illmatic22
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Yoshinori Kitase talks Final Fantasy VII Remake progress, battle system and more
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robertsan21
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this game should have been treated like a new FF game. All focus from square should have been on this game. The Biggest best team working on it
Make it into one single game no damn episodes. It would sell just as much as any other new FF game and then some.
Make it into one single game no damn episodes. It would sell just as much as any other new FF game and then some.
Call Me A Hero
Member
Since it's a SquareEnix title, I assume the last episode will be released on the next generation consoles too and more likely to see a complete edition.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It is though. That's what this is... it's a massive trilogy (or more) of full size FF games, each of which is essentially as big as a mainline entry.
When y'all are out here wondering if the final part will ever be released 10 years after part 2 I don't want to see any complaining.
This is what theyre telling us, at least.
A team working with the latest in home console technology for the last decade is a lot faster at console game development than a team transitioning from 3DS to PS4 with a hugely ambitious game. How embarassing!
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And this is why you buy a console when the game you want is actually released, not when it's announced. By the time FF VII R releases you'll be able to buy a standard PS4 for like 100 bucks and a PS4 Pro for 200 something.
I'm still holding out for KH3 before I get my PS4, if I were to buy a used PS4 for it right now I'd already pay under 200 bucks for the console.
I'm still holding out for KH3 before I get my PS4, if I were to buy a used PS4 for it right now I'd already pay under 200 bucks for the console.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The alternative is a single game that will take an insane amount of time, or will be compromised in a big way.
Splitting it up into multiple parts helps with the sanity of SE's long-ass development time. It doesn't add to it.
It's interesting how everyone put the "multiple episodes" math together in their heads differently. Some people look at it and think "they're blowing it up into much more game!" But I look at it and think "making that PS1 scenario in modern detail is way too much for a single game project..... they're going to tackle it in chunks because otherwise it'd be impossible to realize".
Earthpainting
Member
When this game got announced, I made a joke about which would get released first-- The first episode of this, Shenmue 3, or The Winds of Winter. Nearly two years later, we are no steps closer to figuring it out.
Sammo_1987
Member
I mean, one thing that struck me is if there's a delay of even 6 months to a year between episode releases what's to stop people overlevelling on part 1? I'll go on the assumption that later episodes might scale in difficulty..
TheMagician
Member
Will launch on PS5.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Maybe it's just a semantic thing, but I don't think it's appropriate to call FFVIIR episodic if it's going to be a year (or more?) in between installments like many seem to believe, especially if they end up charging full price for each episode. I don't think they've addressed pricing though.
lilojigsaw
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So if I get mega bored and grind lvls in the first episode, does that mean ill be basically overpowered for the next two? If so that's pretty unfortunate honestly. Guess I might have to curb my natural tendency to grind lvls
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I do think there's something wrong.
If they want to make games this ambitious, they should be Ubisofting it with teams around the world.
I know VIIR is being completed with help from CyberConnect2 but yeeesh....
Do you think it's wrong to call Star Wars episodic?
Telltale style "episodic gaming" is a johnny-come-lately use of the word. If it's broken up into pieces, it's episodic.
See also: Xenosaga. Ogre Battle. Games with episode numbers that are released years apart.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Sounds about right.
(to answer your question, FFX of course. Considering what SE's dev cycle has become, the fact that they got the very full and complete next-gen game FFX out near PS2 launch is amazing).
Sure.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
No way. That would be even worse than the current plans. Just make a trilogy with each part about spaced 2 years apart. If each release is around 35-40 hours long and has a solid cliffhanger to bridge to the next installment it could work.
No, Compilation of FFVII was a line of FFVII-related media (Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Before Crisis, Crisis Core).
They're saying they don't have any plans to do new spin-off games or movies. They're just focusing on the remake.
We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. Luckily I'm not a big ff7 fan and the original game is always there for people who want to see how the story ends if the wait between releases gets crazy.
brandonh83
Banned
Guys it doesn't matter when we actually get to play it. The important thing is that Sony got to announce it at their E3 conference two years ago for MAXIMUM HYPE.
KZXcellent
Member
It was REALLY exciting okay.
ForsakenLotus
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Calling something episodic has a certain connotation that implies a series of connected stories released on a regular schedule. So no, I don't consider Star Wars or Xenosaga episodic, at least not in that sense. The fact that Stars Wars has episode in the title is a superfluous detail, as it could just as easily be called Star Wars IV: A New Hope. It's an aesthetic.
The reason Telltale games, Life Is Strange, and other similar titles are episodic is because the individual installments have a structure that in itself isn't complete while also generally ending on a cliffhanger. Not only that, those developers try to have a fairly regular release schedule with a month or two in between episodes so people don't completely forget what happens.
Otherwise, should we consider every movie series episodic?
brandonh83
Banned
I was as hyped as anyone else. A few minutes later the probable reality set in, however.
I think with game development, where it can take so long to make a game, that they shouldn't treat it like movies where you have just a few months if that of principal photography. Games take years to make. This was announced already almost 2 years ago and it doesn't sound like they've made much progress. That's absolutely stupid.
Kingpin Rogers
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I still don't know why it has to be episodic. Ff7 isn't that big.
brandonh83
Banned
Remaking it in the way that most people want to see it remade? Uh, yeah, it's gonna be pretty big.
I don't have a problem with it being episodic if it allows them to reach higher ambitions-- just as long as it does turn out well.
Not necessarily. Don't make excuses for SE's poor development ethics. They're remaking a pre-existing property using a ready licensed engine and all they can show for it after months and months is one poster.
brandonh83
Banned
They do, though, especially large projects like this. I think taking a while to make a game is fine, but they don't have to announce them so early.
robertsan21
Member
Hmm is it really?
I have a feeling they will cut corners and cut things out due to lack of time and funds.
Is this game getting the same budget as final fantasy XV did? I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong but it just feels like that.
We should absolutely have seen more of the game by now. Games do take a while but they announced it almost two years ago and we saw a "gameplay" trailer a little over a year ago.
Now we get a poster.
They seem to announce a game when scribbles on a piece of toilet paper is what it seems like to me without any production started.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Really? It doesn't have that connotation for me.
Some episodes have regular schedules (i.e. telltale or in the midst of a TV season), but I don't think of it as a requirement of the term "episodic" at all.
For me, episodic merely connotes a single unified story told in parts.
These are titles that have the word "episode" in their title, and I understand that you're saying it's an aesthetic... but they are the poster child for using "episodes" in their respective mediums.
So if we're talking about "connotations"... Star Wars probably owns the worldwide connotation for the concept of episodes.
If they attempt to add up to a cohesive whole...... yes. Stuff like Harry Potter or Back to the Future movies or Game of Thrones books, certainly.
Series that really feel like separate stories even if in the same universe, i.e. Evil Dead or Mad Max... sure, they are not particularly episodic.
That's exactly the problem though. Why is it a large project? Does it have to be so large? If it is, how can they set up their production and marketing process to manage it? They already spent years on failures like these, with no clear direction, roadmap or even a vision of what they want to do.
brandonh83
Banned
I'm in complete agreement! It was simply announced too early. By too early I mean like almost 2 years too early.
A large project is a large project regardless of how its managed. It's going to be a large project because it's a modern remake of a game that has a very large scope. That being said, I think they're pretty awful at managing projects.
The Last One
Member
Remember when people were saying they were making the game in episodic form so we could get it faster?
brandonh83
Banned
Depends on the team headlining it. I'm honestly not sure there'll be too much time between FF7 remake and 16 at this rate.
Well, faster certainly doesn't = soon