I don't personally think it's a big deal and I think people will get a bit extra out of I & II if they play Origin first, just like it would go the other way around. Depends on the person, though.
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Ys I is "Ready to Play" (with absolutely nothing downloaded) and Ys II is greyed out. I'm guessing Ys I will just auto download when it goes up, then I'll have to initiate Ys II later.

As for the play order: while it seems Ys Origin before Ys I & II is fine, I think it'd be better to stick with the release order myself. As noted there IS a mystery to Ys that's slowly unfolded.
HoosTrax said:
*runs off to check something*

Yep all of the Half-Life screenshots have an ugly letterbox on the sides.
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Actually those seem to vary wildly. Man, I don't even want to know why that's the case (actually it's probably just a random selection of old press shots).
 
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HoosTrax

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Also, I was a little miffed by the fact that A defaulted to attack and B defaulted to jump in the previous two games, which is counterintuitive on 360 layout (I guess Nintendo style has the opposite layout on the controller). And so if I swapped those mappings, the menu "confirm"/"cancel" functions would end up counterintuitive.
 
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Eusis

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HoosTrax said:
Also, I was a little miffed by the fact that A defaulted to attack and B defaulted to jump in the previous two games, which is counterintuitive on 360 layout (I guess Nintendo style has the opposite layout on the controller). And so if I swapped those mappings, the menu "confirm"/"cancel" functions would end up counterintuitive.
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This is party of why I play with the PS3 controller for those. Nintendo/Xbox controllers gotta have their A for confirm and B for cancel, but the Playstation's X/O can go either way. And jump on X and attack on O SEEMS counterintuitive, but it actually works really well for easy Magic access.

Of course, for Ys I & II you just run into things with a magic button in II, so it doesn't really matter there.
 
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Het_Nkik

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Sara, I just wanted to thank you so much for the work you've been putting into these Steam releases of the Ys games. Right from Oath when you got the game running in widescreen and then even fixed the 2D elements like the sprites and UI to display correctly as well was beyond the call of duty. And you've just been keeping up at delivering the best possible versions of these games you can.

So I just wanted to let you know that I seriously appreciate it.
 
Glass Rebel

Glass Rebel

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So, we have Ys I, II, III (Oath) and Origin on Steam? Nice. I hope Seven and Napishtim come over as well, although I don't know how good the latter is.
 
Glass Rebel

Glass Rebel

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Teknoman said:
7 is PSP only, isnt it? I think Napishtim has a chance. Is Celceta 4 or 5?
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7 has a Chinese PC version, I don't know how involved Falcom was though. I guess it's off limits. Celceta is/replaces IV.

edit: Seven PC is garbage? Oh nevermind then :lol
 
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iavi

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Teknoman said:
7 is PSP only, isnt it? I think Napishtim has a chance. Is Celceta 4 or 5?
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There's a chinese port that's said to be garbage. I don't think we'll ever see it brought to steam, but I would absolutely love to be wrong.

edit: beaten!
 
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Aru

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duckroll said:
It's kinda fun to run into things.
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Yep. Ys II is still my favorite. Boss battles are very challenging and fun. The fact that the player only has a few items to heal himself makes the challenge better.
Ys I is good too but not as good as Ys II.
 
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Eusis

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Glass Rebel said:
So, we have Ys I, II, III (Oath) and Origin on Steam? Nice. I hope Seven and Napishtim come over as well, although I don't know how good the latter is.
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Seven would probably require a proper Falcom port, while Napishtim's a pretty good game, just a notch or two below Oath in Felghana. It's somewhat similar to comparing Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission: the former's a whole new game that's pretty good, but the latter's a remake that builds off of the design of the former rather than just prettying up the original, and is widely considered the better game that blows away its original incarnation.
 
Pyrrhus

Pyrrhus

Member
Excellent news all around (even if I still think that Harry Potter joke had no place in a remake of a game from 1987). You keep putting up Falcom PC games and I'll keep buying them, XSEED.
 
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Teknoman

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Man...some of you guys playing Ys 1 for the first time...wait till you hear the soundtrack.

And of course come up against the first boss :p
 
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Souther

Banned
It's too bad that the PC releases didn't feature any VA. That was part of the charm of the T-16 release.

Dark Fact's speech is amazing
 
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Syril

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I have the Turbo-CD version of these on the Wii, and the sheer amount of times I had to go do very particular things that were in no way hinted at got really annoying in Ys I, and getting lost in the mines for hours in Ys II made me give up entirely. Do these versions still have those issues? What exactly do they have over the Turbo-CD version besides presentation?
 
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Aeana

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Syril said:
I have the Turbo-CD version of these on the Wii, and the sheer amount of times I had to go do very particular things that were in no way hinted at got really annoying in Ys I, and getting lost in the mines for hours in Ys II made me give up entirely. Do these versions still have those issues? What exactly do they have over the Turbo-CD version besides presentation?
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Ys 1's peers are Dragon Quest 1 and Final Fantasy 1. When compared to those, it's a pretty impressive game, I think.
This version has much more fluid controls on top of the presentation improvements.
 
daninthemix

daninthemix

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Ys Origins and Oath in Felhana are in my backlog - and now these two. Which is the best Ys game to play, for the man who only has time for one?
 
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